Iran Nuclear Deal Participants to Meet in Vienna

[DonViejo]

Source: PoliticalWire


April 2, 2021 at 7:55 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

“Negotiations to restore the 2015 Iran nuclear deal will take place among all parties in Vienna next week, the first serious effort to rescue the agreement since President Biden took office in January,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

“Senior officials from all participants in the accord, Iran, France, Germany, the U.K., Russia and China, and top U.S. officials will gather in the Austrian capital.”

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Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2021/04/02/iran-nuclear-deal-participants-to-meet-in-vienna/

[Botany]

1. Grown ups are back

“Negotiations to restore the 2015 Iran nuclear deal will take place among all parties in Vienna next week."

[secondwind]

2. KnR

[WHITT]

3. According To The BBC

The participants in the Vienna talks are Iran, France, Germany, the U.K., Russia and China. The others have requested that the U.S. be added to the talks, but Iran said they object until the U.S. removes the sanctions which are in violation of the JCPOA.

[Bayard]

4. Who goes first?

They won't talk till we remove sanctions. We don't remove sanctions until they agree to a deal.

[WHITT]

5. Who Violated The Agreement?

[GregariousGroundhog]

6. The United States and Iran are both in violation, but the U.S. violated first

Iran has a right to be skeptical, they experienced first hand how a U.S. election can cause U.S. foreign policy to do a 180.

[Bayard]

8. trump was always spoiling for a fight

[WHITT]

9. Nope

According to the agreement, if one party violates the agreement, the other parties are no longer bound by the agreement, therefore Iran CANNOT be in violation of the agreement.

Only one party violated the JCPOA, and only one party remains in violation of the agreement.

[Mosby]

11. It says nothing like that.

Here it is, unscr 2231 and JCPOA.

https://undocs.org/Home/Mobile?FinalSymbol=S%2FRES%2F2231(2015)&Language=E&DeviceType=Mobile

[marie999]

7. Only Germany and Iran don't have nuclear weapons.

The US is the only country that has used nuclear weapons. Israel has nuclear weapons. Israel has intentionally murdered American servicemen working for NSA, some were friends of my husband. I don't trust Israel any more than I trust Iran. I believe that if a nuclear war starts it will be started by India and Pakistan. We don't have any right to keep Korea and Iran from having nuclear weapons.

[WHITT]

10. And

Israel illegally acquired their nuclear weapons, in violation of the international NPT (Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty), whereas Iran has always been in compliance with the NPT.

[Mosby]

12. They are not signatories of the NPT.

Did Israel have a right to destroy Saddams and Assads nuclear program? Would the world be a better place if they hadn't?

[WHITT]

13. Well

Neither Saddam or Assad had a nuclear programs. Don't fall for RightWing Likud propaganda.

[Mosby]

14. I'm not going to waste any more time on you.

[WHITT]

15. Whatever Blows Your Skirt Up

[EX500rider]

17. Hardly a talking point

https://armscontrol.org/act/1998-10/features/iraqs-reconstitution-its-nuclear-weapons-program#:~:text=Iraq's%20initial%20plan%20was%20to,had%20fallen%20several%20months%20behind.

https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.881312

http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2016/ph241/basutkar1/

[WHITT]

18. "Plans" "Plans" "Plans"

Allegedly.

The same crowd claimed Iraq had WMD.

[EX500rider]

21. Right...those war mongers over at Arms Control.org & Stanford & Physics Today lol

[WHITT]

23. Hey

There's no accounting for gullibility. None of those imagined allegations panned out.

[EX500rider]

16. "whereas Iran has always been in compliance with the NPT" No such thing

They have found to be out of compliance with secret undeclared facilities and committing prohibited activities on multiple occasions.

[WHITT]

19. Again, Allegedly

[EX500rider]

20. I could say the same thing, Israel "allegedly" has nuclear weapons. nt

[WHITT]

22. I Assumed

you know why the Likud has never publicly admitted to having nuclear weapons.

[EX500rider]

24. I assume

You know why Iran has never admitted to having a nuclear weapons program

[WHITT]

25. Yes!

Because the IAEA has documented Iran doesn't have one.

[Mosby]

26. Pretty much everything you posted on this thread is untrue

The IAEA has written extensively about Iran's nucluer weapon program.

U.S. intelligence agencies and the IAEA believe Iran had a secret, coordinated nuclear weapons programme that it halted in 2003, which Iran denies. The 2015 nuclear deal effectively drew a line under that past, but Iran is still required to explain evidence of undeclared past activities or material to the IAEA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2AJ269

IAEA inspectors in Iran said to find evidence of possible nuclear weapons work

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/iaea-inspectors-in-iran-said-to-find-evidence-of-possible-nuclear-weapons-work/amp/

[WHITT]

27. Ah!

"believe" AND "possible"

Way to bring the evidence to your unsubstantiated allegations.

Once again, the IAEA has documented Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program.

[Mosby]

28. Here's more likud propaganda for you

Israel Destroyed Syria's Nuclear Potential. What Would The World Look Like Now If They Hadn't?

https://www.newsweek.com/2019/06/07/israel-destroyed-syria-nuclear-reactor-1433940.html

[WHITT]

29. Eh

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I could get into a long litany of other reasons, but from the getgo, the building was the wrong shape for a reactor.

Stupidity ensues.

(BTW, for clarity, that reference is to news reports, not any poster)