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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:55 AM Mar 2021

Secret Service tried to cover up incident involving Hunter Biden's gun - report

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by DonViejo (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: The Guardian

The US Secret Service sought to cover up a bizarre incident in which a gun belonging to to Hunter Biden was dumped in a trash can behind a grocery store then found to be missing, the website Politico reported on Thursday.

Delaware police were concerned the gun, a .38 revolver, could be found and used in a crime, the website said, adding that it was eventually found by a man rummaging the trash for recycling. The Secret Service reportedly approached the store where the gun was purchased, seeking to obtain all records of the transaction. The owner reportedly declined.

...

Politico said it had obtained copies of records relating to Hunter Biden’s purchase of the gun, on 12 October 2018. It said he answered “no” to a question about unlawful use or addiction to “marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance”.

“Five years earlier,” the website said, “he had been discharged from the US navy reserve after testing positive for cocaine, and he and family members have spoken about his history of drug use.

“Lying on the form is a felony, though prosecutions for it are exceedingly rare.”



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/25/hunter-biden-gun-cover-up-secret-service

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Secret Service tried to cover up incident involving Hunter Biden's gun - report (Original Post) Calista241 Mar 2021 OP
the Secret Service would not have any involvement at the time, they have no record of it, soothsayer Mar 2021 #1
The only gun in the country that Glen Beck and Politico are concerned with. FalloutShelter Mar 2021 #2
I don't think they honestly care about the gun, they care about not prosecuting Biden's kid Calista241 Mar 2021 #4
They're a one trick pony with fake nooz about that private citizen soothsayer Mar 2021 #6
You are falling for the game here ScratchCat Mar 2021 #10
seriously stillcool Mar 2021 #11
Except Hunter probably didn't lie GregariousGroundhog Mar 2021 #17
Very odd for the Guardian not to require proof, even slim proof, of the Blaze's allegations. machoneman Mar 2021 #43
The guardian has become nothing more than a salacious grocery store tabloid PortTack Mar 2021 #51
I'm on the verge of cancelling my subscription. Mickju Mar 2021 #55
Guardian seems to have moved into some form of a tabloid. Steelrolled Mar 2021 #57
Good comment. n/t EndlessWire Mar 2021 #56
In other words there is no story, but Hunter Biden has been out of the news for too long. George II Mar 2021 #22
In other words, Joe had a press conference scheduled for today soothsayer Mar 2021 #26
Right. Sadly, though, they wasted questions on other stupidity (did you hear Kaitlin Collins?) George II Mar 2021 #29
Yes soothsayer Mar 2021 #35
Was she the one that asked about him running again tinymontgomery Mar 2021 #42
What is up with the Guardian, ffs. ancianita Mar 2021 #33
And queue the right wing rage machine in 3...2...1.... Moostache Mar 2021 #3
Oh don't worry, I'm sure the email has already been written and sent out to the likes of.... George II Mar 2021 #24
Politico has no way to obtain those forms ScratchCat Mar 2021 #5
He better resign his elected office right this very minute. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #7
Of course the rethugs lie ALL THE TIME MOMFUDSKI Mar 2021 #8
you are wrong.. stillcool Mar 2021 #12
Hmmm..... moose65 Mar 2021 #25
Do you actually believe that story? Enjoy your stay. brush Mar 2021 #36
You're wrong. ShazzieB Mar 2021 #41
So convenient that this would break.. luvs2sing Mar 2021 #9
+1 2naSalit Mar 2021 #13
Stuff always breaks at the most inconvenient time. Calista241 Mar 2021 #15
so that RW cable could use a distraction to compete with the presser ancianita Mar 2021 #34
Before or after liberalgunwilltravel Mar 2021 #14
Yes, and how and why did the gun in up in trash bin behind a store? brush Mar 2021 #40
It wasn't a laptop, it was a MacBook with the LG logo on it! They even screwed up that story! George II Mar 2021 #49
If it's a Politico "article" that this one is based upon, why not use the Politico report? George II Mar 2021 #16
His gun is in a dumpster behind a grocery store, his laptop is left behind at a tiny repair shop. mwb970 Mar 2021 #18
Why would the Guardian report that Politico reported something IronLionZion Mar 2021 #19
That's what I was wondering, and is this truly a new development? George II Mar 2021 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Mar 2021 #20
"The Hunting of Hunter Biden" by Gene Lyons and Joe Conason. Available oasis Mar 2021 #23
No kidding. And this time, it's not even the actual person running or serving as president. deurbano Mar 2021 #31
Isn't it ironic? ShazzieB Mar 2021 #44
Seems some people need to be sued. LiberalFighter Mar 2021 #27
So they're in favor of gun control for Hunter Biden? gldstwmn Mar 2021 #28
Question 21 e on the Federal Firearms Transaction record ask: Are you an unlawful user ... Jim__ Mar 2021 #30
Shame on the guardian for picking this up, and for politico for reporting it at all. ColinC Mar 2021 #32
Bullshit story laundering: Blaze - Politico - Guardian lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #37
Did they find a hard drive in the trash too? durablend Mar 2021 #38
Here we go again. More RW gossip dressed up with a headline on MSM front page to distract us from Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #39
Why are we discussing something that is obviously completely made up? yourmovemonkey Mar 2021 #45
Clickbait prodem65 Mar 2021 #46
And we are supposed to believe Mr.Bill Mar 2021 #47
Cute story. louis-t Mar 2021 #48
So Politico...being the trusted news worthy org (BIG SNARK) spreads this story PortTack Mar 2021 #50
Meh. marble falls Mar 2021 #52
It will be an interesting investigation Warpy Mar 2021 #53
We know that some of the Secret Service were on Team Trump. pnwmom Mar 2021 #54
Locking... DonViejo Mar 2021 #58

