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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(133,247 posts)
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:24 PM Mar 2021

Suing Nancy Pelosi Was Reason for Sidestepping House Metal Detectors, Says GOP's Andrew Clyde

Source: Newsweek

Georgia congressman Andrew Clyde announced plans to sue House Speaker Nancy Pelosi after he was fined $15,000 for bypassing metal detectors to enter the Capitol.

In February, House Democrats passed a rule saying that lawmakers would be fined $5,000 for refusing to go through metal detectors outside of congressional chambers. Lawmakers who refuse again would be fined an additional $10,000. The metal detectors were put in place as an additional security precaution following the January 6 riot, where supporters of former President Donald Trump invaded the Capitol building. Lawmakers are given 30 calendar days or five legislative days to appeal the fine to the House Ethics Committee.

Clyde has broken the rule twice and told Fox News on Saturday that he did so with the plan to try to sue the House Speaker. "I did that so we would have legal standing to take the case to federal court, and that's exactly what I'm going to do," he told Fox.

Clyde said that getting fined was part of his strategy in fighting the rule, and he is prepared for a legal battle. "I'm all teed up to do that. People have to stand for the Constitution. And if I have to get fined in order to give me a legal standing to do that then I'll be fined," he told the network.



Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/suing-nancy-pelosi-was-reason-for-sidestepping-house-metal-detectors-says-gops-andrew-clyde/ar-BB1eNjYz?li=BBnb7Kz



There's no constitutional right to endanger other peoples safety you idiot.
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Suing Nancy Pelosi Was Reason for Sidestepping House Metal Detectors, Says GOP's Andrew Clyde (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 OP
This dim bulb owns a GD gun store. CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #1
I'm concerned... robleb Mar 2021 #11
I THOUGHT THAT, TOO! CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #15
Cranially, at the least. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #25
He is so dim that he hasn't got a clue....says Stu... Stuart G Mar 2021 #13
What a stooge... AZ8theist Mar 2021 #16
With all respect, if you're going to mock Moran Man Lord Ludd Mar 2021 #22
Ooops! Thanks...didn't notice that!! AZ8theist Mar 2021 #23
Not to mention "its' " catrose Mar 2021 #27
Confused... Wuddles440 Mar 2021 #42
AZ8's original post used "it's" /nt Lord Ludd Mar 2021 #44
Suspected that may have been the case. Wuddles440 Mar 2021 #47
Thank gawd you got right on that. It was traumatic for some of us. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #51
Always glad to provide relief if I can. Lord Ludd Mar 2021 #52
They passed a rule. That's the rule. soothsayer Mar 2021 #2
Some people don't understand how democracy works Major Nikon Mar 2021 #29
Good luck nimrod- even SCOTUS doesn't have jurisdiction over congressional procedures Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #3
What an absolute asshole. And proud of it. Next time, cuff and stuff his ass. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #4
So I suspect taxpayers ( you and me) will pay his lawyers rurallib Mar 2021 #5
That's the point, he hasn't any. He's a republican...His whole existence is based on using your tax Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #6
Eat my Grits Clyde. Tommymac Mar 2021 #7
Oh good! I won't have to go thru metal detectors anymore. JohnnyRingo Mar 2021 #8
The courts are absolutely not going to be involved WhiteTara Mar 2021 #9
Pretty certain the House could pass a rule that Republicans must bow to the Speaker upon entering MichMan Mar 2021 #37
He might as well try to sue God for raining on his picnic. patphil Mar 2021 #10
The Democratic Reps should all enter a class action suit against Andrew Clyde FakeNoose Mar 2021 #12
The article has an incorrect statement. The rule wasn't passed by "House Democrats", it was passed.. George II Mar 2021 #14
Newsweek should retract statement. That's a blatant error. elias7 Mar 2021 #46
His skidmarks are smarter than he is. Talitha Mar 2021 #17
U.S. CONSTITUTION BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #18
Glad to take his $15,000. Eleven more trips and the taxpayers will recover his yearly salary. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #32
As a related sidenote to that Article/Section/Clause BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #35
I'm pretty sure that the Congressman spent $15K for naught, as pointed out with icing on the cake. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #36
I'm glad his ass is getting his salary docked! BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #39
We all should wonder about the intelligence of some of the voters in this country. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #41
Yes! Take-His-Money! Geez, what a dumbshit. Even if this somehow makes it to the... machoneman Mar 2021 #43
They should pass a rule that all Republicans have to donate $$ to the DNC every day upon entering MichMan Mar 2021 #38
They are probably already claiming the fines are going directly to the DNC as their latest "CT". BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #40
The only part of the Constitution that this smuck can recite is the Second Amendment, LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2021 #19
... marble falls Mar 2021 #20
Indeed George McGovern Mar 2021 #21
Doesn't Article I Give Each House the Right to Govern Itself...? The_Counsel Mar 2021 #24
Apparently, the Constitution isn't allowing you to get on airplanes with a gun. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #26
Courts have little to no say in how the House conducts its internal business. cstanleytech Mar 2021 #28
$15,000? Ouch. That's "gun" a hurt. Dumb ass. C Moon Mar 2021 #30
"Stand up for the Constitution" - the latest BS Republican meme elias7 Mar 2021 #31
Fine him and suspend him for the day. $15k is pocket change for some grifters. Marcuse Mar 2021 #33
"People have to stand for the Constitution." The stupid is strong with this one Obie Wan Kanbe. Botany Mar 2021 #34
Clyde's district is next to Marjorie Taylor Greene's and UGADawg Mar 2021 #45
Guess he'll fuck around and find out. ancianita Mar 2021 #48
There aren't any nice things I want to happen to him. LiberalFighter Mar 2021 #49
A great target for the Space Lasers! Aussie105 Mar 2021 #50
Expel the asshole...seriously strip of his committee assignments......... turbinetree Mar 2021 #53

