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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 08:37 PM Mar 2021

Sanders vows to force vote on $15 minimum wage

Source: The Hill

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) says Democrats should “ignore” the recent ruling of the Senate parliamentarian and is vowing to force the Senate to vote this week on an amendment to set the federal minimum wage at $15 an hour.

Sanders on Monday declared he would not back down on his signature wage initiative after Senate parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough ruled last week that a provision setting the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour would not be eligible under special budget rules Democrats are using to avoid a filibuster while passing their coronavirus relief bill.

“My personal view is that the idea that we have a Senate staffer, a high-ranking staffer, deciding whether 30 million Americans get a pay raise or not is non-sensical. We have got to make that decision, not a staffer who’s unelected, so my own view is that we should ignore the rulings, the decision of the parliamentarian,” Sanders told reporters.

Sanders added, “given the enormous crises facing this country and the desperation of working families, we have got to as soon as possible end the filibuster.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/541114-sanders-to-force-vote-on-15-minimum-wage-urges-democrats-to-ignore

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Sanders vows to force vote on $15 minimum wage (Original Post) George II Mar 2021 OP
I want to see Bernie win on this one. There is no other way. SoFlaBro Mar 2021 #1
Kick ass Bernie... Maxheader Mar 2021 #2
Bernie still... JoeOtterbein Mar 2021 #3
Where will he find the 50 votes to do it? comradebillyboy Mar 2021 #4
He never had them.But..blame the process, the Parlimentarian, & the VP when, He Never Had The Votes Budi Mar 2021 #6
He can always rely on the relationships he's developed with other Senators over the years, right? George II Mar 2021 #8
... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #11
Joe can do the same even better... JoeOtterbein Mar 2021 #19
President Biden hasn't been a Senator since January 2017. A number of Senators today.... George II Mar 2021 #20
Please don't tell us that you think Joe... JoeOtterbein Mar 2021 #21
will bernie introduce a 15/hr bill any day now nt msongs Mar 2021 #5
Done nt JoeOtterbein Mar 2021 #22
Would have thought he could at least convinced Vermont to raise theirs to $15 MichMan Mar 2021 #7
The Senators don't control policy of their home state. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #9
No they don't, but if they can't convince their own state, how will they convince the entire Senate? MichMan Mar 2021 #18
That's not how it works. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2021 #32
He gets involved in many state issues in other states JI7 Mar 2021 #33
+1 betsuni Mar 2021 #35
Bargain it up to $11, $12 or more. He's right. Make the 'NO' votes go on record. mpcamb Mar 2021 #10
Do the hard work getting a stand alone bill passed. lapucelle Mar 2021 #12
This will backfire and the Democratic party will get the blame. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #13
If they don't pass a 15 dollar an hour raise who do you think will get the blame? rpannier Mar 2021 #24
There's much more happening in the bill than a rise in minimum wage... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #34
If Bernie wants to do this, he needs to address the precedent it sets. LudwigPastorius Mar 2021 #14
I guess he could work toward firing the Parliamentarian and get a different one rpannier Mar 2021 #23
Classic Bernie Giving Republicans a Free Pass TomCADem Mar 2021 #15
Warren is onboard with pushing it through GentleAlien Mar 2021 #36
This might sound like a radical idea, Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #16
Great idea. Remember, all 48 DEMOCRATIC Senators and 1 Independent Senator agree with.... George II Mar 2021 #17
We don't have the votes. Manchin and Sinema are a firm no on the $15 minimum wage. SunSeeker Mar 2021 #25
But how much would it slow it down? A day maybe? n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #26
Even a day's delay could be disasterous, depending on the date. SunSeeker Mar 2021 #27
Why will it take more than a week for a strict party line vote on a bill pnwmom Mar 2021 #28
Well, it took 5 weeks to get the bill out of the House on a party line vote. SunSeeker Mar 2021 #29
I agree with him Our elected officials should make these decisions. Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #30
Dear Bernie, Stop it. cstanleytech Mar 2021 #31
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. He never had them.But..blame the process, the Parlimentarian, & the VP when, He Never Had The Votes
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 08:59 PM
Mar 2021

Has he ever just introduced legislation for the $15 mw, over all the years he's been talking about how badly we need it?

