Suing Nancy Pelosi Was Reason for Sidestepping House Metal Detectors, Says GOP's Andrew Clyde
Source: Newsweek
Georgia congressman Andrew Clyde announced plans to sue House Speaker Nancy Pelosi after he was fined $15,000 for bypassing metal detectors to enter the Capitol.
In February, House Democrats passed a rule saying that lawmakers would be fined $5,000 for refusing to go through metal detectors outside of congressional chambers. Lawmakers who refuse again would be fined an additional $10,000. The metal detectors were put in place as an additional security precaution following the January 6 riot, where supporters of former President Donald Trump invaded the Capitol building. Lawmakers are given 30 calendar days or five legislative days to appeal the fine to the House Ethics Committee.
Clyde has broken the rule twice and told Fox News on Saturday that he did so with the plan to try to sue the House Speaker. "I did that so we would have legal standing to take the case to federal court, and that's exactly what I'm going to do," he told Fox.
Clyde said that getting fined was part of his strategy in fighting the rule, and he is prepared for a legal battle. "I'm all teed up to do that. People have to stand for the Constitution. And if I have to get fined in order to give me a legal standing to do that then I'll be fined," he told the network.
Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/suing-nancy-pelosi-was-reason-for-sidestepping-house-metal-detectors-says-gops-andrew-clyde/ar-BB1eNjYz?li=BBnb7Kz
There's no constitutional right to endanger other peoples safety you idiot.
CurtEastPoint
(19,868 posts)
robleb
(312 posts)he looks constipated.
CurtEastPoint
(19,868 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(12,172 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)He is blue,
And in a shoe,
And hasn't got a clue,
And is a total fool.....
It ain't perfect....but at least I tried...Thank You....
AZ8theist
(7,113 posts)The House sets its own rules. You want to be a member, you have to follow them.

AND OF COURSE THIS ANTI-AMERICAN FACSIST SCUMBAG VOTED FOR DICTATORSHIP OVER DEMOCRACY
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/electoral-college-biden-objectors.html
Lord Ludd
(585 posts)please brush up on the proper use of "its" & "it's".
AZ8theist
(7,113 posts)catrose
(5,342 posts)Wuddles440
(1,986 posts)as it appears that the post did properly use "its" as possessive and not as the contraction "it's" for "it is" or "it has".
Lord Ludd
(585 posts)Wuddles440
(1,986 posts)Thanks for the clarification!
Judi Lynn
(164,050 posts)Lord Ludd
(585 posts)Keep going, please; I love dueling ironies & sarcasms. Very Buckley-Vidal.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)Then you have those who are fucking stupid enough to cite the Constitution on the subject without ever bothering to read the first article, specifically section 5.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,222 posts)Pelosi can ignore any ruling from any judge.
Evolve Dammit
(21,535 posts)rurallib
(64,573 posts)and filing fees etc.
If he had any honor he would pay for it himself.
Ford_Prefect
(8,518 posts)money to do whatever he wants to.
No rules or domestic laws apply to him or his kind. According to GOP dogma they are only there to inconvenience Democrats.
Tommymac
(7,334 posts)
JohnnyRingo
(20,553 posts)I believe that's what he's suing for. They might as well start taking them out of the airports and courts now because this lawsuit is a shoe-in.
He doesn't think he's suing so he personally doesn't have to go through metal detectors, does he?
He should talk to his mentor Louis Gohmert first.
WhiteTara
(31,199 posts)The House is separate and equal to the courts and can set any dang rule they want. Cool thing about this rule is that it's an automatic deduction for his paycheck.
MichMan
(16,718 posts)patphil
(8,746 posts)Just about as much chance of winning.
Where does the Republican Party find these idiots anyway?
FakeNoose
(40,364 posts)What gives him the right to endanger the lives of the Democratic Congressmen? What enables him to ignore the metal detector rule that everyone else obeys every day? Let him explain to the federal judge why he's more important than all the other representatives.
George II
(67,782 posts)....by the House. That the republicans didn't vote for it was incidental, they could have.
And that law suit will last about as long as trump's election fraud lawsuits.
elias7
(4,229 posts)Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi has nothing to do with. Its like holding Hillary Clinton responsible for Benghazi, and the press not hammering the point home that certain leaders are dead wrong.
Talitha
(7,707 posts)BumRushDaShow
(166,260 posts)(snip)
Section 5.
Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide.
Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei
(emphasis mine)
THE END.
They should recall him to active duty and court martial him for dumbassery and then put that MBA in the trash. It's useless.
usaf-vet
(7,761 posts)as "BumRushDsShow" above pointed out......
