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Initech

(100,075 posts)
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:49 PM Apr 2021

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis bans coronavirus "vaccine passports"

Source: Axios

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday prohibiting businesses from requiring customers to show proof they have received COVID vaccines and preventing the state government from issuing so-called "vaccine passports."

Why it matters: Immunization credentials for the coronavirus have become a controversial subject, especially with Republican governors, though proof of vaccination could speed international travel and economic reopening plans.

What they're saying: DeSantis' order says requiring immunization credentials "would create two classes of citizens based on vaccination."

"Businesses in Florida are prohibited from requiring patrons or customers to provide any documentation certifying COVID-19 vaccination or post-transmission recovery to gain access to, entry upon, or service from the business," the order states.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/florida-desantis-vaccine-passport-order-fe7fab1a-fe8f-421a-ac4d-f9b480f03f66.html



Is Ron DeSantis *TRYING* to be the worst governor in the country? Or is he in direct competition with Brian Kemp? Either way, expect Florida to have their own home grown COVID variant soon.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis bans coronavirus "vaccine passports" (Original Post) Initech Apr 2021 OP
I used to love to visit Florida. Never, ever again. catrose Apr 2021 #1
Wondering liberalgunwilltravel Apr 2021 #11
Same here Roy Rolling Apr 2021 #29
I miss my parents terribly, but I'm glad I don't have to go back there to visit Warpy Apr 2021 #46
Nevertheless, Office Depot and Staples will laminate your card TexasBushwhacker Apr 2021 #2
DO NOT Lamante northlake9 Apr 2021 #7
Some are finding that laminating ruins the card NullTuples Apr 2021 #34
Not if everybody gets vaccinated, Governor Moron. rickyhall Apr 2021 #3
Well...other states and countries are going to require.... FarPoint Apr 2021 #4
i don't think he's allowed to make arbitrary 'rules' on the free market PerceptionManagement Apr 2021 #5
I'm suprised DeSantis has not declared that Covid is not a disease and no treatment will be allowed LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2021 #6
Who gave him control of private businesses? It won't stand up in court. sinkingfeeling Apr 2021 #8
Governors mandated face masks to private business forthemiddle Apr 2021 #51
Silly ad121rome Apr 2021 #9
This asshole is another bluestarone Apr 2021 #10
Putin is mad because he lost one of his playthings. Initech Apr 2021 #18
REPUBLICAN POLICIES KILL AMERICANS CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #12
Fuck DeSatan and his whole crew. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2021 #13
Does not sound legal Garion_55 Apr 2021 #14
No it doesn't, it's a big middle finger to liberalism. Initech Apr 2021 #16
I'm not a lawyer, but agree - it's one thing for the state to impose restrictions to PROTECT public spooky3 Apr 2021 #27
Isn't there an App for this yet? mezame Apr 2021 #15
Would you trust a non-HIPAA app with your medical info? NullTuples Apr 2021 #36
Why not? mezame Apr 2021 #48
If it's limited to me scanning a code, with no other cross data exchange NullTuples Apr 2021 #57
The GOP is a Death Cult edhopper Apr 2021 #17
He thinks he's showing he's got a big one... stillcool Apr 2021 #19
He's doing trump bidding Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #20
Horrible, horrible people. louis-t Apr 2021 #21
It's deadly when your governor is an insane criminal numbnuts. dchill Apr 2021 #22
Fucking snowflake. (nt) Paladin Apr 2021 #23
The GOP really is the "Stupid Party" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 #24
Climate change? Infrastructure? Health care? Educating kids in future technology? Jon King Apr 2021 #25
Yet DeSantis has no problem creating two classes of citizens based on race. Marcuse Apr 2021 #26
DeSantis like Linsdey and Ted Snellius Apr 2021 #28
We already have two classes of citizens based on vaccination - Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #30
That is not constitutional. Goodheart Apr 2021 #31
make copy of original and then laminate . AllaN01Bear Apr 2021 #32
Gov. Ron gonna find his ass in court! Ford_Prefect Apr 2021 #33
That's what he wants. hay rick Apr 2021 #35
Stupid, dangerous and power-obsessed. Sounds like the definition of the GOP these days. Ford_Prefect Apr 2021 #38
Oh, so he supports government regulating businesses... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #37
And Gov. DeSatan Shows GB_RN Apr 2021 #39
Fuck Florida! WVreaper Apr 2021 #40
I think you have to give at least a nod for effort to Abbott. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #41
What's next, arresting people for wearing a mask? What a little dipshit! Talitha Apr 2021 #42
I wouldn't put it past him BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #49
Therefore and thusly, WVreaper Apr 2021 #43
So domestic travel doesn't require proof of vaccination but not a bad idea to have it with you. Grammy23 Apr 2021 #44
Not very Republican-like if you ask me jmowreader Apr 2021 #45
How is this a state issue? tirebiter Apr 2021 #47
Vaccine passports were too restrictive for all the party girls at the gaetz bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #50
I hope someone gets sick and sues Death Sentence personally for this, if possible. lark Apr 2021 #52
For reference -- David Frum's article explaining GOP possition on property rights. Pobeka Apr 2021 #53
A lot of cruise ship companies leave and arrive in Miami kimbutgar Apr 2021 #54
Vaccine records are provided by the CDC Pas-de-Calais Apr 2021 #55
MASKLESS CLOWNS ARE SIMILIAR TO Transgender people and othe minorities! REALLY! DTRV Apr 2021 #56
So people can start to go into stores in FL with no shirt or shoes? roamer65 Apr 2021 #58
Post removed Post removed Apr 2021 #59
wow... myohmy2 Apr 2021 #60
You already know-the stupid ones don't wear a mask. Freedumb. RainCaster Apr 2021 #61

