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TomCADem

(17,834 posts)
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 12:47 AM Mar 2021

Leaders of Newsom recall effort say they have enough signatures

Source: The Hill

Leaders of effort to recall California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Sunday that they have collected enough signatures to spark a special election this year. At a press conference, organizers announced that the effort has gathered 1.95 million signatures in support of the recall more than a week ahead of the March 17 deadline. The recall movement leaders said they still plan to try to reach 2 million before that date.

The recall movement gained traction as criticism has mounted against Newsom for his response to the coronavirus pandemic, particularly the restrictions against gatherings and on certain businesses.

Newsom won the 2018 gubernatorial race with 62 percent support in the state where Democrats have supermajorities in both chambers of the state legislature.

A poll from the University of California-Berkeley’s Institute of Governmental Studies in January determined that 36 percent of respondents said they would vote against Newsom in a special election. Forty-five percent indicated they would stand by the governor if a recall election took place.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/542042-leaders-of-newsom-recall-effort-say-they-have-enough-signatures



California's positivity rate is less then 3 percent and large majority of Californian support a mask mandate. Yet, thanks to rich right wing donors, it looks like Republicans will once again be able to get a recall election by pushing the idea of rolling back mask mandates.

While 2 million signatures seems like a lot, California is a huge state and if you can't finance a petition effort, then it is pretty easy to put anything on the ballot. For example, while Biden easily beat Trump 65 to 35 percent, over 8 million people in California voted for Trump. Thus, you only need about 1 in 4 of these folks to sign a petition.

The thing about a recall in 2021, less then year before a general election, is that Republican do what they do best, run in a low turnout special election where most of the people who even bother to vote are inclined to vote fore the recall. This is why in California, Republicans routinely threaten recalls that are financed by rich Republicans.

So, even though a large majority of Californians support mask mandates, Republicans can successfully gather signatures from people who want to immediately repeal the mask mandate and reopen irrespective of the risk. Thus, Republicans once again turn democracy on its head by trying to shrink the pool of voters by paying an expensive low turnout special election.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/05/gavin-newsom-recall-donors-466069

Big Trump donors converge on Newsom recall

Big Republican donors — including some prominent backers of former President Donald Trump — are zeroing in on a new target as they dig out from the wreckage of the 2020 election: California Gov. Gavin Newsom.

Major GOP benefactors are funneling cash into the effort to recall the first-term Democratic governor, who’s come under fire for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and his oversight of the state’s battered economy.

The two groups leading the recall push say they have raised a combined $3.2 million and expect to surpass $3.5 million by this weekend. Most of the cash has flowed in since photos emerged of a mask-less Newsom attending a crowded birthday party at an exclusive Napa Valley restaurant in mid-November. He has since apologized, but Newsom has suffered severe backlash, with some accusing him of failing to abide by the stringent coronavirus protocols he himself set forth.


Some of the biggest donors to the recall effort also bankrolled Trump’s 2020 campaign. They include Beverly Hills real estate developer Geoff Palmer, who has shelled out $150,000 to the anti-Newsom campaign, and Silicon Valley venture capitalist Douglas Leone who, with his wife Patricia Perkins-Leone, have given nearly $100,000. Retired construction equipment executive Howard Groff and his wife Susan Groff have doled out $75,000.




