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BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:43 PM Apr 2021

Tiger Woods Was Driving About 85 M.P.H. in a 45 M.P.H. Zone When He Crashed

Source: New York Times

Tiger Woods was driving about 40 miles per hour over the speed limit when he crashed a sport-utility vehicle in February, according to Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva. Woods was traveling between 84 and 87 miles per hour in a 45 m.p.h. zone, Villanueva said at a news conference Wednesday. His car was traveling at an estimated 75 m.p.h. when it struck a tree. “The primary causal factor for the collision was driving at an unsafe speed for the road conditions and being unable to negotiate the curve,” said Villanueva.

Woods was not cited for driving too fast and no criminal charges will be filed, Villanueva said. He added that there were no signs of impairment or intoxication, and that Woods was wearing his seatbelt. The captain of the Lomita Sheriff’s Station, James Powers, said that data was obtained from the vehicle’s event data recorder, known colloquially as the black box. The data showed that Woods had hit the accelerator throughout the crash, and that the pressure applied to the pedal was 99 percent. Powers said he believed that Woods inadvertently hit the accelerator while trying to brake. Woods has no recollection of the collision, and there were no witnesses to the crash.

Woods was not cited, Villanueva said, because under California law that typically requires either an independent witness or a law enforcement officer to witness the excessive speed. He said that Woods did not receive any special treatment, and nobody would be cited for speeding in a solo vehicle collision without any witnesses. Woods had to be extracted from his S.U.V. after the crash on the morning of Feb. 23 and taken to the hospital, where he underwent several surgeries on his right leg. Doctors not involved in Woods’s care have predicted an extremely difficult recovery from his injuries.

Woods crashed his car on a windy and tricky stretch of Hawthorne Boulevard that is known for car crashes near Rancho Palos Verdes, a coastal city in Los Angeles County. According to data collected by the sheriff’s department, there were 13 crashes, four with injuries, from Jan. 3, 2020, to Feb. 23 of this year within a 1.35-mile stretch of Hawthorne Boulevard that includes the site where Woods crashed. That stretch of road is also known for speeding. Deputy Carlos Gonzalez, the first emergency responder to arrive at the scene, said at a news conference in February that he had sometimes seen vehicles going more than 80 miles per hour on Hawthorne Boulevard.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/07/sports/golf/tiger-woods-speeding-car-crash.html

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Tiger Woods Was Driving About 85 M.P.H. in a 45 M.P.H. Zone When He Crashed (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 OP
When you're a star, you can do anything. speak easy Apr 2021 #1
I will add a few words, "When you're a star, you can do anything........."AND GET AWAY WITH IT" Stuart G Apr 2021 #11
He does not appear to have gotten away with it FBaggins Apr 2021 #22
Yeah, that's total B.S. Guess how many times ANY other driver would have been cited for speeding? machoneman Apr 2021 #15
... speak easy Apr 2021 #20
The laws of physics don't care if you are a star. Jeebo Apr 2021 #17
You mean like swinging a golf club into the window of an SUV? speak easy Apr 2021 #18
I was just going to say exactly that. CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #41
Asshole Mysterian Apr 2021 #2
Tiger didn't care about endangering others...He only cared about ....himself... Stuart G Apr 2021 #26
I like Tiger woods a lot, but this was very poor judgment. Just so glad he survived so he can be iluvtennis Apr 2021 #3
f*** him Skittles Apr 2021 #51
I wonder if he was trying to kill himself? Botany Apr 2021 #4
He was driving to the golf course from his hotel. brush Apr 2021 #10
No brakes newdayneeded Apr 2021 #53
Any other schmoe would have had his license suspended, given his previous... LudwigPastorius Apr 2021 #5
I wish him the best. truthisfreedom Apr 2021 #6
He was driving 85 in a 45 zone. Mysterian Apr 2021 #8
Speed limits are for little people :sarcasm: speak easy Apr 2021 #13
READ THE ARTICLE. truthisfreedom Apr 2021 #50
I would say that going 80+ in a 45 is a pretty big fact. cstanleytech Apr 2021 #36
Right??? LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #39
Isn't that a bit slow for one of his drives? ffr Apr 2021 #7
Since accidents and too much speed are common in that stretch of road... brush Apr 2021 #9
Questions:....Is it a two lane road?...four lanes?..divided?...etc. Stuart G Apr 2021 #14
It was reported that it's four lanes and divided. brush Apr 2021 #19
85 MPH isn't simply gaining gaining downhill speed-- it's freaking reckless driving LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #40
I'm not saying he wasn't speeding. There have been many accidents in... brush Apr 2021 #45
WOT - wide open throttle taxi Apr 2021 #12
Thought he was driving his Ferrari! machoneman Apr 2021 #16
He would have had more than 5 mph to spare in that. taxi Apr 2021 #29
"Too bad about your car" JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2021 #33
You know, taxi Apr 2021 #34
Wow. I've driven that road many times. And that is an insane speed. C Moon Apr 2021 #21
History of drug use while driving twodogsbarking Apr 2021 #23
A key point - no excuse for that omission. TheRickles Apr 2021 #35
Lock Him Up! IbogaProject Apr 2021 #24
I use the term servitude as I hate the term "community service' IbogaProject Apr 2021 #49
Love those kind of drivers, I get them all the time bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #25
Jay Leno stares at his twitter and wonders if he should hit send. NT cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #27
Honestly, it still doesn't answer whether it was reckless driving or a "medical bullwinkle428 Apr 2021 #28
In this county in Ohio Marthe48 Apr 2021 #30
I once rolled my truck off black ice in the middle of the night in a blizzard in 16 degree weather. rickyhall Apr 2021 #31
Can't they just add in a speed bump or two coming up to the curves? Laha Apr 2021 #32
Speed cameras. Speed activated traffic lights. NurseJackie Apr 2021 #38
But if they're already too careless to regard the speeding laws Laha Apr 2021 #43
There are still people here who will defend him BradAllison Apr 2021 #37
You could probably do that in a Porsche, or Ferrari, or Lamborghini. An SUV? Not so much. CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #42
"...at a speed to fast for road conditions" JohnnyRingo Apr 2021 #44
I was expecting this. LiberalFighter Apr 2021 #46
Rich and famous usually means a free ride in USA. nt Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #47
And no blood alcohol or toxicology test requested. Just like the REST of us!! oldsoftie Apr 2021 #48
Hate hate hate... mac2766 Apr 2021 #52

