House passes expansive police reform bill named in honor of George Floyd
Source: Washington Post
The House on Wednesday passed the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, an expansive police reform measure named for the 46-year-old Black man who died last Memorial Day after a Minneapolis police officer pressed his knee against his neck for more than eight minutes.The bill passed 220-212 along mostly party lines with two Democrats voting against it and one Republican voting for it.
Floyds death triggered a national outcry for a systemic transformation of law enforcement, but the push for policing changes couldnt overcome partisan and election-year gridlock in Congress and the legislative efforts failed last year. Democrats were determined to try again, as they control the White House, Senate and House. The measure that passed the House last summer on a 236-to-181 vote was reintroduced last month by Reps. Karen Bass (D-Calif.) and Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.).
A profession where you have the power to kill should be a profession that requires highly-trained officers who are accountable to the public, Bass said during the House floor debate.The legislation would ban chokeholds, end racial and religious profiling, establish a national database to track police misconduct and prohibit certain no-knock warrants. It also contains several provisions that would make it easier to hold officers accountable for misconduct in civil and criminal court.
One proposal long sought by civil rights advocates would change qualified immunity, the legal doctrine that shields officers from lawsuits, by lowering the bar for plaintiffs to sue officers for alleged civil rights violations.President Biden praised the bill on Wednesday in a virtual call with House Democrats. The White House said Monday that it supports the legislation and that the president looks forward to working with the Congress to enact a landmark policing reform law.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-floyd-police-reform-bill-vote/2021/03/03/5ea9ba3a-7c6c-11eb-85cd-9b7fa90c8873_story.html
Good.
Have to see which 2 Democrats voted against it.
msongs
(67,405 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)and that will be an issue for every other piece of legislation like this coming from the House that is not a Reconciliation bill unless there are enough swing GOP Senators who feel that black lives DO matter, which is a dubious matter at best (although I did see where Cory Booker was apparently working with Tim Scott on "something" ).
CousinIT
(9,241 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)with ALL of the rest of the Democrats plus bring in VP. Harris to break the tie to make it 51.
I.e., a Rules change to remove the filibuster for either certain pieces of legislation or for all of it, requires a simple majority (51 votes).
CousinIT
(9,241 posts)He is the leader. These goddamned DINOs are holding their filibuster blankie while our Democracy DIES.
This is not a principled stance. It's asinine and anti-Democratic.
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)with some serious pork for WV & AZ like they did in the old days for Byrd and for people like Murtha (in the House).
Otherwise we may end up having a party-switcher and that will mean that Turtle will take the Senate back over and nothing that comes from the House will be allowed to come to the floor anymore (like what happened the previous 6 years).
CousinIT
(9,241 posts)People voted for them expecting BIG BOLD action on many fronts. If they aren't bold or strong enough to get it done, they'll lose congress. In fact I think Democrats will have no power in congress again for at least a decade if they don't protect Democracy NOW.
They better get a clue and get their priorities in order.
They can clutch their filibuster blankie later. Right now, Democracy is slipping away while they clutch their precious. They need to let it go.
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)The problem is that we managed to NOT get people like Susan Collins out nor Thom Tillis (as well as a few harder ones), although people crawled over glass to get Kelley, Warnock, and Ossoff in to give Democrats the majority in the Senate for the first time since 2014. But it is a BARE majority only because we won the Presidency and thus the VP forms the "51st vote" to give us the chairs of the committees and the ability to control the schedule and floor action.
When one is "wealthy" but certainly NOT humble like Manchin (versus his predecessor John D. Rockefeller IV), then they have lost touch with "the people". And that is in contrast to Rockefeller, who managed to get the pulse of his adopted state, "becoming" a West Virginian, and advocating for them, despite his storied family.
I think this is why Biden had Harris go in and talk to the current governor of WV (and I expect Biden may do some of that himself). What is probably going to need to happen is that the state (like their governor) needs to put the pressure on Manchin and Biden, having been a centrist himself, probably knows how to "talk" centrist-speak to hopefully turn their ships around.
speak easy
(9,245 posts)Yes.
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)Democrats, Reps. Jared Golden of Maine and Ron Kind of Wisconsin
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)I have been refreshing the House Clerk roll call page and they haven't updated yet (am guessing they want to do the final update of this bill and H.R. 1 - the voter one).
CNN updated their article that has this -
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/03/politics/house-vote-george-floyd-policing-bill/index.html
And FFS - the one GOPer voting for it claiming he "voted for it by accident" is just ludicrous.
