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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 01:17 PM Mar 2021

Abbott defends scrapping mask mandate: It 'isn't going to make that big of a change'

Source: The Hill

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) on Thursday defended his decision to eliminate a statewide mask mandate amid an avalanche of criticism over the decision.

Abbott said in an interview with Fox News that officials in Austin are still advocating that Texans wear face coverings and that the state's residents are more aware now of how to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

“We are still strongly advocating that every Texan follow the best practice. Where we are today is completely different from where we were this time last year when Texans and Americans didn’t know how to deal with this. For an entire year, Texans have learned the best practice, and that is to wear a mask, and we still strongly recommend that people do wear a mask,” he said.

“The mask requirement being eliminated isn’t going to make that big of a change in the state of Texas. Also, people in Texas will continue to wear a mask even though there’s not a state mandate. We’re just in a situation now where government mandates are not needed because Texans do know best practices,” he added.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/541615-abbott-defends-scrapping-mask-mandate-it-isnt-going-to-make-that-big-of

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Abbott defends scrapping mask mandate: It 'isn't going to make that big of a change' (Original Post) sabra Mar 2021 OP
Boy somebody is trying to put the toothpaste back into the tube. Botany Mar 2021 #1
Will he put his job on the line for that bet? If numbers of sick and dead rise will he resign? bullimiami Mar 2021 #2
Abbott wasn't smart enough to predict the shitshow his actions would cause. Paladin Mar 2021 #3
THIS. Totally this! n/t MFGsunny Mar 2021 #17
New covid cases in Texas have already gone from falling to an increase of 31% Bengus81 Mar 2021 #19
Too soon to see a response to lifting the mask mandate. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #28
The mask mandate is still in effect forthemiddle Mar 2021 #40
And evidently people have been ignoring the mandate for weeks. Now up 51% Bengus81 Mar 2021 #42
Just a few more people dying while gasping for air Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 #4
Yeah. Poor people dying alone and in pain Jakes Progress Mar 2021 #22
A crime boss dumping nuclear waste says it won't do that much damage to people. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #5
Must have a degree in,,, Cryptoad Mar 2021 #6
The ONLY Difference is the Political Grandstanding --er -- sitting in the case of Abbott Stallion Mar 2021 #7
How does that "logic" work. Answer: it's pure lunacy. Midnightwalk Mar 2021 #8
Abbott needed to take the attention off his miserable job on the energy failure. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #9
I talked to a friend. One in the panhandle and one in Austin. The one in Austin said about 80% LizBeth Mar 2021 #10
Now that they know best practice for themselves and others, we're just freeing them to ignore it! nt Akoto Mar 2021 #11
Abbott: "It 'isn't going to make that big of a change'" area51 Mar 2021 #12
funny, his wife is of Mexican descent (from wikipedia) IcyPeas Mar 2021 #16
"They'll be so damn glad to get rid of them masks they'll forget about freezing nearly to death" Warpy Mar 2021 #13
Abbott has nothing but contempt for public health officials. He'll cook the numbers. dalton99a Mar 2021 #14
He's giving himself an "out" by saying Texans will continue to wear masks. C Moon Mar 2021 #15
we will likely see a reduction in mask wearing here in Tarrant County yellowdogintexas Mar 2021 #29
That would happen anywhere. He's an idiot if he thinks citizens will continue mask-wearing. C Moon Mar 2021 #33
On top of the non-masking, I think there will be more violence toward those wearing masks. C Moon Mar 2021 #34
If it's not going to make that big of a change rustysgurl Mar 2021 #18
If the state is declared to be 100% open for business, are employees who refuse to return LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2021 #20
What abbot means by not that big a change. Jakes Progress Mar 2021 #21
"government mandates are not needed"... except BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #23
it will two weeks after march 10th when cases spike again Javaman Mar 2021 #24
right around spring break. yellowdogintexas Mar 2021 #30
Nah, that's not Neanderthal thinking William Seger Mar 2021 #25
He's a fool. Remove him TX after the numbers soar. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #26
Can Texans recall a governor? IzzaNuDay Mar 2021 #27
no we can't. Not that many states have recall yellowdogintexas Mar 2021 #31
c'mon Joe... myohmy2 Mar 2021 #32
Try this analogy ... DVDGuy Mar 2021 #35
Texas Mendocino Mar 2021 #36
Fucking D-bag jpak Mar 2021 #37
I hope Texans have made their wills. tonekat Mar 2021 #38
Proving yet again that Republicans are experts at talking out of their asses. littlemissmartypants Mar 2021 #39
Well, we'll just watch the graph that charts the progress of the disease. Vinca Mar 2021 #41
Stay safe and "meek", DU Texans. roamer65 Mar 2021 #43

bullimiami

(13,108 posts)
2. Will he put his job on the line for that bet? If numbers of sick and dead rise will he resign?
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 01:21 PM
Mar 2021

Thought not.