machoneman

(3,952 posts)
15. Yeah, that's total B.S. Guess how many times ANY other driver would have been cited for speeding?
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:15 PM
Apr 2021

Thousands in one year? Tens of thousands in a decade?

Sure, no special treatment.....and my painted Unicorn agrees!

Jeebo

(2,005 posts)
17. The laws of physics don't care if you are a star.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:19 PM
Apr 2021

Those natural laws will impose consequences regardless of your fame or wealth.

-- Ron

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
26. Tiger didn't care about endangering others...He only cared about ....himself...
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:54 PM
Apr 2021

...If Tiger cared about anyone else at all...it would not have been 85, would have been 60 or 65 at most..
Yes, going a little over the limit allows for mistakes and other kinds of errors..
....But going 85 in a 45 zone, just shows total self involvement, and total stupidity...a curving road?...Why speed limit of 45 mph and not higher?.... Tiger didn't give a s**t, because he needed to ..
do what he wanted to do..

......Why?....because he is special....he is TIGER WOODS!!!

iluvtennis

(19,758 posts)
3. I like Tiger woods a lot, but this was very poor judgment. Just so glad he survived so he can be
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:55 PM
Apr 2021

here for his two young kids.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
4. I wonder if he was trying to kill himself?
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:55 PM
Apr 2021

Reports of him leaving the golf course early where he was hosting a tournament early in the
morning and driving away @ a high rate of speed. He is lucky he did not kill somebody else.

newdayneeded

(1,939 posts)
53. No brakes
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:02 AM
Apr 2021

And I saw last night he actually accelerated before the vehicle swerved. Unfortunately, you might be right in your thought. I love Tiger, I really hope that wasn't the case.

LudwigPastorius

(8,944 posts)
5. Any other schmoe would have had his license suspended, given his previous...
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:57 PM
Apr 2021

history with vehicles.

Surely, Tiger would have been charged if he was on his cell phone, as I suspect he was, right?

Mysterian

(4,524 posts)
8. He was driving 85 in a 45 zone.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:00 PM
Apr 2021

Unless it is shown that his accelerator was defective, I will feel welcome to denigrate him all I desire.

brush

(53,475 posts)
9. Since accidents and too much speed are common in that stretch of road...
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:02 PM
Apr 2021

seems the county should re-engineer it to curb the speed of traffic. A steep, downhill grade and a sweeping curve is just about a recipe for gaining too much speed to drivers unfamiliar with the road.

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
14. Questions:....Is it a two lane road?...four lanes?..divided?...etc.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:12 PM
Apr 2021

....If it is a two lane road, (and I don't know) ....than Woods was very stupid..>>YES, VERY VERY STUPID
....If it was a four lane divided highway, well what was the speed limit at 45 for?

........My guess is ...it was 2 lanes, not divided and that is why 45 was the limit....Tiger has no excuse if that is it.
.......But I honestly don't know the facts...........just the facts.!!!

brush

(53,475 posts)
19. It was reported that it's four lanes and divided.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:25 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:52 PM - Edit history (1)

It's on a steep, sweeping curve, easy to gain speed by drivers not familiar with the road.

In my neighborhood there's a downhill grade from the road being built over a freeway and cops hangout tucked away in a cul-de-sac to catch "speeders" coming down the hill. Those of us familiar with the road and the speed trap always take our foot off the gas when coming down the hill as we know to watch out for the motorcycle cop lurking. They always get someone though who doesn't live in the area.

