Recall Gavin Newsom Campaign Breaks 2 Million Signatures As Vote Looms
Source: Newsweek
The campaign to recall California Governor Gavin Newsom claimed to have gathered more than two million signatures as of Wednesday night—taking the petition over the finish line with a week left until deadline day.
The Recall Gavin Newsom group said it had gathered more than 2,060,000 signatures as of yesterday evening, and had turned over roughly 1.8 million signatures to county officers for verification.
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Protestors gathered outside the California State Capitol in Sacramento on Sunday as the campaign said it was nearing the 2 million signature mark. Toward the end of the rally, they chanted "goodbye Newsom."
However, polls indicate that campaigners hoping to unseat Newsom could have an uphill battle, as the governor holds a decent approval rating with local voters. According to one Public Policy Institute of California poll released last month, 52 percent of likely voters in the state approved of Newsom's performance in office.
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USAFRetired_Liberal
(4,392 posts)Will that 52% come out and vote...we know that the minority will be fired up and that could turn into the majority on Election Day if people don’t show up to vote
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)
Warpy
(114,653 posts)if Newsom is recalled. While she's a Democrat, she's an MBA Democrat, meaning she is unlikely to have any more success than Newsom did unless she throws her education out the window and makes some tough decisions, arm twisting the lege to get them through.
CA is a victim of its own success and is suffering the effects of that worse than the rest of the country is. It's why I landed in NM when I left Boston, CA was too expensive, too crowded, and too full of wingnuts.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)There are two parts to the ballot question:
1. Should the Governor be recalled (majority vote required)?
2. IF THE GOVERNOR IS RECALLED, who should be the replacement? This is followed by a list of all candidates who've submitted sufficient petition signatures. In the Gray Davis recall, there were 135 candidates who filed, and we got Schwartzenneger.
Warpy
(114,653 posts)although Ah-nuld wasn't nearly as bad as he could have been. I'm delighted to have missed him.
NM has had its share of prize packages, too, but it's a low population state and they fail to achieve critical mass.
tinrobot
(12,114 posts)What a sh*t show that was...
If we stay united, rally behind Newsom and keep fellow Democrats off the ballot, we might stand a chance.
certainot
(9,090 posts)always has
it's the same in every state - the same motherfuckers on the local radio shows that screamed COVID was a hoax, politicized mask wearing, and yelled for reopening get to distort and lie all they want because democrats ignore them and blame democrats for every thing that goes wrong. they yell for reopening, call it just another flu, only kills people with preexisting, liberals a scared of nothing, etc and then when deaths spike they fault the democrats for not getting vaccines in fast enough, etc
for 30 years 1500 unchallenged radio stations have had it both ways
democrats really need to take advantage of limbaugh's croaking and the havoc that's created because they can't replace him with one asshole, and none are as good at lying as him, along with artificial intelligence which makes it possible to transcribe talk radio without listening and boycott the crap out of those stations until the ad industry is forced to break up the monopoly
dems could also protest San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1, which broadcast sports on 5 ex-limbaugh stations involved in the recall and probably a lot of other CA schools also supporting the recall likewise
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)is increase the number of signatures needed to start a recall. 1.8 million signatures out of a 40 million population is nothing. They have a super majority so it shouldn’t be hard to up the quota to 25 percent of the state population. That seems much really reasonable.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Not the population as a whole.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)
Tikki
(15,210 posts)like Schwarzenegger.
He was a lousy Gov. and an embarrassment.
I expect the repugs to try to hoist a loser like that on us to get their way.
Tikki
Initech
(109,237 posts)Schwarzenegger won because he was a household brand name. And even when he was the governor, he had to play by the rules and not what the cult wanted. This time around, looking at the pool of potential candidates the right has, they really don't have anyone with a household name like Schwarzenegger has. If the recall is put to a ballot the list of candidates who could replace Newsom is most likely to be a revolving door.
The other thing too, is that this is *NOTHING* new to California, we're the only state that has attempted to recall any serious liberal governor, time and time again, going all the way back to Nixon and even before Reagan was governor. And out of like 30 recall elections, only one has been successful. And if Trump comes out here and starts campaigning, that's almost certain to be a lose - lose situation for whoever runs against Newsom.
sdfernando
(6,104 posts)but Arnold threw in his hat and it was bye-bye Darryl....So, although I hated that Davis was recalled at least we didn't end up with Issa! I'd expect that Issa will throw in his hat again.
yaesu
(9,448 posts)Nixie
(18,103 posts)they can. 