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
13. He is so dim that he hasn't got a clue....says Stu...
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:54 PM
Mar 2021

He is blue,
And in a shoe,
And hasn't got a clue,
And is a total fool.....

It ain't perfect....but at least I tried...Thank You....

AZ8theist

(7,113 posts)
16. What a stooge...
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:13 PM
Mar 2021

The House sets its own rules. You want to be a member, you have to follow them.



AND OF COURSE THIS ANTI-AMERICAN FACSIST SCUMBAG VOTED FOR DICTATORSHIP OVER DEMOCRACY

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/electoral-college-biden-objectors.html

Lord Ludd

(585 posts)
22. With all respect, if you're going to mock Moran Man
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:31 PM
Mar 2021

please brush up on the proper use of "its" & "it's".

Wuddles440

(1,986 posts)
42. Confused...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:02 AM
Mar 2021

as it appears that the post did properly use "its" as possessive and not as the contraction "it's" for "it is" or "it has".

Lord Ludd

(585 posts)
52. Always glad to provide relief if I can.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:06 PM
Mar 2021

Keep going, please; I love dueling ironies & sarcasms. Very Buckley-Vidal.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
29. Some people don't understand how democracy works
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 11:33 PM
Mar 2021

Then you have those who are fucking stupid enough to cite the Constitution on the subject without ever bothering to read the first article, specifically section 5.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,222 posts)
3. Good luck nimrod- even SCOTUS doesn't have jurisdiction over congressional procedures
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:31 PM
Mar 2021

Pelosi can ignore any ruling from any judge.

rurallib

(64,573 posts)
5. So I suspect taxpayers ( you and me) will pay his lawyers
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:42 PM
Mar 2021

and filing fees etc.

If he had any honor he would pay for it himself.

Ford_Prefect

(8,518 posts)
6. That's the point, he hasn't any. He's a republican...His whole existence is based on using your tax
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:55 PM
Mar 2021

money to do whatever he wants to.

No rules or domestic laws apply to him or his kind. According to GOP dogma they are only there to inconvenience Democrats.

JohnnyRingo

(20,553 posts)
8. Oh good! I won't have to go thru metal detectors anymore.
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:06 PM
Mar 2021

I believe that's what he's suing for. They might as well start taking them out of the airports and courts now because this lawsuit is a shoe-in.

He doesn't think he's suing so he personally doesn't have to go through metal detectors, does he?
He should talk to his mentor Louis Gohmert first.

