S. Carolina senator suggests everyone be made militia member

[turbinetree]

Source: Mooresville Tribune

By JEFFREY COLLINS Associated Press Mar 23, 2021 Updated 1 hr ago

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A South Carolina senator has a proposal to make sure no federal law can ever seize guns — make everyone over 17 who can legally own a gun a member of a militia.

South Carolina's constitution allows the governor to call up an “unorganized militia" of any “able bodied male citizens” between ages 18 and 45. State Sen. Tom Corbin's proposal would automatically expand membership to everyone who is over 17 and could own a gun.

Supporters of the bill said if everyone is a member of a militia, then they all fall under the opening clause of the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution that starts “A well regulated Militia." That way a federal law restricting weapons would not apply in South Carolina since almost all residents would be in the unorganized militia.

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Does everyone in this stupid country fully understand what the word "Militia" means and why the second amendment should be removed from the Constitution ...........

https://machimon.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/origins-of-the-second-amendent-runaway-slave-patrols/

[Bristlecone]

1. Will they be well regulated then?

[stopdiggin]

13. well .. THAT'S going to slow them down a bit!

Can you just imagine all the mopes? Half of which still live with mommy -- and can't find their shoes in the morning -- if it is still morning ....? Oh -- this is just going to be -- precious!

(another superbly thought out plan -- by the GOP and the Church of the 2nd Amend)
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[PSPS]

2. These fetishists are the death of us all

[hack89]

3. Why not simply remove it?

Just get the votes and get it done.

[Grokenstein]

4. Nothing says "freedom" like mandatory military conscription.

Let me guess: I'd still have to buy my own bang-bang, wouldn't I.

[Mr.Bill]

38. And that's how every Democratic official needs to frame it.

Call it the "Mandatory Draft for everyone bill".

[msongs]

5. unorganized does not sound like well regulated at least to me nt

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Conscription without authorization

and just because you could doesn't mean you are or will and definitely not well-regulated if not uniformed, drilled, provisioned, and orderly. They couldn't play baseball let alone paintball.

[BobsYourUncle]

27. I think of this every time I hear 'paintball'

A local business owner, successful, has a frequently seen fleet of service trucks, was off for a weekend of dress-up and war games ended up with a rifle bullet in his neck instead of a hickey from a paintball. The guy with the rifle, a LEO, now ‘former’, didn’t turn in the rifle after the morning target range play-time. The local is still alive and still has the souvenir from the weekend, totally paralyzed. Probably had this grand vision of the well regulated militia.

[nykym]

7. If they regulate the militia

then no one would come.

[BobsYourUncle]

28. I do believe that! NT

[bluestarone]

8. These CIVIL WAR types are out to

DESTROY our country! They infiltrated our government, police, and courts. Gonna be hard to get rid of them, BUT we need to!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!

[MarcA]

16. Exactly. Replace democracy with oligarchy by any means.

They should know this is what their actions lead to, and many of them do.

[HUAJIAO]

9. "WHITE TRASH, THE 400-YEAR UNTOLD HISTORY OF CLASS IN AMERICA,"

My recent reading would indicate that the 2nd Amendment was, at least in part, a sop to Southern states to insure whites could have guns to control the black population-
"WHITE TRASH, THE 400-YEAR UNTOLD HISTORY OF CLASS IN AMERICA," Nancy Isenberg.

I could be wrong....

[ancianita]

26. +1000

That was a great book. It proved that the tories of the South exhibited their European forebears' racism along with classism.

No, you're not wrong. Remember how it showed that the Irish were set up to be the first "rangers" in the west to clear land for settlers? It was just one example of how racist/classist leaders organized more than one nexus of race and class by pitting a white "immigrant" class against another race. Then later, of course, the KKK and now the christo-fascist neonazi trumpcult.

[HUAJIAO]

37. I haven't gotten that far yet.. just first chapter or two.. A real eye opener for me...

[ancianita]

39. So glad you're reading it. It was a page turner for me.

I use a pen with non-fiction, which helps me remember so much that's new. Just the fact that Jamestown and Plymouth were corporate projects by the crown both blew our old history up, along with my mind.

[HUAJIAO]

40. I bought the book used on Amazon.

It's in good shape and has the nice smell as if it was read by a modern day hippy..

[riversedge]

10. The 2nd amend sould be removed so that dangerous men like Repug State Sen. Tom Corbin

would be put out to pasture!! I am being nice.

[turbinetree]

23. I am tired of being nice

[Griefbird]

11. Sounds like something a 9-year-old would say

Hey guys, what if everybody was in the militia. Cool.

[Judi Lynn]

12. SC Senator Known For Calling Women 'A Lesser Cut Of Meat' Won Primary

It’s been a while since we’ve reported on Tom Corbin…

Published 10 months ago on June 10, 2020
By Mandy Matney





A South Carolina senator who is known for making outlandishly sexist comments won in his Republican primary election Tuesday.

Tom Corbin, a Republican from Travelers Rest, S.C, won the primary for South Carolina District Five, which covers parts of Greenville and Spartanburg counties in the Upstate.

. . .

