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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:42 PM Oct 2012

68 Nobel Prize-Winning Scientists Endorse President Obama’s Science Policies

Source: center for american progress

The Center for American Progress Action Fund today received an open letter co-signed by 68 Nobel laureates in physics, chemistry, and medicine. The letter strongly endorses President Barack Obama’s science policies. “America’s economic future,” the letter begins, “depends on our ability to continue America’s proud legacy of discovery and invention.”

In the letter the Nobel Prize-winning scientists contrast President Obama’s programs to train young Americans in science and technology, strengthen science-based decisionmaking in government, and increase investments in science and innovation, with Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s budget proposal, which would slash these investments. Indeed, according to the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget plan, which Gov. Romney endorsed, would invest fully one-quarter less in nondefense research and development compared to the president’s plan.

“The Nobelists’ commitment to a prosperous future built on innovation is in the finest spirit of the Founding Fathers and expresses a core American value,” said Jonathan D. Moreno, Editor-in-Chief of Science Progress Action and Senior Fellow at CAP Action. “In this time of economic recovery, we must keep our eye on the horizon by investing in the science, technology, education, and workforce we need to stay on the cutting edge and compete in a world economy where success is increasingly determined by our ability to out-invent and out-innovate our competitor nations.

Spanning several generations, the Nobelists are themselves fine examples of how public investments in science lead to a substantial return on our nation’s investment. James Watson, who won the Nobel Prize in 1962 at age 34 for his work on the way DNA and RNA work together to create proteins, is now 84, and Charles Townes, inventor of the precursor to the laser and winner of the prize in 1964, is now 97. Among the most recent winners of the prize is Robert Lefkowitz, who won the prize earlier this month for revealing the inner workings of an important family of receptors that govern how cells in the body communicate with one another.

These are America’s most accomplished scientists, and their discoveries have led to real progress. Without James Watson’s discovery of the structure and function of DNA and RNA, we would not have a biotechnology industry that contributes nearly $1 trillion annually to the U.S. economy. And Charles Townes’s discovery of the maser, which later led to the laser, has touched nearly every industry and countless everyday products, from DVDs to LASIK eye surgery to precision manufacturing.

Read more: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/technology/news/2012/10/17/41914/68-nobel-prize-winning-scientists-endorse-obamas-science-policies/

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68 Nobel Prize-Winning Scientists Endorse President Obama’s Science Policies (Original Post) trailmonkee Oct 2012 OP
Will be denigrated by the RW in 3, 2, 1... freshwest Oct 2012 #1
Kick and R goclark Oct 2012 #2
Good! 'Cause mitthheadLies says the Science about Cha Oct 2012 #3
Which is among existentialist Oct 2012 #8
K&R silverweb Oct 2012 #4
Science! ellisonz Oct 2012 #5
Why did I read that... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #6
Instead of investing in America, rightwingers... Beartracks Oct 2012 #7
science, schmience! central scrutinizer Oct 2012 #9
The REAL Noble prize winners! fujiyama Oct 2012 #10
Contrast 68 Nobels with the Republican Science Committee: Akin, Broun, Rohrabacher Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author JackN415 Oct 2012 #18
have not seen on MSM tv yet... keep up the tweets trailmonkee Oct 2012 #12
"What if it's a big hoax eyewall Oct 2012 #13
Oh Snap! lunatica Oct 2012 #22
It's a great cartoon and an international classic. eyewall Oct 2012 #23
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #14
NY Times: "Among Nobel laureates, President Obama appears to have won by a landslide." bananas Oct 2012 #15
Here's the text of the letter bananas Oct 2012 #16
It's a given. Never a surprise. Democrat is the party of rationalism. JackN415 Oct 2012 #17
It's sad really... JackN415 Oct 2012 #19
Obama probably feels the same way when he has to debate mittens.. trailmonkee Oct 2012 #20
I was thinking, this is a real validation of Obama's choice for Science Advisor, John Holdren bananas Oct 2012 #21
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
6. Why did I read that...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:11 PM
Oct 2012

and hear Thomas Dolby's voice in my head? Now it will be stuck there a while

Beartracks

(14,591 posts)
7. Instead of investing in America, rightwingers...
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:22 PM
Oct 2012

... prefer to invest only in themselves.