Initech
(109,237 posts)We've had like 30 attempts to recall governors in the last 50 years here, and we've only had one successful. That's because the guy they ran just happened to be an extremely popular movie star with some snappy Hollywood style catch phrases, which conservatives say they hate, but they secretly love. They have no one right now who could stand to run against Newsom, and even if it makes it to ballot, and even if Trump dares to set his foot in the campaign, it's still going to be a lose - lose situation for anyone who runs against Newsom.
Nixie
(18,103 posts)appeal that carried over. The other GOP clods can't measure up to the Terminator. I think you're on to something here. Plus, Gray Davis was screwed over by Cheney's phony power crisis -- shut off the power and then claim it's supply and demand to gouge people.
Initech
(109,237 posts)But you know what? They can't get elected without star power! Their two most beloved presidents are an actor (Reagan) and a reality TV star (Trump). Not to mention they had Schwarzenegger as a governor and that was the only time they've ever had a successful recall, and even he's turned on the GOP since then. If they don't have star power, they're not getting the CA governor's chair. 
Nixie
(18,103 posts)how this plays out. Covid just dropped into their laps to put some wind in their sails. We’ll see how far that gets them now that vaccines are rolling out.
Cha
(320,480 posts)to "recall" Gov Newsom?
BC of the trump VIRUS protocols?
Nixie
(18,103 posts)November 2020 when Newsom was photographed without a mask at a group dinner at the exclusive French Laundry restaurant. After Californians were suffering with his imposed lockdown, that seems to have been the breaking point.
But I did look it up because I remember seeing the recall tents outside Home Depots before that. Here is some info from ABC7 news about when the Newsom recall started. I'll post a small paragraph, but it's just nonsensical stuff -- mostly anti-Democrat campaign rhetoric, but this is all the GOP has here. The recall effort started in February 2020, so before Covid, and the Republicans have just gotten lucky recently with that Newsom picture at a group dinner and a year of blaming Covid on Newsom.
"The petitioners' grievances include:
"Laws he endorsed favor foreign nationals, in our country illegally, over that of our own citizens. People in this state suffer the highest taxes in the nation, the highest homelessness rates, and the lowest quality of life as a result. He has imposed sanctuary state status and fails to enforce immigration laws. He unilaterally over-ruled the will of the people regarding the death penalty. He seeks to impose additional burdens on our state by the following; removing the protections of Proposition 13, rationing our water use, increasing taxes and restricting parental rights.""
https://abc7news.com/recall-newsom-petition-gov-update-status-signature-count/10256979/
Cha
(320,480 posts)I hope he's ok. 
Sure thing, Cha. Initech
(109,237 posts)If you look at who's behind the recall - it's pretty much the worst people you could expect. The far right, the Proud Boys, the radical fundamentalist evangelicals. You know - Trump's people. 
Cha
(320,480 posts)down in a flame of ash
Initech
(109,237 posts)And literally only one was successful because he was a box office superstar (I'll let you guess which one). Even if this actually does go to a ballot, unless they have a legitimate candidate, they have better odds of winning the Powerball than they do actually succeeding at this. It's really just political theater and to get their base riled up.
aggiesal
(10,912 posts)and it will be the taxpayers who will have to foot the bill for the election.
2M votes I think are all the (R)'s in California.
This will not be successful.
Newsom should run on the same strategy that Gov. Scott Walker used when he was recalled,
that Newsom has not done anything illegal.
This is all about the mask mandate and the Covid orders.
bluestarone
(22,454 posts)DON'T TRUST THEM!!!
Loubee
(173 posts)GOP grifters run the "Recall" game routinely in Colorado. It's a money-making, personal data gathering scheme that never qualifies for an election.
Frank Roosevelt
(20 posts)Newsom will not be recalled.
movingviolation
(310 posts)I hope this gets the smackdown it deserves. People like this make me not-so-proud to be Californian. These people need to get a life.
winstars
(4,282 posts)Fuck these idiots....
Recall him because he went to dinner at The French Laundry? Are you kidding me.