WhiteTara

(31,199 posts)
9. The courts are absolutely not going to be involved
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:23 PM
Mar 2021

The House is separate and equal to the courts and can set any dang rule they want. Cool thing about this rule is that it's an automatic deduction for his paycheck.

MichMan

(16,718 posts)
37. Pretty certain the House could pass a rule that Republicans must bow to the Speaker upon entering
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:39 AM
Mar 2021

patphil

(8,746 posts)
10. He might as well try to sue God for raining on his picnic.
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:25 PM
Mar 2021

Just about as much chance of winning.
Where does the Republican Party find these idiots anyway?

FakeNoose

(40,364 posts)
12. The Democratic Reps should all enter a class action suit against Andrew Clyde
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:53 PM
Mar 2021

What gives him the right to endanger the lives of the Democratic Congressmen? What enables him to ignore the metal detector rule that everyone else obeys every day? Let him explain to the federal judge why he's more important than all the other representatives.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. The article has an incorrect statement. The rule wasn't passed by "House Democrats", it was passed..
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:56 PM
Mar 2021

....by the House. That the republicans didn't vote for it was incidental, they could have.

And that law suit will last about as long as trump's election fraud lawsuits.

elias7

(4,229 posts)
46. Newsweek should retract statement. That's a blatant error.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 10:59 AM
Mar 2021

Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi has nothing to do with. It’s like holding Hillary Clinton responsible for Benghazi, and the press not hammering the point home that certain leaders are dead wrong.

BumRushDaShow

(166,260 posts)
18. U.S. CONSTITUTION
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:17 PM
Mar 2021
Article I

(snip)

Section 5.

Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

(emphasis mine)

THE END.

They should recall him to active duty and court martial him for dumbassery and then put that MBA in the trash. It's useless.

usaf-vet

(7,761 posts)
32. Glad to take his $15,000. Eleven more trips and the taxpayers will recover his yearly salary.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 07:47 AM
Mar 2021

as "BumRushDsShow" above pointed out......

Just a little close to home. They don't even know what they are taking the oath for. And it is not just the Second Amendment... period.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-1/section-5/clause-1/

BumRushDaShow

(166,260 posts)
35. As a related sidenote to that Article/Section/Clause
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:25 AM
Mar 2021

When President Obama attempted to do a Recess appointment of several positions - notably head of the CFPB and a couple NLRB members - because the argument was that despite the Senate doing "Pro-forma" sessions (gaveling in every 3 days and then eventually adjourning subject to the call of the chair within about 5 minutes after the benediction & pledge of allegiance), that they really weren't "in session" doing any legislating (no one was ever there), so they were basically "in recess".

Well the GOP had a fit (anything to thwart Obama), sued, and it went all the way to the SCOTUS (National Labor Relations Board v. Noel Canning) - which unanimously ruled against Obama (although with slightly differing opinions about the details) -

Supreme Court rebukes Obama on recess appointments

By Robert Barnes
June 26, 2014

The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in making high-level government appointments in 2012 when he declared the Senate to be in recess and unable to act on the nominations. Obama made appointments to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) at a time when the Senate was holding pro forma sessions every three days precisely to thwart the president’s ability to exercise the power.

“The Senate is in session when it says it is,” Justice Stephen G. Breyer wrote for the court, stressing that if the Senate is able to conduct business, that is enough to keep the president from making recess appointments.

(snip)

The justices employed Founding-era documents and the long history of recess appointments — there have been thousands of them — to interpret the Constitution’s Recess Clause. It says the president “shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate.”

(snip)

It was the question of pro forma sessions that had prompted the case. Senate Democrats started such sessions in 2007 to prevent President George W. Bush from making recess appointments. Despite encouragement from his advisers to challenge the legitimacy of the sessions, he declined.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-rebukes-obama-on-recess-appointments/2014/06/26/e5e4fefa-e831-11e3-a86b-362fd5443d19_story.html


In Shrub's case, I believe it was due to installing Bolton as the U.S. Representative to the U.N. via a Recess Appointment (which is temporary until the end of a Congressional session) and that atrocity prompted the then-Democratic-controlled Senate to institute the "Pro-forma" sessions via a Rule, and that Rule has remained ever since. Anyone who is a CSPAN junky can watch those brief "sessions" on CSPAN2 when the Senate is "away" (including during extended holidays or "District work periods" ) where someone volunteers (often the local and/or close-by members) to gavel them in briefly, go through the motions of "Morning Business", and then go into recess "Subject to the Call of the Chair".

