Hate group Family Research Council reminds followers that Bible says to kill the "immoral" gays

[DonViejo]

Source: LGBTQ Nation



They're not happy with "secularists, humanists, hedonists, and the political Left" support for LGBTQ civil rights.

By Bil Browning Friday, March 19, 2021

The Family Research Council, an anti-LGBTQ hate group that serves as the lobbying arm of the religious right, describes LGBTQ people as “unnatural” and “immoral” in a message to supporters. They also remind recipients at the beginning of the missive of a Bible verse that commands followers to kill gay people.

“The apostle Paul explains that humanity has rejected God, exchanging the truth about Him and the things He created for a lie. While describing the sinful ‘exchanges’ men and women have made, Paul uses the term para physin, which means ‘unnatural’ or ‘against nature,”” he writes. “Homosexuality is unnatural because it is a departure from God’s design for sexuality. According to the passage, homosexuality is also a consequence of humanity suppressing God’s truth and refusing to honor Him. Another departure from God’s design for sexuality is transgenderism,” he continues before condoning dangerous “conversion therapy” meant to turn LGBTQ people straight or cisgender.

-snip-

“It is well known that the ‘Equality Act,’ if passed, will be used by activists in and out of government to harass and punish Christians who preach, teach, practice, or openly defend their faith pertaining to human sexuality.”

Tony Perkins, the group’s leader, got his start in politics as a Louisiana state representative. He bought his mailing list for supporters from David Duke, the former head of the Ku Klux Klan and made speeches in front of white supremacist groups. He was a staunch supporter of former President Donald Trump and his white nationalist supporters.

Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/03/hate-group-family-research-council-reminds-followers-bible-says-kill-immoral-gays

[Walleye]

1. Could be that god's design for sexuality is highly flawed

I thought the Bible said that men shouldn’t lay together with men. Doesn’t mention lesbians at all

[LiberalLoner]

4. I'm still all confused about the not wearing fabric of mixed fibers thing. If I wear jeans that

Have cotton and polyester thread does that mean I’m going to hell? I guess so.

[Walleye]

8. I think tattoos will get you condemned to hell as well. Lots of right wingers love their tattoos

[jmowreader]

12. That is an allegory

The real message is “stop doing the religious practices you did before you became a Christian.” The scripture also says not to sow a field with two kinds of seed, which taken to its extreme would mean anyone with a vegetable garden (which is typically sown with all the veggies you like) is hell-bound.

[LiberalLoner]

15. Oh, that's a good one to remember to zing right wingers with too, thanks!

[NullTuples]

75. They were not allegories, they were health/safety/productivity laws

Deuteronomy 22 –11 could be read as telling people not to mix with others, but regardless it was clearly meant to be taken literally.

[ShazzieB]

63. I guess I'm doomed.

All my jeans are stretch denim, which means there's spandex mixed in with the cotton fibers.

Oh, the horror! 😱

[Politicub]

79. A lot of skinny-jeans wearers are waddling down the road to hell,

I’m afraid to say. Satan’s waitin’.

[Claire Oh Nette]

6. They never, ever object to that, do they?

The entire object boils down to men with men, and their whole argument is reduced to ew, that's icky.

If they weren't so pervy about what goes on between consenting adults behind closed doors, they wouldn't need to know. Or care.

It's their fantasy to see women together....

[Walleye]

9. Correct. Don't know why they can't mind their own business.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

60. In their boring, miserable, shitty lives

there is no business worth minding.

[Walleye]

70. I think you put your finger on it

[eppur_se_muova]

2. Holy crap, now they're bashing hedonists ?!? That's the last straw !!! nt

[Midnight Writer]

3. Did not God create us all? Are we not all his children? Didn't God say he loves all of his children?

Did not God say he watches over us all as the shepherd watches over his flock?

These people need to go to church. They might learn something.

[Claire Oh Nette]

5. COuld be that homosexuality is GOd's mechanism for poulation control, too....

Fun fact: "Para physin" doesn't mean anything of the kind, and Tony Perkins is full of shit.

the latin for Natural is Natura....

Everything else is suspect after than made up nonsense, and likely projection of his own inner demons. Anymore, I'm beginning to think all this hyper-religiosity from white men is based on their love for Jesus--they love him, so it's not a big leap to think they love other men, too....