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
29. Same here
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 09:27 PM
Apr 2021

Destin was an annual vacation, it ended a few years ago. The stupid Trump boat parade in the Destin inlet was the last straw. It makes sense Gaetz is the representative and DeSantis is governor.

Florida cannot survive on MAGA commerce.

Warpy

(111,257 posts)
46. I miss my parents terribly, but I'm glad I don't have to go back there to visit
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:15 AM
Apr 2021

People I know who live there say there was a huge influx of wingnuts starting about 15 years ago. Now they feel trapped, either by their work or by the financial inability to leave.

My dad loved it, thought it was where good people go when they die. My mother said she loved to see all the high rise time shares and condos being built because they'd make it sink faster.

I never liked it but it was better before Jebbie gave all the pristine beaches away to developer buddies. Now I can't think of anything to recommend it unless you like mildew.

northlake9

(65 posts)
7. DO NOT Lamante
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:57 PM
Apr 2021

The card should not be laminated. It may be used for additional shots for a booster or variants. Put is a plastic bag or protective sleeve.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
34. Some are finding that laminating ruins the card
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 10:10 PM
Apr 2021

There have been reports of the heat making the ink where the injector wrote the date & type invisible.

Also, if a booster is needed in the future, it's not possible to write on the laminate.

Make a copy, laminate that & keep it on you. Keep the original safe somewhere.

FarPoint

(12,366 posts)
4. Well...other states and countries are going to require....
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:53 PM
Apr 2021

Proof of vaccination.... So, he is not really in control...Folks will end up stuck in Florida...they can come in but going out to other destinations may become problematic.

6. I'm suprised DeSantis has not declared that Covid is not a disease and no treatment will be allowed
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:56 PM
Apr 2021

for people who show up with symptoms. Also, he'll issue an EO prohibiting the distribution of any of the three vaccines.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
8. Who gave him control of private businesses? It won't stand up in court.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:58 PM
Apr 2021

How's that going to work if an international airline like British Air demands it?

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
51. Governors mandated face masks to private business
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 08:41 AM
Apr 2021

How is this different?

For the past year we have cheered Governor mandates against Covid, but now we want to reign in that power? This could be that slippery slope many feared.

I am all for vaccinations, and I will proudly show off my passport when I get my second shot on Monday, and I feel DeSantis is an ass for this, but I don’t love the idea of Government telling me what to do with my health either.