Just asking...

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. President Biden hasn't been a Senator since January 2017. A number of Senators today....
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 12:20 AM
Mar 2021

....weren't even in the Senate back then.

MichMan

(11,910 posts)
7. Would have thought he could at least convinced Vermont to raise theirs to $15
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:04 PM
Mar 2021

Currently raised to $11.75 just this year

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
9. The Senators don't control policy of their home state.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:23 PM
Mar 2021

I live in NM with two Dem Senators who support $15/hr. NM’s wage is $9/hr. They can’t do anything about that.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
12. Do the hard work getting a stand alone bill passed.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:35 PM
Mar 2021

The parliamentarian didn't decide "whether or not Americans will get a pay raise"; she ruled that the increase to $15 per hour did not meet a strict set of guidelines needed to move forward in the Senate's reconciliation process.

Characterizing her ruling otherwise is disingenuous at best.


NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. This will backfire and the Democratic party will get the blame.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:35 PM
Mar 2021

I do not believe that this is a good idea. This will torpedo the entire bill.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
24. If they don't pass a 15 dollar an hour raise who do you think will get the blame?
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 12:49 AM
Mar 2021

If you don't fight for these things (especially popular things) why should someone vote for you?
Because the other side is worse?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
34. There's much more happening in the bill than a rise in minimum wage...
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 07:13 AM
Mar 2021

... I do not believe it's worth scuttling the entire bill.

If you don't fight for these things (especially popular things) why should someone vote for you?
Because the other side is worse?
Lord. The fighting has been done. We simply don't have the numbers. We lost this battle. We should try again another day.

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
14. If Bernie wants to do this, he needs to address the precedent it sets.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:50 PM
Mar 2021

...and why, ignoring the rules that the Senate itself sets up, won't come back to bite us in the ass if, and when, Democrats no longer control that chamber.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
23. I guess he could work toward firing the Parliamentarian and get a different one
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 12:47 AM
Mar 2021

Like what Majority Leader Trent Lott did
The senate somehow survived that
What he's doing now will make little change in the long run

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/05/08/key-senate-official-loses-job-in-dispute-with-gop/e2310021-0f14-4667-a261-54e6c033207c/

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
15. Classic Bernie Giving Republicans a Free Pass
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:09 PM
Mar 2021

Democratic senators overwhelmingly support a $15/hour wage. Republicans oppose it, yet Bernie blames generally Democrats. Amazing.

This is classic Bernie trying to elevate himself by targeting his allies.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
16. This might sound like a radical idea,
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:30 PM
Mar 2021

but how about we let the fucking President of The United States make a decision and go along with it. Maybe just this once to see how it goes rather than turn this into a divisive shit show on the world stage.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. Great idea. Remember, all 48 DEMOCRATIC Senators and 1 Independent Senator agree with....
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 11:33 PM
Mar 2021

....the President.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
25. We don't have the votes. Manchin and Sinema are a firm no on the $15 minimum wage.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 01:07 AM
Mar 2021

All this will do is slow down the covid relief bill.

Harry Reid's former advisor said on Lawrence O'Donnell that the best (and probably only) way to get it done is include it in a must pass bill like a defense authorization bill that Republicans want to pass (that's how the last minimum wage increase was done).

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
27. Even a day's delay could be disasterous, depending on the date.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:00 AM
Mar 2021

Unless Senate acts swiftly, 11.4 million workers will lose their unemployment benefits starting March 14, with disastrous results for desperate families and the American economy. 

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
28. Why will it take more than a week for a strict party line vote on a bill
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:32 AM
Mar 2021

that will be passed as is, except for that omission?

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
31. Dear Bernie, Stop it.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 05:57 AM
Mar 2021

The proposal of 15 an hour is shit and will remain shit as it will always fall behind because to many in the House and Senate are corrupted as they are being bought and paid for by the corporations to block it when it needed to be adjusted.
What we need is real change to the entire system of setting it and the way imo opinion to do that is to set it at 200% above what the federal poverty level is as I outlined here https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15175217

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