Not repression of god's word, but repression, all right.
GOP Get Outta People's Pants!!!

let people be.

[reACTIONary]

84. I believe Paul was writing in ...

... Greek, not Latin. Here is a link providing some interpretations and analysis:

https://www.dignityusa.org/faq/what-was-point-bible-texts-if-not-condemn-homosexuality

[tanyev]

7. The Bible also says that adulterers should be stoned to death.

But you never hear the Talibornagains pushing for that.

[catrose]

38. People who eat shellfish and wear mixed fiber clothing are not on God's Nice List either.

[Grokenstein]

59. Doesn't mesh well with their Golden Idol.

[Chainfire]

10. Right wingers have never seen a personal life issue

that they did not want to control. They want a world of cookie cutter automatons that all dance to the same tune. Churches are their allies in the quest.

Whenever someone tries attack me with "God" I always ask them, "Which God?" I get a lot of stuttering and stammering, over that question.

[SergeStorms]

52. As long as those automatons....

tithe. Gotta' give that 10% to the Crystal Cathedral, you know?

[Grokenstein]

58. "Why...Wun Troo, God of All Gods!"

"He says I'm right and should be able to do whatever I want! But not you! You're going to Hell for having a gum wrapper in the same pocket as your car keys! Now bring me your daughter!"

[Chainfire]

81. In large gold plated letters over the alter, the motto

Turn Right and Go Straight

[catbyte]

11. Eating pork, shellfish, certain types of facial hair, and wearing clothing woven from two types

of cloth are also punishable by death but I don't see the Family Research Council threatening Smoky Bones or Red Lobster.

I despise these bigots.

[multigraincracker]

13. "The Lord Works In Mysterious Ways". Isaiah 55:8-9

What that really means is that Eve was a transexual clone. Cloned from Adams rib and then transgendered.
It's not like LGBTQs are least among us, at least they are treated as such by those that claim to be Christians.
I also wonder about the Trinity. If all three are the same God, there is no gender given to the Holy Spirit, so I think its pronouns are He and She.

I kicked out of Sunday school at an early age.

[NotANeocon]

65. A really old 1/3 of a being

committd statuary rape of a teenager who could not consent because of power differential and impregnated her with a clone of himself. There HAS to be incest there somewhere.

(I know it's statutary - but she didn't move)

[DBoon]

14. Just like laws against murder persecute religions that practice human sacrifice

[Hassin Bin Sober]

16. They are talking about killing us but we are the people harassing?

[SouthernLiberal]

17. One thing that amazes me....

About so-called 'Christian' groups like this is how little attention they pay to parts of their bible that describe what Jesus said. It is always The Old Testament or Paul, the self-proclaimed apostle.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

72. Funny thing is there's absolutely no record of anything 'Jesus said' ...

There's no contemporaneous evidence of his existence whatsoever, let alone writings that are transcriptions from his literal words, taken while he was alive.

[lildDemz]

18. "reminds followers that Bible says to kill"

I don't pick this line up anywhere in your post. I see "deserve to be put to death." You're twisting the truth.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

22. Leviticus, the book of rules to pick and choose from

Leviticus 20:13-14, "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them."

[joetheman]

19. Paul wrote a lot o things that Jesus never said or promoted.

Even Paul will tell the reader when it's his opinion and not gospel. Paul had issues of his own that he admitted to.

[efhmc]

25. Once told my Lutheran pastor that if Paul is in heaven then it is nowhere I want to be.

He just laughed. Liberal who knew my Feminist views.

[multigraincracker]

36. Paul didn't speak to Jesus until years after Jesus died.

So, was that the return of Jesus that he spoke of? He did say in the Sermon on the Mt. that there were people there that day that would be there to see it.

[nuxvomica]

48. He also wrote that charity is greater than faith

He said in 1 Corinthians 13 that now we see "through a glass darkly" and should depend on our charity (agape) to be the guiding influence, not our faith. It is my favorite passage and should be read by fundamentalists, whom I call "tinkling cymbal" Christians.

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

[Aristus]

20. Classic, but worth repeating:

[nuxvomica]

35. Thanks for posting

Great scene; unassailable argument.