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Leaders of Newsom recall effort say they have enough signatures (Original Post) TomCADem Mar 2021 OP
Such bullshit liberalmediaaddict Mar 2021 #1
This is 100% a partisan power grab. Initech Mar 2021 #4
They're using Covid as an excuse liberalmediaaddict Mar 2021 #6
Yeah exactly it's a classic bait and switch tactic. Initech Mar 2021 #7
Oh fuck these assholes. Initech Mar 2021 #2
How much $$$ is this BS going to cost CA residents? BigmanPigman Mar 2021 #3
Exactly what I was thinking... dhill926 Mar 2021 #5
They're whining about California economy xxqqqzme Mar 2021 #14
I recall that period all too well. BigmanPigman Mar 2021 #32
As a native Angelena, good luck We haven't forgotten the last time around they pulled this bullshit The_REAL_Ecumenist Mar 2021 #8
It's no coincidence that Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #9
They tried to impeach Kentucky's Gov Beshear liberalmediaaddict Mar 2021 #10
This Bayard Mar 2021 #28
They "may" have enough signatures, but they'll never get enough votes kysrsoze Mar 2021 #11
In 8 weeks CA will have so many people vaccinated more things will be open and different. winstars Mar 2021 #12
This is really about tarnishing Newsom's chances of a senate/presidential run Auggie Mar 2021 #13
Schwarzenegger was peculiarly popular, don't bet against Newsom Cicada Mar 2021 #15
This is how they put Swartznagger in office. Should not be allowed. patricia92243 Mar 2021 #16
It Goes Even Deeper.... DAngelo136 Mar 2021 #17
They want to infect California with the Trump virus bronxiteforever Mar 2021 #18
around the country....worthless ingrats Maxheader Mar 2021 #19
Irascible malcontents. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #20
I don't support the recall. EndlessWire Mar 2021 #21
A waste of money and sure to be a circus like the last recall BradAllison Mar 2021 #22
I think they should recall the rights of recallers to behave like Californians bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #23
Only That one CA Congressional District gets to vote on recall SmartVoter22 Mar 2021 #24
A pathetic waste of time and money. BlueStater Mar 2021 #25
a GOP of racists llashram Mar 2021 #26
"far worse?" The present Governor Newsom is doing a great job. C Moon Mar 2021 #30
that's all I was saying llashram Mar 2021 #33
The corporate Right is out to topple coastal Democratic states by any means necessary. ancianita Mar 2021 #27
I could be wrong, but I don't think they would have gotten this many signatures, OneCrazyDiamond Mar 2021 #29
Bring it on ReTrumplicans so you can get your asses handed to you.....again. oasis Mar 2021 #31

liberalmediaaddict

(998 posts)
1. Such bullshit
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:04 AM
Mar 2021

So sick of these Republican oligarchs funding endless lawsuits and lobbying for more voter suppression. The GOP can't win elections legitimatelt anymore but the billionaires still find ways to block Democrats from staying in power.

Initech

(107,212 posts)
4. This is 100% a partisan power grab.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:07 AM
Mar 2021

It has nothing to do with COVID. That's a bait and switch argument. If we got a right wing Trump supporting asshole like Faulconer in, things would absolutely go to shit here. And the people supporting the recall are the worst possible people you can imagine.

liberalmediaaddict

(998 posts)
6. They're using Covid as an excuse
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:14 AM
Mar 2021

To justify impeaching Democratic Governors across the country and enact more voter suppression laws.
They're getting away with it because of their brainwashed constituents who see mask mandates as a form of tyranny.

Initech

(107,212 posts)
7. Yeah exactly it's a classic bait and switch tactic.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:27 AM
Mar 2021

They use COVID as the excuse because it grabs headlines, but their real intentions are far more sinister.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
14. They're whining about California economy
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 04:43 AM
Mar 2021

but the rethugs won't hesitate to mount a recall when the next election for governor and statewide offices is 2022!
The last time the rethugs pulled this crap it took Gov Jerry Brown 8 years to correct the mess schwarzenegger left. The brilliant rethug idea of electing a tool with no civic experience

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(928 posts)
8. As a native Angelena, good luck We haven't forgotten the last time around they pulled this bullshit
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:31 AM
Mar 2021

with AH-nold Schwarzenegger & f*cked up that turned out to be. trump is HATED here,(to put it mildly) & just because some idiots who think that because they can afford tp throw their ducats away for a fat, stinky, incontinent, lying definitely demented racist idiot DOES NOT MEAN that the majority of Californians will go for this nonsense. Hell, he doesn't know how to lie convincingly. I susppose anything's possible but I find it hard to believe that this will work again.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
9. It's no coincidence that
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 01:37 AM
Mar 2021

they are attacking the Democratic Governors of the two Democratic states with the most electoral votes at the same time.