Paladin

(28,280 posts)
3. Abbott wasn't smart enough to predict the shitshow his actions would cause.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 01:23 PM
Mar 2021

Even in Texas, the response to his idiotic moves has been overwhelmingly negative. Serves Abbott right.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
19. New covid cases in Texas have already gone from falling to an increase of 31%
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 04:55 PM
Mar 2021

And that asshat has barely started with his covid death march. Bet tourism really flourishes down thar.......

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
28. Too soon to see a response to lifting the mask mandate.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 11:30 PM
Mar 2021

And there is too much volatility to see any clear trend over the past couple of weeks. I see the standard weekly volaitlity (weekend considerably lower than weekday).

I am not defending the assinine lifting of the mask mandate - just the implication that since the lifting of the mask mandate 2 days ago cases have jumped 31%.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
42. And evidently people have been ignoring the mandate for weeks. Now up 51%
Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:15 PM
Mar 2021

Up that much just over the last 2-3 weeks. But wait until Wed when everything reopens and NO mandates on mask unless the biz requires them.

Covid will explode again in Texas and new variants to boot. Yeeee hawww!!

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
8. How does that "logic" work. Answer: it's pure lunacy.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 01:55 PM
Mar 2021

Masks help and most people use masks so it probably doesn’t hurt too much to get rid of the mandate?

The only reason to get rid of the mandate is to encourage people to not wear masks. The timing tells me that spring break tourists are one of the prime target groups. Texan tourists but also tourists from other states.

It would be bad enough if only Texas was impacted. The super spread spring break events are going to impact the rest of the country.

Doing this now when when the vaccinated rate is still too low and while new strains are growing is pure lunacy.

Lonestarblue

(10,117 posts)
9. Abbott needed to take the attention off his miserable job on the energy failure.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:08 PM
Mar 2021

Even many businesses do not support this move because it forces them to police mask wearing. Or just to give it up. The two grocery stores I go to most will no longer require masks, in spite of the fact that only about 10% of people have been vaccinated and the risk of infection is still vey high. I will be shopping at other stores until the virus is under better control.

Deaths have declined to around 60 per day, so Abbott is saying that he is fine with 60 people dying every day so that the bars and gyms and restaurants can be crowded once again. He is just disgusting.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
10. I talked to a friend. One in the panhandle and one in Austin. The one in Austin said about 80%
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:11 PM
Mar 2021

wearing mask. In panhandle 65-70%. Without the mandate it takes away the legs for businesses to insist and I see the numbers dropping significantly.

In my area in Oregon for the last 6 months I have seen literally 100% wear masks and at least 98% with it over their nose. Big difference.

Totally unscientific or fact based.

Akoto

(4,267 posts)
11. Now that they know best practice for themselves and others, we're just freeing them to ignore it! nt
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:57 PM
Mar 2021

area51

(11,931 posts)
12. Abbott: "It 'isn't going to make that big of a change'"
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 03:04 PM
Mar 2021

Pretty sure he's going to be proven wrong, not that he cares. He already has his "alibi" lined up, as he's said immigrants are bringing Covid-19.

IcyPeas

(21,921 posts)
16. funny, his wife is of Mexican descent (from wikipedia)
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 03:50 PM
Mar 2021
Personal life

Abbott, a Roman Catholic, is married to Cecilia Phalen Abbott, the granddaughter of Mexican immigrants.[184][185][186] His election as governor of Texas makes her the first Latina to be the first lady of Texas since Texas joined the union.[185][187] They have one adopted daughter, Audrey.

Warpy

(111,392 posts)
13. "They'll be so damn glad to get rid of them masks they'll forget about freezing nearly to death"
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 03:24 PM
Mar 2021

Yeah, crystal clear, you sick bastard.

