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Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 12:25 AM Apr 2021

GOP lawmaker marks Holocaust remembrance day by likening child mental health bill to Nazi laws

Source: Jewish Telegraph Agency

Daniel Cox, a Maryland Republican in the state legislature, said he would mark Yom Hashoah, Israel’s Holocaust Remembrance Day, by voting against a bill that would allow children to consent to mental health care.

Cox said his mask had a picture from the Nuremberg trials printed on it, and compared the bill to the Nazis’ infringement on “the rights of parents.”

“One of the things that was interesting and very sad in the Nuremberg trials, was the fact that medical professionals interfered with parental rights. And what was the result of those trials? Well, the European Union passed the European Commission on Human Rights, guaranteeing that never again will the state and the healthcare community interfere with the rights of parents, and the rights of family,” he said Thursday. “That’s what this bill does.”

The outrage followed immediately. Barely a minute into Cox’s remarks, Shane Pendergrass, a Democratic delegate, asked to be able to speak from a “point of personal privilege” as a Jew.

Read more: https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/gop-lawmaker-marks-holocaust-remembrance-day-by-likening-child-mental-health-bill-to-nazi-laws



This is yet another example of someone misusing the moniker of Nazis and Nazism.
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GOP lawmaker marks Holocaust remembrance day by likening child mental health bill to Nazi laws (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Apr 2021 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #1
I get your point and agree with much of it thucythucy Apr 2021 #5
I'm not Jewish, but OY!!! Manifest Desmond Apr 2021 #2
I am Jewish agingdem Apr 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Manifest Desmond Apr 2021 #4
what the actual fuck? flibbitygiblets Apr 2021 #8
Do you think I should delete it? Manifest Desmond Apr 2021 #9
Post removed Post removed Apr 2021 #10
Old men forget... lonely bird Apr 2021 #6
Children's rights Jimvanhise Apr 2021 #7
How do we get MIRT in here to wave their magic wand over Manifest, upthread? Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #11

Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

thucythucy

(8,048 posts)
5. I get your point and agree with much of it
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 08:52 AM
Apr 2021

but I don't find the History Channel's obsession with all things Hitler "nuanced" in any way, shape or form.

Mostly it's superficial fluff with re-enactments, oversimplified to the point of actual distortion of the historical record.

The focus, from what I've seen, tends to be on "superweapons" and the occult and glorification of Nazi militarism. And yes, "desensitization" is absolutely one of the outcomes, intended or not.

And while "all things Nazi" may be banned in Germany, this doesn't mean the era is ignored. Far from it. From the Holocaust Memorial in Berlin to the "remembrance stones" to programs such as "The Wansee Conference" (the German version, not the inferior English one) to the depictions of the White Rose to movies like "Down Fall" (popular in America as the basis of a thousand Hitler meltdown parodies) there is at least an attempt to depict the era in ways that don't fall into the fluff driven romanticism of American programming such as seen on the History Channel.

Not that there aren't flaws and controversies surrounding all this. The TV series "Heimat" certainly provoked some criticism. And the responses of the general public detailed in "My Father's Keeper" by Stephan and Norbert Lebert shows that there is much heated back and forth on the worth and meaning of revisiting the history. But in general I find German treatments of the era far more nuanced--and factual--than anything I see on American TV.

Check out Alon Confino's "Germany as a Culture of Remembrance: Promises and Limits of Writing History" for an examination of how German culture has dealt with the history.

Like I said, I see your point about American treatments of the era, in particular the History Channel's programming. But I think the response shouldn't be to ignore the history, which after all is about one of the worst and most cataclysmic times of human history, but to engage honestly and in depth into the hows and whys of what happened.

By the way, I find the same American tendency towards the superficial in our depictions of the Roman Empire. These tend to be "romanticizing" in the extreme, superficial and lurid glorifications.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
3. I am Jewish
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 07:34 AM
Apr 2021

my parents were Holocaust survivors...Auschwitz..this revisionist gentrification of Nazism is nothing new...Joseph McCarthy, Father Coughlin, Henry Ford..the History Channel did not bring us to Trump...he is an entity onto his own...a depraved vengeful amoral conman with a twisted-by-hate charismatic ability to attract the most vile among us...he hated who they hated....he gave their hate a voice, normalized it...they could threaten, maim and kill in Trump's name with little or no consequences...Trump's 1950's Nazification was not limited to Jews...he loathed Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, Asians, Native Americans, the poor, the elderly, the disabled...anyone Trump and his slavering sycophants regarded as less than and not as good as... the History Channel is not responsible for Trump but it is responsible for "selling" the Holocaust, not as the ultimate horror of the 20th century, but as a brand name like Kleenex...

Response to agingdem (Reply #3)

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
8. what the actual fuck?
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 09:39 PM
Apr 2021

Your post is completely inappropriate, vile, gratuitously and unnecessarily salacious, and WAY over the top.

 

Manifest Desmond

(19 posts)
9. Do you think I should delete it?
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 10:15 PM
Apr 2021

The opinions described aren't mine. I was talking about the wingnuts and their wacky imaginations. These are, after all, the same fools who actually think that humanoid lizards run pedophilia rings out of pizza joints!

Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #8)

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
6. Old men forget...
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 10:18 AM
Apr 2021

Memory is an important thing. Never again means never again. Yet, here we have Nazis, fascists, so-called Christian nationalists, Holocaust deniers and Confederacy worshippers. Does the history channel play a role in this? Media always plays a role as does revisionist mythology. Much like Reagan defeated communism which was bullshit, we did not defeat the Nazis all by ourselves.

Memory needs to be preserved. We must also be careful because history gets written by the victors.

Jimvanhise

(301 posts)
7. Children's rights
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 12:01 PM
Apr 2021

Just a couple years ago in the midwest a Republican legislature opposed a bill which would prevent parents from withholding needed healthcare from children for religious reasons because they felt it was an attack on religion!

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
11. How do we get MIRT in here to wave their magic wand over Manifest, upthread?
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 03:03 PM
Apr 2021

The hidden post reveals him to clearly be a really vile troll who got through the net.

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