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
1. the Secret Service would not have any involvement at the time, they have no record of it,
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:00 PM
Mar 2021

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Matt Negrin, HOST OF HARDBALL AT 7PM ON MSNBC
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Mar 25, 2021
helo I look for unconfirmed hit pieces on hunter biden by scrolling through glenn beck’s conspiracy theory website should I add that to the story



Maria Theresa
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Gee, it’s such a mystery - the Secret Service would not have any involvement at the time, they have no record of it, & only Glenn Beck’s site has spoken to it, but, hey, let’s include in our reporting

FalloutShelter

(11,849 posts)
2. The only gun in the country that Glen Beck and Politico are concerned with.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:01 PM
Mar 2021

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
4. I don't think they honestly care about the gun, they care about not prosecuting Biden's kid
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:16 PM
Mar 2021

For lying on the background check form (if what the article says about the form is true).

Expanding these Background checks are a major part of the Dem gun safety legislation. Can we still be taken seriously on this subject if we let it slide because he’s a Biden?

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
6. They're a one trick pony with fake nooz about that private citizen
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:19 PM
Mar 2021

Ridiculous

ScratchCat

(1,981 posts)
10. You are falling for the game here
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:50 PM
Mar 2021

The idea that Hunter lied on the federal form is what they have dreamed up. FIVE YEARS before he bought the gun, he was discharged from the reserves for a positive cocaine test. Five years prior.

What they are doing is this:

Start with: "Hey, this guy bought a gun and has also in the past claimed to have had drug addiction problems..... "

Pivot to an alleged incident that may be in Hunter's upcoming book..

Then jump to the illogical conclusion that "The Secret Service" interfered into a non-existent investigation pertaining to the federal form Biden would have filled out when he purchased the gun because ....... he wasn't prosecuted for "lying on the form" based upon the idea that he has "had drug addiction issues in the past". Because the Delaware State Police, upon discovering that Hunter Biden owns a firearm, should have forwarded that information to the DOJ(Trump's DOJ) and Biden should have been prosecuted for "lying" in October of 2018 because of a positive cocaine test in 2013.

See what they are doing?

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
11. seriously
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:57 PM
Mar 2021

How about that laptop? It's kind of stunning that at this point, anyone would believe any of this crap, but every minute. Sad.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,518 posts)
17. Except Hunter probably didn't lie
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:07 PM
Mar 2021

Hunter was administratively discharged from the military, but that is not the same as being criminally charged in a civilian court nor being court martialed in the military.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
43. Very odd for the Guardian not to require proof, even slim proof, of the Blaze's allegations.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:46 PM
Mar 2021

Sad they stooped to a largely false report.

PortTack

(32,755 posts)
51. The guardian has become nothing more than a salacious grocery store tabloid
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:32 PM
Mar 2021

Not just this story...lots of others

Mickju

(1,803 posts)
55. I'm on the verge of cancelling my subscription.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:16 PM
Mar 2021

They have been putting out more and more bullshit since Biden became President. I guess since Bernie didn't become President they have to denigrate the man who defeated him.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
57. Guardian seems to have moved into some form of a tabloid.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:59 PM
Mar 2021

EndlessWire

(6,513 posts)
56. Good comment. n/t
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:04 PM
Mar 2021

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. In other words there is no story, but Hunter Biden has been out of the news for too long.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:22 PM
Mar 2021

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
26. In other words, Joe had a press conference scheduled for today
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:39 PM
Mar 2021

Guess what! No reporters wasted a question on this stupidity. Progress!