There is also a true hesitation in the African American community when it comes to the vaccine.
If we allow the vaccine passports to limit what activities we can do, do we risk a new form of segregation? Milwaukee community’s are finding it tough to get the confidence of these community’s to become fully vaccinated.

https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/vaccine-hesitancy-poses-challenge-in-wisconsins-fight-against-covid-19


ad121rome

(151 posts)
9. Silly
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:59 PM
Apr 2021

That’s petty and silly. Coming from a get your government outta my face guy that’s pretty rich.

Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
14. Does not sound legal
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 06:29 PM
Apr 2021

If a business requires to see your ID before you can enter like a bar, They should also have the right to see your proof of vaccination.

Initech

(100,075 posts)
16. No it doesn't, it's a big middle finger to liberalism.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 06:37 PM
Apr 2021

And I for one am getting really sick of this shit. Limbaugh is dead, it's time for Limbaughism to die with him.

spooky3

(34,452 posts)
27. I'm not a lawyer, but agree - it's one thing for the state to impose restrictions to PROTECT public
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 09:16 PM
Apr 2021

health, but something very different to interfere with a business owner's attempt to protect it.

mezame

(295 posts)
15. Isn't there an App for this yet?
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 06:33 PM
Apr 2021

jeebsus...how 'bout wristbands instead. If the idiots wanna go see their pro sports teams in person, they're gonna have to prove it somehow. Will the major leagues really put up with this nonsense?

mezame

(295 posts)
48. Why not?
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 04:51 AM
Apr 2021

everyone's glued to their phones; fitbits and apple watches and whatnot - everyone's lives and existence all contained in the palm of their hands - why would it be so hard to have the doctor/nurse let you scan a code after your vaccination? it's done all the time for concert tickets and so forth, right? Got the code, flash your phone, off you go.

I still like the wristband idea better.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
57. If it's limited to me scanning a code, with no other cross data exchange
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 09:34 PM
Apr 2021

That I could be okay with. Several apps I've seen already though effectively grant the 3rd party company to access some of the user's health care info from their health care provider.

dchill

(38,489 posts)
22. It's deadly when your governor is an insane criminal numbnuts.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 07:20 PM
Apr 2021

So many states have them now. Evangelical conservatism in its purest form is fatal.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
25. Climate change? Infrastructure? Health care? Educating kids in future technology?
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 08:45 PM
Apr 2021

Can we see any Republicans propose any solid details on any issue that matters to the future of the country? Of simply rally around immature crap that does not matter until the end of time?

Marcuse

(7,480 posts)
26. Yet DeSantis has no problem creating two classes of citizens based on race.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 09:09 PM
Apr 2021

Florida House Bill 7041 is similar to the Georgia voter suppression law in that it limits voting by mail, voting hours and drop boxes. It also declares water to be a controlled substance. The Florida Senate will pass it and DeSantis will sign it.

[link:https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/03/10/florida-senators-advance-bill-eliminating-drop-boxes-and-limiting-vote-by-mail/

DeSantis' order says requiring immunization credentials "would create two classes of citizens based on vaccination."

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
30. We already have two classes of citizens based on vaccination -
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 09:32 PM
Apr 2021

Those who can attend school (from preschool through - in some instances - college), and those who can't.

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
33. Gov. Ron gonna find his ass in court!
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 09:56 PM
Apr 2021

He's trying to assert that his opinion outweighs established medical facts and basic science. I suppose he's like the other denialists in thinking that laws of Gravity and Momentum only apply to other people he doesn't like.

OR he is setting the stage for further genocide.

My personal view is he's a Republican terrorist who has declared Jihad on the people of Florida and the surrounding vicinity. It's difficult to tell if he's deliberately exposing everyone in the hope that more Democratic voters will die or suffer.
OR: He's batshit crazy for power and thinks he and the-people-who-matter won't be affected by the disease or the damage to everyone else, or the wide-spread economic breakdown, or medical services collapse, and public services disruption (Fire and Police) so long as they have the money to buy their comfort and his government, And that they can order anyone to do whatever they want done.

hay rick

(7,611 posts)
35. That's what he wants.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 10:11 PM
Apr 2021

He's playing to all the anti-vax, anti-woke, and own-the-lib "victims." He wants to be Trump's successor and he doesn't care how many dead bodies he has to climb over to get there.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
37. Oh, so he supports government regulating businesses...
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 10:13 PM
Apr 2021

... as long as it might harm the general welfare.

