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Jose Garcia

(2,587 posts)
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:33 PM Mar 2021

Ex-officer on trial for George Floyd's death asks to show jury an earlier arrest

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Source: https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2B82

Almost exactly a year before George Floyd was killed in a deadly arrest by Minneapolis police officers in May 2020, he found himself in another encounter with police in which he became distressed as an officer pointed a gun at him.

On Tuesday, a lawyer for Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer on trial for murder charges for Floyd's death, asked the judge to allow the jury to see evidence of the earlier episode.

In the arrest of May 6, 2019, a panicking Floyd swallowed several opioid pain-killer pills as police approached. Eric Nelson, Chauvin's lead lawyer, has argued that the main cause of Floyd's death a year later, which was ruled a homicide, was the opioid fentanyl found in his blood at autopsy.

"The similarities are incredible, it's the exact same behavior in two incidents almost exactly one year apart," Nelson told the court before the resumption of jury selection, noting Floyd called out for his "mama" in both arrests, according to video footage.

Read more: Reuters

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Hela

(440 posts)
1. Gee, too bad Mr. Floyd isn't here to defend you.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:39 PM
Mar 2021

Whose behavior is on trial here, Officer Chauvin? My take is that you saw that the first try didn't work, so you escalated it the second time, you fucking cold-blooded murderer.

JT45242

(2,248 posts)
2. Positional asphyxia not drugs
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:40 PM
Mar 2021

His cause of death was positional asphyxia -- the same cause of death as crucifixion. The cause of death was not drugs -- the coroner has already ruled that out.

The defense can feel free to cross examine the coroner and try to get the drugs in for reasonable doubt in that fashion only. The victim is not on trial, these men who abused their power are.

The prior acts of the defendant are not at issue -- the death of George Floyd as caused by Chauvin and his co-defendants is.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
9. How Does That Even Help The Defense
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:02 PM
Mar 2021

Why would a police officers pulling a gun on George in another stop help? It just exposes more excessive use of force against black men.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
12. Exactly.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:53 PM
Mar 2021

iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
3. This is ridiculous. These defense lawyers are putting George Floyd on trial. It's Derek Chauvin that
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:45 PM
Mar 2021

is on trial.

This is why I despise most defense lawyers.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
11. Defense lawyers are doing a job.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:53 PM
Mar 2021

Everyone is entitled to representation in criminal court. That's what our laws say. While I have serious issues with putting the victim on trial, I understand why they do it. It's the hope that it might just sway one juror over to the attitude that "they had it coming". That one juror can hang the jury. While I do not like it, it is an acknowledged strategy. Defense lawyers are charged with providing the best possible defense for that client. I'd wish the defense was true, but seems like truth isn't always the goal in spite of the laws.

I have a lot bigger issue with prosecutors that use paid testimony or who don't use contradicting testimony to try and convict on false charges. I truly hate the evil assholes who knowingly try and convict the innocent.


Laura

iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
14. I disagree that defense lawyers are doing a good job. They are attacking the victim. If their client
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 06:29 PM
Mar 2021

is innocent, then they should focus on showing their client did not cause the death of George Floyd by pushing his foot on Floyd's neck for 8 minutes and 45 seconds.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
4. Of course he became distressed when an officer pointed a gun at him.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:53 PM
Mar 2021

What else did you expect?

The standards for lawyers is far to low.

SledDriver

(2,057 posts)
5. Was Derek Chauvin involved in or familiar with this prior incident
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:56 PM
Mar 2021

before his encounter with George Floyd? If not, then how is it relevant to the case at hand?

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. What about the officer with his body weight pressing Mr. Floyd to the ground?
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:58 PM
Mar 2021

Any prior video of that kind of incident?

I fail to see the point of showing the prior video.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
7. The same thing except for the 9 minute snuff video.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 12:59 PM
Mar 2021

louis-t

(23,273 posts)
8. Irrelevant.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:35 PM
Mar 2021

Prior behavior is 100% irrelevant.

MichMan

(11,869 posts)
10. Wouldn't Chauvin's prior behavior be relevant in this case?
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 03:49 PM
Mar 2021

Or inadmissible?

Mr.Bill

(24,242 posts)
13. Floyd calling for his mama
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 05:21 PM
Mar 2021

isn't 1/1,000th of the evidence against this murdering bastard.

Omaha Steve

(99,500 posts)
15. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 07:06 PM
Mar 2021

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