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central scrutinizer

(12,654 posts)
9. science, schmience!
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:53 AM
Oct 2012

Joe the plumber is a better economist than any Nobel winner. You can't fool me, I'm too stupid!

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
10. The REAL Noble prize winners!
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:03 AM
Oct 2012

Economics wasn't even one of the original categories, and the Peace Prize is inherently too political to be given much objective value (I mean some of the people that received it - Kissinger? Arafat? And as much as I like Obama, it was barely into his presidency that he got one).

Of course, even in the sciences, there are plenty of disputes regarding the merit of the winner, but it's more difficult for the committee to justify giving it someone that didn't accomplish much...

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #11)

eyewall

(674 posts)
23. It's a great cartoon and an international classic.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:32 PM
Oct 2012

Done during the UN climate change conference which republicans were berating as costly and irrelevant.

worth another look:

bananas

(27,509 posts)
15. NY Times: "Among Nobel laureates, President Obama appears to have won by a landslide."
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:47 PM
Oct 2012
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/nobel-laureates-endorse-obama/

October 18, 2012, 10:19 am 51 Comments

Nobel Laureates Endorse Obama
By KENNETH CHANG

Among Nobel laureates, President Obama appears to have won by a landslide.

Sixty-eight Nobel Prize winners in the science fields, including the two Americans who won this year’s chemistry prize, have signed a letter endorsing Mr. Obama over his Republican rival, Mitt Romney.

“President Obama understands the key role science has played in building a prosperous America,” the laureates wrote in a letter that was released on Wednesday. Mr. Obama “has championed investment in science and technology research that is the engine of our economy.”

The signers said that Mr. Romney, by contrast, “supports a budget that, if implemented, would devastate a long tradition of support for public research and investment in science at a time when this country’s future depends, as never before, on innovation.”

In September, 2008, 61 American winners of a science Nobel — in medicine, physics or chemistry — signed a similar letter endorsing Mr. Obama over Senator John McCain, a number that rose to 76 by the end of October.

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They link to the letter here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/472355-an-open-letter-to-the-american-people.html

bananas

(27,509 posts)
16. Here's the text of the letter
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:02 PM
Oct 2012
An Open Letter to the American People

America’s economic future, the quality of our health, and the quality of our environment depend on
our ability to continue America’s proud legacy of discovery and invention. As winners of the Nobel
Prizes in science, we are proud of our contribution to the extraordinary advances American science
has made in recent years. But we’re deeply concerned that without leadership and continued
commitment to scientific research the next generation of Americans will not make and benefit from
future discoveries.

President Obama understands the key role science has played in building a prosperous America, has
delivered on his promise to renew our faith in science-based decision making and has championed
investment in science and technology research that is the engine of our economy. He has built
strong programs to educate young Americans in Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics
and programs to provide Americans the training they need to keep pace with a technology-driven
economy.

His opponent supports a budget that, if implemented, would devastate a long tradition of support for
public research and investment in science at a time when this country’s future depends, as never
before, on innovation. He has also taken positions that privilege ideology over clear scientific
evidence on climate change.

As a nation we must continue the investments that revolutionized agriculture, invented the Internet,
gave us modern medicine and enabled a strong national defense. Abandoning this tradition would be
a devastating step backwards. If you believe, as we do, that America’s future is bound in essential
ways to science and innovation, we urge you to join us in working to ensure the reelection of
President Obama.