Got it!

GB_RN

(2,355 posts)
39. And Gov. DeSatan Shows
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 10:29 PM
Apr 2021

That the only thing that the Florida government has in abundance is stupid: Weapons-grade stupid, more dense than depleted uranium. 🙄🤦?♂️

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
41. I think you have to give at least a nod for effort to Abbott.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 10:54 PM
Apr 2021

But when it comes right down to it, you just can't ignore a governor who is trying to take a sledgehammer to the foundation of democracy. Kemp, by 5 lengths, at least.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
49. I wouldn't put it past him
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 06:16 AM
Apr 2021

He would probably twist mask-wearing in a way that hearkens back to the "old (TV) days" when "wild wild west bandits" wore some kind of bandana/mask to supposedly "hide" their identities when they "robbed the bank" or "robbed a train".

It'll be considered the "new American hijab".

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
44. So domestic travel doesn't require proof of vaccination but not a bad idea to have it with you.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 11:43 PM
Apr 2021

International travel (when it resumes) will likely require proof of vaccination for certain countries and when you return to the US. So how does DeSantis plan to dictate to the airlines what they will require and will not be allowed to require??

He is an idiot. I can’t wait to see what he says when conventions are cancelled and people choose to go elsewhere for their vacation. Did I say he is an idiot? Can’t say it too many times.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
45. Not very Republican-like if you ask me
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:15 AM
Apr 2021

The GOP used to be of a mind to let the private sector do anything it wanted. Dump toxic waste in the waterways? Hire undocumented immigrants? Sell guns to a guy who stands there saying, “hurry up, hurry up, I need to get back home before that (insert derisive term for a woman here) gets back”? Not a problem. Business knows better than government what to do.

Now we don’t even have vaccine passports yet and the Republicans are dictating how private businesses can handle them.

lark

(23,099 posts)
52. I hope someone gets sick and sues Death Sentence personally for this, if possible.
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 10:19 AM
Apr 2021

Hell, I'd hope the arena operators would sue him for something like restraint of trade because he's making them let possibly sick people in and get exposed and risk their servers and customers health as well pushing vaccinated people away from a could be safe gathering due to total idiots..

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
54. A lot of cruise ship companies leave and arrive in Miami
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:32 PM
Apr 2021

They want to bring people back to cruising. It might make the international cruise companies rethink and move those cruise ships out of Florida and find ports that are ok with vaccination passports. And don’t get me started on Orlando. I hope Disney and Universal push back.

He’s so dumb he doesn’t realize he is hurting his state with these insane pronouncements.

Pas-de-Calais

(9,904 posts)
55. Vaccine records are provided by the CDC
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 04:44 PM
Apr 2021

Enclosed in a see thru plastic sleeve like wallets have for driver’s licenses

Not any state

Both wife and I have them

DTRV

(56 posts)
56. MASKLESS CLOWNS ARE SIMILIAR TO Transgender people and othe minorities! REALLY!
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 07:21 PM
Apr 2021

Is this guy seriously trying to say that people who choose to be maskless in public are like protected class groups!!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
58. So people can start to go into stores in FL with no shirt or shoes?
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 11:26 PM
Apr 2021

This will be taken to court and DeSatan will lose.

Response to Initech (Original post)

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
60. wow...
Sun Apr 4, 2021, 08:39 AM
Apr 2021

...talk about governmental over-reach restricting my right to freely assemble with like-minded people...

...these Republican governors are going to be against anything that saves the lives of Americans...in the name of greed they'll unsafely force us into contact with their mutant virus incubating friends until our vaccine's effectiveness is destroyed...

...'two classes of citizens'?

...we already have many visible 'classes of citizens'...the haves and the have nots, the young and the old, the beautiful and the not so beautiful, the tall and the short, etc...

...why not the pandemically-smart and the pandemically-stupid?

..this way when I'm standing in line at McDonald's I won't have to guess...

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