Just a little close to home. They don't even know what they are taking the oath for. And it is not just the Second Amendment... period.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-1/section-5/clause-1/
BumRushDaShow
(166,260 posts)When President Obama attempted to do a Recess appointment of several positions - notably head of the CFPB and a couple NLRB members - because the argument was that despite the Senate doing "Pro-forma" sessions (gaveling in every 3 days and then eventually adjourning subject to the call of the chair within about 5 minutes after the benediction & pledge of allegiance), that they really weren't "in session" doing any legislating (no one was ever there), so they were basically "in recess".
Well the GOP had a fit (anything to thwart Obama), sued, and it went all the way to the SCOTUS (National Labor Relations Board v. Noel Canning) - which unanimously ruled against Obama (although with slightly differing opinions about the details) -
By Robert Barnes
June 26, 2014
The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in making high-level government appointments in 2012 when he declared the Senate to be in recess and unable to act on the nominations. Obama made appointments to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) at a time when the Senate was holding pro forma sessions every three days precisely to thwart the presidents ability to exercise the power.
The Senate is in session when it says it is, Justice Stephen G. Breyer wrote for the court, stressing that if the Senate is able to conduct business, that is enough to keep the president from making recess appointments.
(snip)
The justices employed Founding-era documents and the long history of recess appointments there have been thousands of them to interpret the Constitutions Recess Clause. It says the president shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate.
(snip)
It was the question of pro forma sessions that had prompted the case. Senate Democrats started such sessions in 2007 to prevent President George W. Bush from making recess appointments. Despite encouragement from his advisers to challenge the legitimacy of the sessions, he declined.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-rebukes-obama-on-recess-appointments/2014/06/26/e5e4fefa-e831-11e3-a86b-362fd5443d19_story.html
In Shrub's case, I believe it was due to installing Bolton as the U.S. Representative to the U.N. via a Recess Appointment (which is temporary until the end of a Congressional session) and that atrocity prompted the then-Democratic-controlled Senate to institute the "Pro-forma" sessions via a Rule, and that Rule has remained ever since. Anyone who is a CSPAN junky can watch those brief "sessions" on CSPAN2 when the Senate is "away" (including during extended holidays or "District work periods" ) where someone volunteers (often the local and/or close-by members) to gavel them in briefly, go through the motions of "Morning Business", and then go into recess "Subject to the Call of the Chair".
Basically, the Senate made its own "Rules" (allowance for "Pro-forma" sessions) and defined what that meant (every 3 days, since there is a mention in the Constitution in that same Article 1/Section 5 with that time frame, and that is what they used) -
(snip)
Section 5.
(snip)
Neither House, during the session of Congress, shall, without the consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei
usaf-vet
(7,761 posts)BumRushDaShow....thanks again for the knowledgeable extended response.
And the smile and chuckle to start my Sunday morning.
BumRushDaShow
(166,260 posts)I wonder if any other idiots are doing the same like this guy's buddy, Loopy Gohmert (who is also appealing the initial fine) and are still trying to walk around it? I haven't heard whether Gohmert tried again and got slapped with the additional $10,000 like this one apparently did.
Could be that Clyde (who is a brand new member) is going to be the guinea pig (GOP low-hanging fruit, IOW, the sacrificial pawn).
usaf-vet
(7,761 posts)I would bet Nancy Pelosi isn't losing any sleep over this issue.
machoneman
(4,128 posts)...Supreme Court, it will be quickly dismissed, The House as noted above has unlimited power to police its own members.
MichMan
(16,718 posts)BumRushDaShow
(166,260 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,284 posts)and even then he can only quote the second part. He also has no knowledge or understanding of the historical context of why that amendment was made to the Constitution.
Typical right-wing dork. He's going to end up paying the fines -- which are taken directly from his salary -- plus attorney fees for hiring a civilian attorney to bring a personal lawsuit.
marble falls
(71,226 posts)George McGovern
(11,019 posts)"There's no constitutional right to endanger other peoples safety you idiot." Amen to that. Thank You.
The_Counsel
(1,756 posts)...i.e., set it's own rules?
Didn't Clyde agree to said rules?
And even if he didn't vote for them, the majority did...so what are ya doin', Andrew?
BobTheSubgenius
(12,172 posts)Maybe sue the FAA or Homeland, you imbecile.
cstanleytech
(28,255 posts)C Moon
(13,503 posts)elias7
(4,229 posts)Never has a group of such ingenuous people been allowed to get away with such utter BS. But theyve turned the environment into a sport, and youre either with us or against us and never root (or vote) for the rival team. History will mark this time, but that doesnt do us much good now.
Much like climate change. Theyre against it, lie about it, convince their minions to fight against it, until its all too late. Then theyll all say they were for it and the Democrats blocked us from doing something about it.
Marcuse
(8,818 posts)Botany
(76,498 posts)
UGADawg
(501 posts)I live in the middle of it.
ancianita
(43,005 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)Aussie105
(7,668 posts)Now, where do I order a 'zzapp' and how much does it cost?
turbinetree
(27,033 posts)another fucking right wing fascist law breaker.........