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pstokely

(10,533 posts)
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:56 AM Mar 2021

Californians reluctant to return to indoor dining and sporting events, poll finds

Source: KTLA

COVID-19 was identified as the top issue facing California by 21.6% of those polled, followed by homelessness at 19.1%, corrupt politicians at 17.5%, housing costs at 14.9%, and the environment at 6%. No other issue topped 6%.

The poll found older respondents more likely to be ready for pre-pandemic activities, with younger respondents tending to be more cautious.

More than 61% of respondents age 18 to 29 said they would not eat indoors, while nearly half of those 50 and older said they would. A similar age trend was found in the data for sporting events, with nearly half of those over 50 willing to attend, while only a little over a third would do so among those 18 to 29.

A far greater portion of those who don’t plan to get vaccinated said they would eat at a restaurant indoors or attend a sporting event, “suggesting those most vulnerable to getting Covid will be at these events,” said Spencer Kimball, director of Emerson College Polling.

Read more: https://ktla.com/news/california/californians-reluctant-to-return-to-indoor-dining-and-sporting-events-poll-finds/

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LonePirate

(13,437 posts)
2. These poll results are bizarre.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:39 AM
Mar 2021

Maybe it is anecdotal, but it is younger Americans who have been flocking to beaches and nightclubs across the country while older Americans have abiding by the lockdowns to a larger extent.

Also, I know weather is a factor but how did homelessness poll so highly, especially over joblessness or food insecurity or school closures or other lock down elements? Similarly, why is corrupt politicians an issue? I know the right in CA loathe Newsom for his lockdown orders; but he is not corrupt except in right wing fever dream world.

JI7

(89,283 posts)
3. It's probably more about money for younger people
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:47 AM
Mar 2021

They aren't going to do these things anyways becsuse they don't have money.

Bucky

(54,088 posts)
4. California has a MASSIVE homelessness problem
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 10:47 AM
Mar 2021

Also, remember this is a single-response survey question. Look these would be more people worried about unemployment among all issues, but among those worried about homelessness it tends to take a central place.

I work for years in market research and it's very easy to misread polling data

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
13. Think of it this way - you only see the ones who *are* flocking to those places
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 05:21 PM
Mar 2021

and events. You won't see the ones who are staying home and acting more responsibly. And these polls seem to indicate that the ones you see are a hyper-visible minority.

As far as anecdotal experience, from what I see in my college town (not in CA), there's definitely a subset of the undergrad population doing dumb shit and causing spikes of cases in my county, but the vast majority of the students and young professionals who live here are doing the right thing. Staying masked, staying home, being careful, sticking with carry-out, etc.

In fact, at my business, where we are operating curbside only, the people who are most likely to show up for pickups unmasked or improperly masked (loose, below the nose, etc) are older folks. Like in their 60s or 70s. They're also the ones who continually ask when we'll let people in again, second-guess our decision not to... It boggles my mind.

I do see young people (HS and undergrad) hanging around outside in groups with to-go drinks from a nearby cafe (also doing curbside only) without masks while they are drinking, in larger groups, too close and loud imho, but (anecdotally, lol) they are the minority.

Raine

(30,541 posts)
16. Homelessness is epidemic here, it's even in the suburbs
Wed Mar 17, 2021, 04:15 AM
Mar 2021

you can't drive more then a very few miles without seeing the homeless. It's sad, people are very concerned but no one does anything or even seems to know what to do.

Journeyman

(15,043 posts)
6. Yes, and if the vaccine-resistant are the ones most ready to go out to eat . . .
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 11:49 AM
Mar 2021

count me among those who will continue to cook at home or order takeout. And I'm fully vaccinated and have always enjoyed trying new kitchens.

ZonkerHarris

(24,289 posts)
7. Im in CA and over 50 and I'm not ready to eat indoors at a restaurant. Gonna be a while.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:34 PM
Mar 2021

I'm not going to stop wearing a mask for a long time too.
Turns out humans have a lot of germs, not just covid.
Pretty sure because of the mask and increased hand washing is why I didn't even have a sniffle or hint of a cold in the last year

chowder66

(9,099 posts)
8. The misinformed are everywhere. Even in my state.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:36 PM
Mar 2021

I would like to see why they don't like the rollout, who they think is corrupt and then ask if they would support housing for the homeless in their neighborhood.

Californians don't want the homeless near them. They fight like hell to keep them from building in or around their neighborhoods.

In my opinion, Newsom has done a terrific job. He has held pressers nearly daily or had his health experts hold them. They give out all the information anyone needs and provide links for more information. If someone isn't informed enough.... it's on them.

I knew what tier I would be in for my vaccination and I got called ahead of time (on Friday) for my appointment and they offered an opening that day. I couldn't take it so they scheduled me in for Monday. Got my vaccine. Completely organized. Well done.

deurbano

(2,896 posts)
9. I think it depends on where it is. My daughter was in Bakersfield last week for my mother's 90th
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:52 PM
Mar 2021

birthday (she surprised her), and even though Bakersfield is still in the purple tier, so indoor dining is prohibited (according to state rules), the local gov won't enforce that, so there were lots of restaurants open. My daughter is only 18, but she qualified to get vaccinated several weeks ago and was fully vaccinated (including the two-week period after the last dose) when she got there, as was my mom. But she is still extremely careful since the ability of vaccinated people to transmit (or not) the virus is still not fully understood. One cousin was there from out of state, and she has had COVID, but could potentially get it again... but that risk seemed small, all things considered. But then there were some last-minute birthday surprises, and people without masks came into my mom's house (we haven't had anyone in our house or been in anyone's house since March 7, 2020)... and then, there was a surprise dinner for my mom with ten or so other people, indoor at a local restaurant. Most (or all) of the other people were not vaccinated, but they took off their masks right when they got to the table. My daughter was shocked. Since we had one last member in our family who hadn't yet received the second dose (she got it yesterday... yay!) when my daughter came back, she stayed downstairs (basement family room and bedroom), and wore a mask when upstairs until she got a COVID test on the 6th day home and was negative.

My daughter missed HS graduation here in San Francisco, and so much more, plus she is attending a UC remotely. All her/our friends and acquaintances have taken this very seriously, but it is a different culture down there. The people at the restaurant party were colleagues my mom worked with in a congressional office before she retired... and some still work there for the current congressman, the House Minority leader. Meanwhile, my mom has spent the last year blaming any outbreaks in Bakersfield on "the Mexicans" for not wearing masks. (Denial is not just a river in Egypt.)

SWBTATTReg

(22,196 posts)
11. We are too (in STLMO). Reluctant to really engage in any large scale public gatherings or crowds.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:54 PM
Mar 2021

Not worth it, and besides, why do we need to? They downsized (went to a virtual mode of the annual Marti Gras here in STLMO (the 2nd largest MG in the US)) and I think all of us were happy here in the city. Things will get back to normal, give it time. I don't know why in the world some people are so pushy in getting things back to 'normal', I don't think 'normal' will ever happen again.

MichMan

(12,001 posts)
14. Those who do feel comfortable can participate, and others can decline if they so choose.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 07:58 PM
Mar 2021

Unfortunately there will likely be many people that will remain germaphobes for years. No one is forced to do any of these things; those who do feel comfortable can participate, and others can decline if they so choose.

SunSeeker

(51,787 posts)
15. I sure as fuck am not going into a bar or restaurant in LA.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 09:51 PM
Mar 2021

No need to. We have the best weather in the world and every restaurant has patio set-ups. There is absolutely no need to endanger yourself by going inside.

Maybe later this summer when everyone is vaccinated, but I'm definitely not venturing inside right now.

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