[LiberalFighter]

21. My Bible says to kill the heathen Family Research Council people.

So I will pray to the deity for it to happen.

[Evolve Dammit]

23. What Hooey. Jesus had two Dads and he turned out OK.

[efhmc]

26. Funny.

[Aristus]

37. Not really.

He was murdered by a bunch of heavily-armed, anti-Semitic white guys...

[Evolve Dammit]

71. It was a joke and yes, you're right.

[Bayard]

24. There's something in the Bible too about,

Thou shalt not kill. It does not specify, so I think its all inclusive.

[Aristus]

40. Every so often, you hear someone say: "Well you know, it really means Thou Shalt Not Murder."

Because they tend to be arguing in favor or war, the death penalty, or both.

My response to this is that it leaves interpretation open to include Unless, Of Course, You Really Want To.

[AllaN01Bear]

27. first off , my national bishop michael curry says , if bigotry is in your name ,

then christ isnt your game . my addition, what part dont you understand about ," love thy neighbor"

[IronLionZion]

28. I missed where the Bible instructs humans to execute God's will

or is that implied?

Because it also seems to conflict with a commandment about killing.

[multigraincracker]

39. I think if you are a Christian, you should forget the Commandments and just

follow the Beatitudes, the words of Jesus.

[IronLionZion]

44. It's hard to follow televangelists, because their private jets fly too fast.

[multigraincracker]

45. If a borrowed donkey was good enough for Jesus......

never mind.

[Joinfortmill]

55. 👍

[Initech]

29. It's this line of thinking that led to the holocaust.

Fuck these douchebags.

[vercetti2021]

30. Eve was the first transgender woman

Think about it. Eve was created from a rib from Adam. There for. She is a transgender!

[flibbitygiblets]

31. Cherry-picking bible verses, just one of the many things I hate about Xtians

They were 100% cool with the LITERAL GOLDEN IDOL status of Donald (who also broke most if not all commandments).

Eff these people.

[paleotn]

32. Tony has a persecution complex....

We don't give two shits in a windstorm what they believe. Teach it to your rubes, practice it, who cares? But use your mythology to both figuratively and actually bludgeon others in public society? OH..Hell no!

[zaj]

33. Where's the kill part?

I'm not seeing it.

[OverBurn]

34. My neighbor mows his yard on Sundays. I can legally kill him, right?

[multigraincracker]

41. The one that stones, or executes must first be

without sin if thou cast the first stone.

[nattyice]

42. It also says to kill false prophets. Like the ones that said God told them Trump would win

[3825-87867]

43. Didn't know gawd talked to Paul

When did he talk to all the others? And why can't the get their stories straight?

[Joinfortmill]

53. 👍

[bluestarone]

46. You take 1000 people off the streets and you got 1000 DIFFERENT Bible interpretations

THIS is why we need Separation of Church and State! STUPID PEOPLE.

[soldierant]

47. Rather than try to remember all that crap in Leviticus,

I generally try to frame this within Acts 10, wherein God sent Peter a vision (actually two visions - Peter was a good guy but was never the sharpest knife in the drawer) to tell him to forget about all that "unclean" stuff.

Back when most people - because most didn't know any better - thought homosexuality was a choice, I can understand misinterpretation. But now that we know beyond doubt that sexual orientation is established at birth. there's no excuse for calling or considering anyone "unclean" because of their sexuality.

[OMGWTF]

49. Homophobes are likely closeted, self-loathing homosexuals themselves, according to science.

Why do homophobes think about gay sex more than gays think about gay sex?

[sandensea]

67. +1

[Politicub]

80. Please stop. This is a slur. The self-loathing homosexual is a stereotype.

While there have been some people in the closet that work against gay rights and are homophobic, it does not mean that it is “likely” that a homophobe is gay.

This sentiment comes across as an insult, honestly.

[Joinfortmill]

50. The bible was written by humans.

What do they really know about God?