Basically, the Senate made its own "Rules" (allowance for "Pro-forma" sessions) and defined what that meant (every 3 days, since there is a mention in the Constitution in that same Article 1/Section 5 with that time frame, and that is what they used) -

Article I

(snip)

Section 5.

(snip)

Neither House, during the session of Congress, shall, without the consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

usaf-vet

(7,761 posts)
36. I'm pretty sure that the Congressman spent $15K for naught, as pointed out with icing on the cake.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:34 AM
Mar 2021

BumRushDaShow....thanks again for the knowledgeable extended response.

And the smile and chuckle to start my Sunday morning.

BumRushDaShow

(166,260 posts)
39. I'm glad his ass is getting his salary docked!
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:42 AM
Mar 2021


I wonder if any other idiots are doing the same like this guy's buddy, Loopy Gohmert (who is also appealing the initial fine) and are still trying to walk around it? I haven't heard whether Gohmert tried again and got slapped with the additional $10,000 like this one apparently did.

Could be that Clyde (who is a brand new member) is going to be the guinea pig (GOP low-hanging fruit, IOW, the sacrificial pawn).

usaf-vet

(7,761 posts)
41. We all should wonder about the intelligence of some of the voters in this country.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:50 AM
Mar 2021

I would bet Nancy Pelosi isn't losing any sleep over this issue.

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
43. Yes! Take-His-Money! Geez, what a dumbshit. Even if this somehow makes it to the...
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:08 AM
Mar 2021

...Supreme Court, it will be quickly dismissed, The House as noted above has unlimited power to police its own members.

MichMan

(16,718 posts)
38. They should pass a rule that all Republicans have to donate $$ to the DNC every day upon entering
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:41 AM
Mar 2021

BumRushDaShow

(166,260 posts)
40. They are probably already claiming the fines are going directly to the DNC as their latest "CT".
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:44 AM
Mar 2021
19. The only part of the Constitution that this smuck can recite is the Second Amendment,
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:19 PM
Mar 2021

and even then he can only quote the second part. He also has no knowledge or understanding of the historical context of why that amendment was made to the Constitution.

Typical right-wing dork. He's going to end up paying the fines -- which are taken directly from his salary -- plus attorney fees for hiring a civilian attorney to bring a personal lawsuit.

George McGovern

(11,019 posts)
21. Indeed
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:30 PM
Mar 2021

"There's no constitutional right to endanger other peoples safety you idiot." Amen to that. Thank You.

The_Counsel

(1,756 posts)
24. Doesn't Article I Give Each House the Right to Govern Itself...?
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:36 PM
Mar 2021

...i.e., set it's own rules?

Didn't Clyde agree to said rules?

And even if he didn't vote for them, the majority did...so what are ya doin', Andrew?

BobTheSubgenius

(12,172 posts)
26. Apparently, the Constitution isn't allowing you to get on airplanes with a gun.
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:48 PM
Mar 2021

Maybe sue the FAA or Homeland, you imbecile.

elias7

(4,229 posts)
31. "Stand up for the Constitution" - the latest BS Republican meme
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 06:13 AM
Mar 2021

Never has a group of such ingenuous people been allowed to get away with such utter BS. But they’ve turned the environment into a sport, and “you’re either with us or against us” and never root (or vote) for the rival team. History will mark this time, but that doesn’t do us much good now.

Much like climate change. They’re against it, lie about it, convince their minions to fight against it, until it’s all too late. Then they’ll all say they were for it and the Democrats blocked us from doing something about it.

Botany

(76,498 posts)
34. "People have to stand for the Constitution." The stupid is strong with this one Obie Wan Kanbe.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:14 AM
Mar 2021

turbinetree

(27,033 posts)
53. Expel the asshole...seriously strip of his committee assignments.........
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 08:24 AM
Mar 2021

another fucking right wing fascist law breaker.........

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