George II

(67,782 posts)
29. Right. Sadly, though, they wasted questions on other stupidity (did you hear Kaitlin Collins?)
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:47 PM
Mar 2021

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
35. Yes
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:17 PM
Mar 2021

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
42. Was she the one that asked about him running again
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:32 PM
Mar 2021

and that by this time the other guy already had filed. Does he think he’ll be running against the other guy?
I also like he corrected the reporter that said so he is running, he put her right down for not listening to what he said.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
33. What is up with the Guardian, ffs.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:14 PM
Mar 2021

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
3. And queue the right wing rage machine in 3...2...1....
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:05 PM
Mar 2021

Anyone want to bet how many times this leads Hannity's broadcast in the next 6 months? I'm putting the over/under at 100...what do you take? The over? Or the under?

This kind of pap is EXACTLY what the right winger live for...I already want to puke.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. Oh don't worry, I'm sure the email has already been written and sent out to the likes of....
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:25 PM
Mar 2021

Junior, Eric, Steve Guest, Brennan, et. al. for them to tweet en masse before dark. No doubt it'll be the lead story on Tucker's and Hannity's shows tonight.

Will there be a photo or Rudy holding it up, too?

Crap like this is ludicrous, makes me want to puke as well.

ScratchCat

(1,981 posts)
5. Politico has no way to obtain those forms
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:17 PM
Mar 2021

It would be illegal for the retailer to give them to anyone but BATF. Sorry, this is nonsense. The entire thing.

Irish_Dem

(46,922 posts)
7. He better resign his elected office right this very minute.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:20 PM
Mar 2021

Oh wait....

MOMFUDSKI

(5,501 posts)
8. Of course the rethugs lie ALL THE TIME
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:33 PM
Mar 2021

but I have to feel that Hunter IS a fuck-up and Joe and his people better keep a tight leash on that kid. No use giving ammo to the other side. Tell me I am wrong.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
12. you are wrong..
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:01 PM
Mar 2021

The 'other side' makes their ammo. They need no help. But they get it, no matter how many times they pull the same old crap, people fall for it. With no evidence. It's why this country is where it is.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
25. Hmmm.....
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:35 PM
Mar 2021

That "kid" is 51 years old.

brush

(53,764 posts)
36. Do you actually believe that story? Enjoy your stay.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:24 PM
Mar 2021

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
41. You're wrong.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:30 PM
Mar 2021

You said to tell you if you're wrong. You have now been told.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
9. So convenient that this would break..
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 12:50 PM
Mar 2021

just before Biden’s press conference.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
13. +1
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:30 PM
Mar 2021

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
15. Stuff always breaks at the most inconvenient time.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:55 PM
Mar 2021

It's like a rule.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
34. so that RW cable could use a distraction to compete with the presser
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:16 PM
Mar 2021
14. Before or after
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:33 PM
Mar 2021

Did this occur before or after Hunter Biden flew 3,000 miles to drop off his incriminating laptop at some unknown repair shop only to leave it there?

brush

(53,764 posts)
40. Yes, and how and why did the gun in up in trash bin behind a store?
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:29 PM
Mar 2021

Are we to believe Hunter Biden supposedly throw it away like that?

These wingers have come up with more believable stories. And the Hunter Biden vein for their bullshit played out months ago. Haven't they heard? There's no there. Biden won the election months ago.

George II

(67,782 posts)
49. It wasn't a laptop, it was a MacBook with the LG logo on it! They even screwed up that story!
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:27 PM
Mar 2021

The "MacBook"



The invoice:

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. If it's a Politico "article" that this one is based upon, why not use the Politico report?
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:07 PM
Mar 2021

mwb970

(11,358 posts)
18. His gun is in a dumpster behind a grocery store, his laptop is left behind at a tiny repair shop.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:11 PM
Mar 2021

What is with this guy?

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
19. Why would the Guardian report that Politico reported something
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:11 PM
Mar 2021

and Politico reports that The Blaze reported something. Seems lazy.