Rhiannon12866
(205,309 posts)Martin68
(22,794 posts)mopinko
(70,090 posts)i had some serious hassles w the cops last year. not only wrongfully arrested, based on signed statements the cops KNEW were false, but also not protected from some evil fuckers on my block.
seemed like an open and shut thing, but one of the top lawyers here is an old friend, said- nope. they got immunity for shit like that.
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)and in order to do that, they need to also essentially neuter/reformulate the so-called "Police unions" (that have various names like "Fraternal Order of Police" or "Police Benevolent Association", etc.). They are not so much unions (for bargaining purposes, although they do fulfill that function as part of their existence), but they have become "get out of jail free cards".
Millions upon millions of dollars have been wasted and squandered from city budgets and used for civil settlements due to police misconduct that was allowed to stand because of those organizations. That money could have gone towards building new schools and/or maintenance of existing ones and/or for urban infrastructure improvements and/or for local tax relief.
mopinko
(70,090 posts)head is an out and out nazi.
yup. scam city. they are nothing but a protection racket.
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)Lodge 5 headed up by John McNesby is a fucking nightmare and their national org endorsed 45 both elections (where Lodge 5 accepted that) - and it got to the point where the black officers (who have their own union - the Guardian Civic League - due to the racism in the FOP) protested the endorsements along with black firefighters.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)No shortage of corruption and back washing there.
To protect and serve OURSELVES is what really happens.
Serve the rich, abuse the poor and minorities, do a half-assed job for everyone else.
I had a Camaro stolen several years ago. The response was a phone call for the report. No visit, just a call. I had just moved. Told them to put my new address on the report. After calling for a year and getting, "If it was recovered, you'd have been notified" I said to a rather pleasant officer, "I know but humor me and please check."
Car was recovered 10 days after it was stolen. Letter was sent to the OLD ADDRESS. Sent to a scrap yard after 30 days.
What did I get? "I'm really sorry."
I'm glad I didn't get fined for failing to change my address.
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)for storage before they scrapped it.... but then maybe that was sent to your old address.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)I did get eventually get friendly note from PA DMV about having the registration suspended for an unpaid parking ticket the thieves had apparently racked up. You'd think there would be a system to check violations against stolen cars.
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)and the PA DMV is a bit "muddled".
But then the PPA did have its own reality show!
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)back when cars had "real" trunks. Then they shrunk the sizes of the sedans and coupes.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)Brings to mind my favorite car, my '66 Caprice 396.
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)I used to like the Caprice when I was a kid. They were elegant gigantic cars.
But then I grew up riding around in the back of various station wagons (a '64 Ford Country Squire and a '68 Ford Country Squire LTD).
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)The 396 badge on the fender.
The interior is different. The clock in this pic is in the dash. Mine was mounted on top of the dash. The tach was where the clock is shown. Mine also had an M-20 4 speed which was really rare for a wagon.
I see in pic #2 this person has opted for the same hi-performance ignition coil that I had.
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)It (the Country Squire) had the wood panel stuff on the side.
And my mother's sister ended up buying the same model.
Then we later got the "green one" (a dream at the drive-in - rear seat down and me and my sisters sprawled out)....
The first time I had a car with real FM radio was my own 1989 Chevy Corsica. I didn't know how to act.
speak easy
(9,245 posts)Last of the Breed: 1977 Ford Country Squire Wagon
The Country Squire was the top of the line wagon, and as such it always included woodgrain on its body panels. 1977 would be the next-to-last year before Ford downsized its cars, following the lead of the other domestic manufacturers. Engine options included a 400ci or a 460ci V8, both of which were less impressive than their cubic-inch displacements make them sound, as they were both heavily tuned towards fuel economy and emissions-compliance.
https://barnfinds.com/wood-on-green-on-green-1977-ford-country-squire-wagon/
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)I expect they were garaged and maybe had new engines put in.
And since people scratch their heads about why the SUVs have been popular (as an alternative to the much-hated minivan), it's that need to haul people and STUFF (to the point that they eventually developed the "4 door pickup" to do the same - people + stuff). Calls to mind the old George Carlin routine.
The downside to the Fords (and Lincolns and Mercury) through the '70s, was that damn carburetor. I remember every spring and fall, start car, drive up the street a bit, stop to make a turn, step on pedal to start moving, ANNNDDDDD... stall...
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