Its been a tough year for everyone, him included... No playbook and yes, mistakes have been made.
But California is currently doing 1.7 million vaccine shots a week and will very soon do 2 million. We could do 4 million RIGHT NOW if the vaccines existed... By May 1st California will be well on the way to herd immunity and things will be very different.
Its a HUGE state with almost 40 million people...
Recall the Governor because people couldn't go out to eat? LOL
SpankMe
(3,754 posts)An affair and some personality traits that rub a lot of people the wrong way.
But as governor, his term has been scandal free and relatively transparent. He's focused on the people's business and has had the courage to stand up to members of his own party for some particularly crazy legislation they tried to send him.
I wasn't a fan a few years ago. But, I like the job he's doing now.
Republicans suck hard.
C Moon
(13,735 posts)Far-right movements including QAnon, virus skeptics linked to Newsom recall
SACRAMENTO — As the pandemic continues to shutter businesses, close schools and upend lives in California, Gov. Gavin Newsom has become a target of angry frustration for some, driving a grassroots effort to recall him from office. What once started as a pipe dream is beginning to look like a political threat for the Democratic governor.
But a Times investigation found that recall campaign leaders, seeking to capitalize on the darkening public mood, allied with radical and extreme elements early on to help collect signatures. Those included groups promoting distrust of government, science and medicine; peddlers of QAnon doomsday conspiracies; “patriots” readying for battle and one organization allied with the far-right extremist group, the Proud Boys.
The recall gave those fringe factions a higher profile and a shared villain. They helped energize the campaign with large and often inflammatory rallies over masks, in support of Trump and against the election they falsely say was stolen from the former president — ripe venues to harvest petition signatures.
TomCADem
(17,837 posts)The general gubernatorial election is not too far away in 2022. So, why fund a recall just one year prior to the election? The answer is simple: Republicans do not want to run in an election where people actually vote. So, by paying for people to gather a relatively small amount of signatures compared to the number of people who voted for Trump, you can get a recall on the ballot.
Now, because it is a special election, turnout is going to be very low with the main folks willing to participate are the people in favor of a the recall. As a result, if you have cash to burn, funding a recall is the best way to buy a seat.
In California, there are instances where a rich guy will fund an off year recall of local officials to control a board or city council. California should fix this loophole and require recall elections to be consolidated with the next general election to avoid this type of billionaire gamesmanship.
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/news/2019/12/02/billionaire-donates--500-000-to-recall-westminster-city-leaders
In recent months, Hoang has gained a lot of attention that he says he didn’t want, but has to accept because he has publicly spoken against the mayor of Westminster, Council Member Kimberly Ho, and Council Member Chi Charlie Nguyen. In July, Westminster-United, a resident-led group, which is working to recall the council majority came public with their plans. Hoang has supported their recall efforts by donating more than $500,000, helped hire a recall consultant, hired signature gatherers, and has paid for TV ads and posters.
“Seriously, I feel very ashamed I have to do this in order to salvage and restore the dignity of the Vietnamese American and reputation of Vietnamese Americans. Not so many of us are like this. This is a very small group of people,” says Hoang.
In his office in Thousand Oaks, Hoang has dozens of folders which he says contains proof of abuse of power and corruption done by many Vietnamese American figures in Southern California including the Westminster City Council majority.
Many people have criticized Hoang for involving himself in this recall effort because he doesn’t live in Westminster, but Hoang says it’s his responsibility as an American to make sure that he is supporting people who will unite their communities.
C Moon
(13,735 posts)dhill926
(16,953 posts)assholes...
nwliberalkiwi
(428 posts)Get a Republican governor, and if Feinstien leaves office the Republican governor will appoint a Republican senator and flip the Senate. This is what this is all about. Get out and vote Gavin as if your like depended on it!!!
turbinetree
(27,735 posts)recall from what I have read , so where did he get the money for this effort...........anyone California know the answer to this?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/recall-gavin-newsom-campaign-breaks-2-million-signatures-as-vote-looms/ar-BB1eu5Pe?li=BBnb7Kz
FlyingPiggy
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IzzaNuDay
(1,329 posts)Given what CA has gone through in the last year, just wait until the gubernatorial elections to "recall" Newsom. Work on finding a governor to elect when it's time, rather than disrupting the situation.