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. That's what I was wondering, and is this truly a new development?
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:19 PM
Mar 2021

Response to Calista241 (Original post)

oasis

(49,376 posts)
23. "The Hunting of Hunter Biden" by Gene Lyons and Joe Conason. Available
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:24 PM
Mar 2021

soon at local bookstores.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
31. No kidding. And this time, it's not even the actual person running or serving as president.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:52 PM
Mar 2021

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
44. Isn't it ironic?
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:47 PM
Mar 2021

Considering what a gross bunch of garbage people Chump's 3 oldest kids are, isn't it ironic how much the right likes to pick on Biden's oldest (surviving) son?

I guess it says something about Joe's record that Hunter is the only thing they can find to use against him. And even where Hunter is concerned, all they can manage to do is make up lies that are so riddled with holes that the rwnj's are the only ones who believe them. Pathetic.

It must be hard for Hannity and his ilk to have a Democratic president with historically high approval ratings doing a bang-up job. Sucks to be them these days.

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
27. Seems some people need to be sued.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:43 PM
Mar 2021

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
28. So they're in favor of gun control for Hunter Biden?
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:46 PM
Mar 2021

Gee, I wonder who could be behind this?

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
30. Question 21 e on the Federal Firearms Transaction record ask: Are you an unlawful user ...
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 02:50 PM
Mar 2021
Firearms Transaction Record

I'm not sure if that's the question they're referring to, but "are you" seems to ask about at the time of the transaction.

ColinC

(8,289 posts)
32. Shame on the guardian for picking this up, and for politico for reporting it at all.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:09 PM
Mar 2021

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
37. Bullshit story laundering: Blaze - Politico - Guardian
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:24 PM
Mar 2021

Gaining a bit of faux-legitimacy with each echo in the chamber.

The story is entirely bullshit, just like the Giuliani/Stone/Trump Ukraine garbage.

It comes from the same sources.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
38. Did they find a hard drive in the trash too?
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:25 PM
Mar 2021

Ford_Prefect

(7,887 posts)
39. Here we go again. More RW gossip dressed up with a headline on MSM front page to distract us from
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 03:26 PM
Mar 2021

Last edited Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:48 PM - Edit history (1)

much more important matters. I just love the timing and content. Not to mention that the Guardian appears to have been Dan Rathered.

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Edit: I read the politico story and while it reads like journalism I just don't see it being quite what they claim it is. There are a lot of assertions about different actions taken by Hunter and Hallie, along with the owners of the grocery and gun-store. I don't see references to interviews or other statements of attribution that I would expect in such a situation.

It could have gone down as described or in a form like it, I suppose. It's just that the timing of the article's release seems rather related to the current debate on gun control. If I read it correctly this whole thing happened in 2018 and was completed in that time.

So why do the Guardian and Politico publish it now as if it was last week? Where are the independent witnesses with cell phones blazing video, and blog posts asserting they were there? Compare this coverage or any coverage of any part to how "pizza gate" was covered.

yourmovemonkey

(266 posts)
45. Why are we discussing something that is obviously completely made up?
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:02 PM
Mar 2021

This has one "source" with no supporting evidence, and it's just parroted by another source.

 

prodem65

(14 posts)
46. Clickbait
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:04 PM
Mar 2021

This article leads with a sensationalist headline, then dissects a nothing-burger. There's important work to be done. Let's get to it.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
47. And we are supposed to believe
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:16 PM
Mar 2021

a licensed federal firearms dealer refused to cooperate with a Secret Service investigation? An investigation that would actually be conducted by ATF agents?

This has 100% made up story written all over it.

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
48. Cute story.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:17 PM
Mar 2021

The woods (and Republicans) are full of them.

PortTack

(32,755 posts)
50. So Politico...being the trusted news worthy org (BIG SNARK) spreads this story
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:29 PM
Mar 2021

They are horrible!

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
52. Meh.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:53 PM
Mar 2021

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
53. It will be an interesting investigation
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:12 PM
Mar 2021

Maybe a different Hunter Biden? I have an unusual name and there are people with my name all over the country.

Did he buy it because he was contemplating suicide? I see this a lot in people who struggle against addictions, they've all got a plan and some of them have the means. It would be consistent with throwing the gun away in a more lucid moment.

Whatever the story, he gets due process like everybody else.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
54. We know that some of the Secret Service were on Team Trump.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:13 PM
Mar 2021

So maybe the agents who showed up at the gun shop were there unofficially, on behalf of themselves and Trump, and that's why there were no records.

The ATF found nothing of concern because they were doing their jobs, which isn't to do Trump's bidding.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
58. Locking...
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 08:52 AM
Mar 2021

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