C Moon

(12,223 posts)
15. He's giving himself an "out" by saying Texans will continue to wear masks.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 03:48 PM
Mar 2021

If the numbers go through the roof, he'll back track and say, "I guess they didn't know."
He needs to be run out of that office. He doesn't care about Texans.
He only cares about the GOP.

yellowdogintexas

(22,280 posts)
29. we will likely see a reduction in mask wearing here in Tarrant County
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 12:10 AM
Mar 2021

there was already resistance to wearing them in certain groups

C Moon

(12,223 posts)
33. That would happen anywhere. He's an idiot if he thinks citizens will continue mask-wearing.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 01:51 AM
Mar 2021

yellowdog: I wish you the best. I hope the virus doesn't grow from his irresponsible decision.

C Moon

(12,223 posts)
34. On top of the non-masking, I think there will be more violence toward those wearing masks.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 01:53 AM
Mar 2021

It was a 100% political move, that I hope buries his political career.

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
18. If it's not going to make that big of a change
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 04:03 PM
Mar 2021

why do it? Why the big announcement? You made a Federal case out of it -- own it.

20. If the state is declared to be 100% open for business, are employees who refuse to return
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 05:30 PM
Mar 2021

until the recommended level of vaccinations is achieve still eligible for unemployment? I doubt it, because they are not working by choice, and not because of businesses being closed of necessity.

There's always an angle.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
21. What abbot means by not that big a change.
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 05:32 PM
Mar 2021

He means that it's not like his parents or children will die. He and his all got their vaccines.

Plus, most of those that do get sick and or die will be poor and not white.

Plus, the yahoos that are stupid enough to vote for the governor that cut off their water and shut off their electricity during a winter emergency are stupid enough to think this is a good idea. He knows that it's not like smart people are going to vote for him.

BumRushDaShow

(129,715 posts)
23. "government mandates are not needed"... except
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 05:48 PM
Mar 2021

if you are a minority trying to vote and then suddenly "government mandates", along with multiple lawsuits against OTHER states for how those states handle voters and voting, are suddenly "justified".

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
24. it will two weeks after march 10th when cases spike again
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 05:53 PM
Mar 2021

he's still a fucking sociopathic asshole.

yellowdogintexas

(22,280 posts)
30. right around spring break.
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 12:13 AM
Mar 2021

increase will continue through April at least

There is a strong likelihood of a "Texas Variant" in a few months

IzzaNuDay

(363 posts)
27. Can Texans recall a governor?
Thu Mar 4, 2021, 10:44 PM
Mar 2021

I think they might strongly consider it! This one is clearly trying to kill the citizens off!

yellowdogintexas

(22,280 posts)
31. no we can't. Not that many states have recall
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 12:14 AM
Mar 2021

We hear the most about California because the citizens don't hesitate to start one.

I am not sure which other states have it, but we do not. Not that we would be able to make much use of it in this heavily Republican state

myohmy2

(3,182 posts)
32. c'mon Joe...
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 12:31 AM
Mar 2021

...stop sending precious COVID vaccine to states that don't give a fuck...

...let the assholes wait until we're vaccinated...

...it's only fair...

DVDGuy

(53 posts)
35. Try this analogy ...
Fri Mar 5, 2021, 02:36 AM
Mar 2021

“We are still strongly advocating that every Texan follow the best practice. Where we are today is completely different from where we were a hundred years ago when Texans and Americans didn’t know how to deal with this. For an entire century, Texans have learned the best practice, and that is to observe traffic lights, and we still strongly recommend that people do observe traffic lights,” he said.

“The traffic lights rule being eliminated isn’t going to make that big of a change in the state of Texas. Also, people in Texas will continue to follow traffic lights even though there’s not a state mandate. We’re just in a situation now where government mandates are not needed because Texans do know best practices,” he added.

tonekat

(1,828 posts)
38. I hope Texans have made their wills.
Sat Mar 6, 2021, 12:10 AM
Mar 2021

Don't know what the laws are in TX, but probate is to be avoided under most circumstances.

Vinca

(50,319 posts)
41. Well, we'll just watch the graph that charts the progress of the disease.
Sat Mar 6, 2021, 08:35 AM
Mar 2021

I'm betting Texas and the other states with stupid leaders will spike when it comes to hospitalizations and deaths.

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