If they are paying the signature gatherers by the signature which is how it's largely done these days, there's going to be a lot of bogus ones.

liberalmediaaddict

(998 posts)
10. They tried to impeach Kentucky's Gov Beshear
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 02:09 AM
Mar 2021

Because he's a Democrat in a red state who's really popular. Trying to remove him from office because of his Covid restrictions. Luckily the hearings went nowhere and the committee was shut down.

kysrsoze

(6,406 posts)
11. They "may" have enough signatures, but they'll never get enough votes
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 02:13 AM
Mar 2021

These fucks lost hundreds of thousands of signatures because they were not deemed valid. Imagine that... Republicans committing voter fraud. So it's questionable they truly got enough signatures in time.

Regardless, Newsom has a 50+% approval rating, so I'm not concerned he's going to lose the recall election. Plus I think people are sick of the Republican party's nonstop assholism.

winstars

(4,275 posts)
12. In 8 weeks CA will have so many people vaccinated more things will be open and different.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 03:06 AM
Mar 2021

Then people will have to choose between voting for the guy who led the state through a fucking horror show Covid crisis and some fucking 'pug hack...

Vote for the guy who went to the French Laundry for dinner but did his best in a very bad situation or a fucking 'pug hack.

Vote for the guy who will have set up a system that will vaccinate 3,000,000+ people a WEEK in CA in April or a fucking 'pug hack.


Its pretty simple...

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
15. Schwarzenegger was peculiarly popular, don't bet against Newsom
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 06:00 AM
Mar 2021

A Republican nominee will have to support Trump to get Repub votes. But supporting Trump will be fatal among dem voters.

DAngelo136

(342 posts)
17. It Goes Even Deeper....
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 06:47 AM
Mar 2021

Should they succeed, keep in mind a Governor would have the power to replace a Senator if she lets say, resigned for health reasons. Can you think of anybody in that situation?

Maxheader

(4,415 posts)
19. around the country....worthless ingrats
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 07:25 AM
Mar 2021

I wonder if its all rabid rightys against liberal politicos?...

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
21. I don't support the recall.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 07:42 AM
Mar 2021

And, I'm still going to vote against any Repub right down to dog catcher. I am against Repubs. This is what they get after four years of misery under Trump.

EVERY time I run up against someone who doesn't mask, I can't help but wonder if they brought the damned bug to my door. Recalling Newsome because he locked down California is stupid and revolting. The Covid-19 virus is NOT his fault, and he handled it as best he could.

No one else could have somehow vanquished this pandemic. At least he tried to do something. All Repubs ever did was sit there on their thumbs and let the virus run wild. That's what they did. Nothing.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
22. A waste of money and sure to be a circus like the last recall
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 08:03 AM
Mar 2021

Except in that one the Republican party still had some juice and a legit celebrity candidate. This one will effectively make the GOP irrelevant for decades if they aren't already in CA.

bucolic_frolic

(53,748 posts)
23. I think they should recall the rights of recallers to behave like Californians
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 08:15 AM
Mar 2021

in other words to behave like the goody-two-shoes they claim to be. That ought to be popular.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
24. Only That one CA Congressional District gets to vote on recall
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:15 AM
Mar 2021

If those voters sign enough signatures, then an election must be held. Period.
If those voters vote to recall Rep Devin Nunes, then that is that. Period.

This decision generates lots of opinions, but there are about a million voters whose decision. not opinion, matters. Period.

So pipe up all you like. My money is on the voters of the 22nd Congressional District of California decision. Period.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
25. A pathetic waste of time and money.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:41 AM
Mar 2021

They have virtually no chance of getting him out of office.

Newsom’s approval rating is still above water and the Repukes have no strong candidates to run against him. Even if they had a major celebrity candidate in Schwarzenegger’s tier, I doubt they would win after how much of a disaster Arnie was as governor.

This is so stupid.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
26. a GOP of racists
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 10:12 AM
Mar 2021

candidate will be far worse at leading Californians than the present governor. But if he's recalled I pray for those affected by an election that will put a member of the WSP in a leadership position.

ancianita

(42,757 posts)
27. The corporate Right is out to topple coastal Democratic states by any means necessary.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 11:06 AM
Mar 2021

The scream machine is cranked to 11.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,063 posts)
29. I could be wrong, but I don't think they would have gotten this many signatures,
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 02:00 PM
Mar 2021

without that photo of him at The French Laundry.

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