Alexei Abrikosov, Physics '03
Peter Agre, Chemistry '03
Sidney Altman, Chemistry, '89
Philip Anderson, Physics, '77
David Baltimore, Medicine '75
Paul Berg, Chemistry, '80
J. Michael Bishop, Medicine, '89
Elizabeth Blackburn, Medicine, '09
Günter Blobel, Medicine, '99
Nicolaas Bloembergen, Physics, '81
Linda Buck, Medicine, '04
Mario Capecchi, Medicine, '07
Martin Chalfie, Chemistry, '08
Leon Cooper, Physics, '72
James Cronin, Physics, '80
Robert Curl, Chemistry, '96
Johann Deisenhofer, Chemistry, '88
Edmond Fischer, Medicine, '92
Val Fitch, Physics, '80
Jerome Friedman, Physics, '90
Murray Gell-Mann, Physics, '69
Walter Gilbert, Chemistry, '80
Donald Glaser, Physics, '60
Sheldon Glashow, Physics, '79
Roy Glauber, Physics, '05
Joseph Goldstein, Medicine, '85
Paul Greengard, Medicine, '00
Carol Greider, Medicine, '09
David Gross, Physics, '04
Robert Grubbs, Chemistry, '05
Roger Guillemin, Medicine, '77
John Hall, Physics, '05
Leland Hartwell, Medicine, '01
Alan Heeger, Chemistry, '00
Dudley Herschbach, Chemistry, '86
Roald Hoffmann, Chemistry, '81
H. Robert Horvitz, Medicine, '02
David Hubel, Medicine, '81
Eric Kandel, Medicine, '00
Brian Kobilka, Chemistry, '12
Roger Kornberg, Chemistry, '06
Leon Lederman, Physics, '88
Robert Lefkowitz, Chemistry, '12
Rudy Marcus, Chemistry, '92
John Mather, Physics, '06
Craig Mello, Medicine, '06
Mario Molina, Chemistry, '95
Douglas Osheroff, Physics, '96
Arno Penzias, Physics, '78
Martin Perl, Physics, '95
David Politzer, Physics, '04
Stanley Prusiner, Medicine, '97
Burton Richter, Physics, '76
Richard Schrock, Chemistry, '05
Hamilton Smith, Medicine, '78
Oliver Smithies, Medicine, '07
George Smoot, Physics, '06
Thomas Steitz, Chemistry, '09
Jack Szostak, Medicine, '09
Joseph Taylor Jr, Physics, '93
Charles Townes, Physics, '64
Roger Tsien, Chemistry, '08
Daniel Tsui, Physics, '98
James Watson, Medicine, '62
Carl Wieman, Physics, '01
Eric Wieschaus, Medicine, '95
Frank Wilczek, Physics, '04
Robert Wilson, Physics, '78

The views expressed in this letter represent those of the signers acting as individual citizens. They do
not necessarily represent the views of the institutions with which they are affiliated. The Medicine
award is for "Physiology or Medicine."

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
19. It's sad really...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:29 PM
Oct 2012

Never a surprise. This is a given. But it is sad when scientists have to be drawn in the political process.

Once upon a time, we had a two party-system; they competed with each other for power, but both were reasonably rational and respected the progress and enlightenment of mankind. Natural science is fundamentally apolitical. They might have ribbed each other on economic policy, but even a man like Nixon could declare: "I am now a Keynesian."

It signified rationalism, empiricism, embracing the truth and reality to formulate policy and take actions for progress, as opposed to being doctrinaire, dogmatic, and executing an agenda that adheres blindly to dangerous falsehood and beliefs with devastating consequence. It's the kind of folly and backwardness that we thought long gone and belongs only to human history.

It's sad for the Country when the intelligentsia that is dedicated to truth and progress for human without any political agenda has to side with one party more than the other. The GOP today reminds us that 21st century America is not that far from Soviet Lysenkoism 80 years ago, with disastrous consequence to the people.

The voters have very little choice now.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
21. I was thinking, this is a real validation of Obama's choice for Science Advisor, John Holdren
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:55 AM
Oct 2012

The fact that so many Nobel Laureates are in favor of Obama's policies indicates that Obama's been getting some pretty good advice.

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