[raging moderate]

54. Jesus said the marriage rules were not for everyone.

People knew back then that not everybody is born strictly male or strictly female. While teaching about the sanctity of marriage, Jesus said, "Not everybody can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For some are born eunuchs, and some have been made eunuchs by others, and some have made themselves eunuchs." He said, "Let everyone accept this who can." Matthew 19:12. These people read in short snatches, as though their attention flickers in and out. And then they over-extrapolate. When the Book of Genesis says, "Male and female, God created them," it does not stop there, but somehow that is all these people remember. When it says, "Thou shalt bear no false witness against someone," all they remember is "no false witness," and somehow they think it is a mortal sin to lie to a murderer about his intended victim's location. They start with pre-conceived notions and triumphantly snatch out phrases that support their pre-conceived notions.

[hunter]

76. Reagan lived at 666 St. Cloud Road in Bel Air, California.

Nancy had the address changed to 668, probably on the advice of her astrologer.

Like Trump Reagan was irreligious, incurious, a rapist, and rotten to the core. But the fascist Christians loved him.

[Dreampuff]

57. People like this give Christians a bad image.

Like was said in previous post, " Judge ye not lest ye be judged." Not to mention the fifth commandment. I was taught that God made us all and loves us all and he will judge us all.

[cayugafalls]

61. There is no god. Religion is used to grift, control, scare and explain thunderstorms and lightning.

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Conservatives use religion as an excuse to hate.

Millennia ago as the caveman, crouched in fear of the thunder, one brave grifter saw his opportunity to gain power and forgo the hunt, thus was born religion.

Fuck them all.

[RussBLib]

78. Indeed

All these idiots running around quoting goatherders and 10th century despots is nothing short of tragic absurdity.

[YoshidaYui]

62. MAYBE the US government and the Justice Dept. should label them a Terrorist group cause you know

One of their Radicalized member will go OFF HALF COCKED and start killing people.

[Ford_Prefect]

64. I've always found it strange that people who call themselves Christian, who

purport to be more righteously so than me or you, and by definition closer to God's perfect vision of man (yes, I hear the irony), always seem to value the fire and brimstone version of Old testament God over the more forgiving and actively loving New testament Christ.

Likewise they seem to be selective in their choices of translation, editing, and era regarding their English language bible. King James version and that published since 1950 particularly seems to be a favorite. Often the people who are most outspoken in their pronouncements and fatwahs have little if any religious training or advanced study in the documents they claim to know so well. Nor are they aware of seeming contradictions found within the "Holy Book" and among the documents, various translations, and commentaries which formed the basis for that publication and the apocryphal material excluded from it.

It is important to understand who is directing and funding this institution in particular, and where FRC spend (yes! They do) lobbying money in Congress and elsewhere. 98% of it goes to GOP members and legislators. Much like the NRA they act as a front group for corporate donations to influence Congress and state legislators alike. When they attack LGBTQ people they do it representing the same corporate entities who paid to have Trump shoved into the White House.

They do this knowingly. So when you hear or read remarks like those in the latest Fatwah from FRC you should be aware that they are speaking for corporate enterprises, financial institutions, and extremely wealthy individuals who dare not be identified in public as holding these views or oppressing LGBTQ Americans.

IMO it is well past time when the FBI and Treasury should be investigating the finances of FRC and its like. The results will not sway those cultists for whom fear is an addiction and misogyny a weapon. However, it would be meaningful to unmask the wealthy interests who manipulate them and Congress.

[MrsCheaplaugh]

74. Really good points.

I wonder what would spring out of their bushes in an audit.

[kimbutgar]

66. What bible verse says that?

I am curious!

[JohnnyRingo]

68. WTF!?

Do they all say the quiet parts out loud now?
Something's gotta change.

[Major Nikon]

69. You can safely assume you've created god in your own image...

when it turns out that god hates all the same people you do. --Anne Lamott

[Justice matters.]

73. The U.S. Criminal Code Title 18, CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE states otherwise...

Nuf' said.

[lambchopp59]

77. PTSD trigger

Dammit.
I've come so far removing the guilt-trip bullshit the religion nutjobs attempted to deprive me of my life with so long ago. The long arm (distant relatives named Phelps) of the Westboro idiots very nearly succeeded in 1976. "Dog" intervened. Long story, I've been through so much therapy and self affirming treatment to overcome.
Some of the oddest image that comes to mind is that the exact church that whipped up the pack mentality had a huge wooden cross in front of it. I used to joke about who they were going to crucify.
Whoops.
Seems religion always has to find someone to demonize, without recognizing the demons that possess themselves.

[ck4829]

85. Kick