Also on Corbin’s resume while serving the people of Spartanburg and Greenville counties:

He voted against removing the Confederate flag at the statehouse in 2015.

When discussing abortion, he said “a woman always has a right to choose at the time of conception?” (WHAT?!?!)

When speaking on Common Core education, he reportedly once told the only female senator (Shealy) to leave the room, before he made his comment. She didn’t, and then he went on to tell a story about a public school teacher and “gay man juice.”

Not only is Corbin notorious for his outrageous remarks, he’s also known for stealing his colleagues’ Chick-fil-A sandwiches.

. . .

https://www.fitsnews.com/2020/06/10/sc-senator-known-for-calling-women-a-lesser-cut-of-meat-won-primary/

[NCjack]

14. Every fake "militia" person should be conscripted into special

labor militias, that will also serve as "last resort" combat militias for the case in which our regular combat army is defeated in a war.

As labor militias, they would clean up battlefields, rehabilitate military training grounds, clean up large burned forest lands, etc.

The labor militias, in my model, would wear attractive pink uniforms and purple boots.

[NCjack]

15. Every fake "militia" person should be conscripted into special

labor militias, that will also serve as "last resort" combat militias for the case in which our regular combat army is defeated in a war.

As labor militias, they would clean up battlefields, rehabilitate military training grounds, clean up large burned forest lands, etc.

The labor militias, in my model, would wear attractive pink uniforms and purple boots.

[yourmovemonkey]

17. Wouldn't that be compulsory military service?

So he wants to send every single healthy young person in the state to boot camp?

Doesn't SC already have a National Guard?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

18. This 'idea' was already tried long ago, back when the 2nd Amendment was properly understood

I.E. well before the freaking bullshit that was Heller, in the 21st Century.

Federal Courts (perhaps SCOTUS, not positive offhand) have already said ... ummm ... no.

To even propose this pretty much shows the world that you're an idiot with no knowledge of US history and jurisprudence.

[Raven123]

19. So admitting the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms is limited within the Constitution?

[modrepub]

21. Auto Registration For Militia, No Auto Registration to Vote

Guns over voting. Got it.

Given the state in question, I wouldn't be surprised if they put something in there to prevent the sale of bullets to certain groups of (undesirable) people. You know like before the Civil Rights act and the voter drives in the early 1960s how certain segments didn't bother registering to vote for fear of hooded figures showing up at all hours of the night.

[keithbvadu2]

22. Tom, your evangelist mass killer of several Asian women would have been a member.

Tom, your evangelist mass killer of several Asian women would have been a member.

[Ford_Prefect]

24. Even the current SCOTUS would have problems with his interpretation. The history and application of

the term have been argued in other venues. The Purpose and Requirement to belong would both be challenged and likely overturned since South Carolina is under no existential threat which such a militia would be required to answer. Nor is it likely to be so, what with the establishment of the US Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force for exactly that purpose...And then there is the question of what exactly is the SC National Guard configured to do.

I believe the state also lacks the authority to declare US citizens to be so conscripted against their will. In another case of inflated EGO gets the better of legal due process Imperial Idiocracy strikes again.

[ad121rome]

25. Quickest way for gun control

Here’s a suggestion, if we want to pass effective gun control laws we simply start giving guns away to citizens of color, immigrants, females and Muslims. The Right Wing gun nuts would fall all over themselves writing legislation forbidding it.

[BobTheSubgenius]

30. What I'm wondering about is....what would the NRA think about that?

My guess? Conflicted.

Welcome to DU.

[BobTheSubgenius]

29. Oh, for the love of God.

Holy shit. I bet this has way more support than it should.

[Historic NY]

31. Good POTUS can Federalize them and ship them to a country of their dreams...

Somalia

[twodogsbarking]

32. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons

Aldous Huxley

[AZLD4Candidate]

33. Well, that's an interesting gundamentalist view on sidestepping even the most watered down

gun laws.

Surprised they haven't said that registering for the selective service makes you a member of a well-regulated militia.

It's just as ludicrous.

[Evolve Dammit]

34. Go ahead senator. Start your own militia. Safety on, watch your back and don't shoot yourself. nt

[Marcuse]

35. Let's make everyone over eighteen a registered voter instead.

[Gore1FL]

36. I am sure a draft would be popular....

I can't wait for him to introduce the legislation.

[Martin68]

41. The logical conclusion to which gun nut logic leads.

So is this guy a "textualist?"

[BlueMTexpat]

42. I always thought

that the National Guard was basically the equivalent of a well-regulated militia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Guard

From the link:

...
Local militias were formed from the earliest English colonization of the Americas in 1607. The first colony-wide militia was formed by Massachusetts in 1636 by merging small older local units, and several National Guard units can be traced back to this militia. The various colonial militias became state militias when the United States became independent. The title "National Guard" was used in 1824 by some New York State militia units, named after the French National Guard in honor of the Marquis de Lafayette. "National Guard" became a standard nationwide militia title in 1903, and specifically indicated reserve forces under mixed state and federal control since 1933.
...

As is so often the case, this GQPer doesn't know the history of the US at all.