My point being it's easy to pick up speed on steep, downhill grades.

brush

(53,475 posts)
45. I'm not saying he wasn't speeding. There have been many accidents in...
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:00 PM
Apr 2021

that stretch of road. It probably needs to be looked at by the county as to how to slow down the traffic speed. Woods is not the only one that has had an accident there.

taxi

(1,895 posts)
12. WOT - wide open throttle
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:05 PM
Apr 2021

To the officer: I tried to power through the break, but caught the edge instead, and shot out the other side.
Officer: Yeah, I hate missing turns like that. Too bad about your car.

taxi

(1,895 posts)
29. He would have had more than 5 mph to spare in that.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:05 PM
Apr 2021

No leaning or tire roll, and bring on the r's.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
33. "Too bad about your car"
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:53 PM
Apr 2021

Hey, no sweat, officer, it isn't my car. The company that sponsors the golf tournament hands the keys out to golfers and other celebrities. See their logo on the side of the door? That logo, upside down on a crunched door, will be shown many many times on national television. The sponsor is getting enormous amounts of publicity, and all for the cost of insuring a courtesy car.

It's all good.

I'm not getting a ticket or anything, right?

IbogaProject

(2,694 posts)
24. Lock Him Up!
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:48 PM
Apr 2021

He needs months in county followed by 5 years probation w 3× per week alcohol & drug tests plus 1,000 hours of community servitude.

IbogaProject

(2,694 posts)
49. I use the term servitude as I hate the term "community service'
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 09:38 PM
Apr 2021

I use the term servitude as I hate the term "community service', I am far from pro punitive judicial punishments but this spoiled brat needs to work out his issues and slow down both figuratively and literally. Driving double the speed limit is a crime not just a traffic offence in may locations.

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
25. Love those kind of drivers, I get them all the time
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:48 PM
Apr 2021

usually early Sat morning. It' the WEEKEND!!!!

There's no will to do much about risky drivers. No real interest.

bullwinkle428

(20,627 posts)
28. Honestly, it still doesn't answer whether it was reckless driving or a "medical
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:02 PM
Apr 2021

event" (wink-wink, nudge-nudge).

Marthe48

(16,692 posts)
30. In this county in Ohio
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:11 PM
Apr 2021

everybody involved in a wreck is cited. Even if it's failure to control. I get cranked when people break driving laws, and are not cited. TG he didn't hit another car.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
31. I once rolled my truck off black ice in the middle of the night in a blizzard in 16 degree weather.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:22 PM
Apr 2021

I was picked up by good samaritan hunters. Colorado cop sited me for leaving the scene. He said, "I had to right you up for something."

Laha

(407 posts)
32. Can't they just add in a speed bump or two coming up to the curves?
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:25 PM
Apr 2021

These idiots will slow down to save their precious cars before they'll slow down to save another person. Or even themselves apparently.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
38. Speed cameras. Speed activated traffic lights.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:20 PM
Apr 2021

There's a stretch of road here in the DC area that has speed activated traffic lights. The lights are at intersections and function as one would expect a traffic light to do. But when cars are detected speeding, the light will turn red EVEN THOUGH NO CARS ARE AT THE INTERSECTION.

When everyone behaves, traffic flows smoothly. When there's a speeder, he (and everyone behind him) must come to a 15-second stop before being allowed to proceed.

Laha

(407 posts)
43. But if they're already too careless to regard the speeding laws
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:07 PM
Apr 2021

why should we expect them to obey the traffic lights?

I think the best incentive would be damage to the vehicles they love so much more than the safety of those around them.

CaptainTruth

(6,546 posts)
42. You could probably do that in a Porsche, or Ferrari, or Lamborghini. An SUV? Not so much.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:44 PM
Apr 2021

THAT'S why I want a Lamborghini, for SAFETY reasons!!!

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
44. "...at a speed to fast for road conditions"
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:48 PM
Apr 2021

How about just driving at an unsafe speed that put himself and others at serious risk?

Did his attorney write the police report?

 

mac2766

(658 posts)
52. Hate hate hate...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:30 AM
Apr 2021

Sure, he was speeding, as we all do from time to time. I believe he may have learned a lesson from his actions - he was seriously injured. I'm also very grateful that noone else was hurt and that's a really good thing.

But hate? Just because he's famous? Think about all of the non-famous people who have driven too fast on a road. I see flowers and memorials erected for people who have lost their lives along the roadways. I also see how people drive. The insanity is run-amok on the highway.

Accidents happen, especially to those drivers who may be driving too fast, or talking on their cell phones, or texting, or eating, OR PUTTING MAKEUP ON. I was rear-ended several years ago by a woman who was putting her makeup on. I was setting idle at a traffic stop when she hit me. She didn't even slow down. Luckily noone was hurt there either.

I once rolled a Jeep while doing 4 MPH. Yes, that's correct - 4 MPH. I guess I was driving way too fast for the conditions.

Accidents happen. To both stupid and not so stupid people.

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