Iran calls Natanz atomic site blackout 'nuclear terrorism'

[DonViejo]

Source: Politico/Associated Press


But Iran stopped short of directly blaming anyone for the incident.

By ASSOCIATED PRESS

04/11/2021 01:40 PM EDT

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Iran on Sunday described a blackout at its underground Natanz atomic facility an act of “nuclear terrorism,” raising regional tensions as world powers and Tehran continue to negotiate over its tattered nuclear deal.

Ali Akbar Salehi, the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, stopped short of directly blaming anyone for the incident. Details remained few about what happened early Sunday morning at the facility, which initially was described as a blackout caused by the electrical grid feeding the site.

Many Israeli media outlets offered the same assessment that a cyberattack darkened Natanz and damaged a facility that is home to sensitive centrifuges. While the reports offered no sourcing for the evaluation, Israeli media maintains a close relationship with the country’s military and intelligence agencies.

If Israel caused the blackout, it further heightens tensions between the two nations, already engaged in a shadow conflict across the wider Middle East.



Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/11/iran-blackout-nuclear-terrorism-480867

[Lonestarblue]

1. Netanyahu probably trying to sabotage a new agreement with Iran.

He and many Israelis are against the negotiations to reestablish an agreement with Iran on their nuclear goals. Even though Israel takes billions from the US in foreign aid every year, they often do things that complicate US diplomatic efforts. More strings need to be attached to aid for Israel.

[EX500rider]

2. "Netanyahu probably trying to sabotage a new agreement with Iran"

Actually they are trying to sabotage Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. Don't blame them either.

[marie999]

3. Israel has nuclear weapons but Iran can't have them?

Okay, so let Russia have nuclear weapons and we will destroy ours.

[EX500rider]

4. It turns out people trust a democracy like Israel more then they do a religious fundy dictatorship..

...run by Ayatollahs' who make their people chant "Death to Israel" and "Death to the USA"

[marie999]

5. You mean a democracy like the US which dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan?

It had nothing to do with WWII or Japan.

[EX500rider]

6. "It had nothing to do with WWII or Japan." Who said it did?

I said people are fearful of Ayatollahs' on a mission from God having nuclear weapons.
It's telling that Saudi Arabia is fine with Israel having nukes but wants their own if Iran gets them.

[marie999]

7. Israel definitely thinks it has a mission from God.

[ck4829]

8. Probably the same god who told them to "bomb Agrabah" or destabilize Iraq to start the end times

I'm starting to think that deity is actually Satan in a clever disguise.

[EX500rider]

9. Right...

That's why they are smuggling arms into Yemen and funding the civil war there and firing cruise missiles at Saudi oil facilities and funding and smuggling in weapons to Hama's and Hezbollah and propping up the Syrian regime and...oh wait, that's all Iran.

[marie999]

10. Yes and Iran murdered 38 US Marines and Sailors trying to sink a US naval ship and blame Egypt...

Oh wait, that was Israel.

[EX500rider]

11. If you have to go back 54 years...

Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship. Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.


Result: Official apology issued by Israeli government; financial restitution made to victims, victim’s families, and the U.S. government

[marie999]

12. It was not a mistake. Israel knew the ship was a US spy ship.

She would have continued the attack on the USS Liberty if she could have. The reason she stopped is classified.

[EX500rider]

13. I'll take the government investigation report..

... over anonymous person's opinion on the internet

[marie999]

14. I don't blame you.

[cstanleytech]

15. Op never said that they approved of Israel having nuclear weapons in their post.

Now in my opinion I don't like any country to have them and I wish that they were not possible but since that is not likely to happen then we should at least try to keep them out of the hands of countries that are more likely to use them in a first strike offensive.

[marie999]

16. You mean like the US did?

[cstanleytech]

17. You do know that a first strike offensive means that its done immediately as the kickoff for a war?

[marie999]

18. Then what the US did was as bad if not worse because they used nuclear weapons

when they did not have to. The use of the 2 atomic bombs by the US did not have anything to do with ending WWII.

[cstanleytech]

19. Might I ask why you seem to keep trying to justify Iran seeking nuclear weapons?

I mean personally I think its a bad idea for a number of reasons.

[marie999]

27. Because their enemy has them. Why does the US have nuclear weapons, because our enemies have them.

Why did Pakistan develop nuclear weapons, because India has them.

[EX500rider]

20. "The use of the 2 atomic bombs by the US did not have anything to do with ending WWII"

So Japan surrendering 6 days later was just a coincidence I suppose?

And the conventional bombing of Japan caused and would have continued to cause many more casualties then the 2 nuclear bombs did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raids_on_Japan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

[marie999]

21. Before the bombs were dropped, the Japanese government said it would surrender unconditionally

except they wanted to keep their emperor. They did this because they knew that Russia was about to invade them and they knew that they had lost the war and Russia would take some of their islands. Truman refused to allow them to surrender. He dropped the first bomb to show the Russian we had the atomic bomb and he dropped the second one to show the Russians we had more than one and were not afraid to use them. Then Truman allowed the Japanese to surrender unconditionally and would allow them to keep their emperor. Why did he refuse to let them surrender before the bombs were dropped but allowed them to surrender under the same terms after the bombs were dropped?

[EX500rider]

22. Please show me where the Japanese made any surrenders messages to the US govt

prior to the nuclear bombings.

[marie999]

24. Google Debate over the Japanese surrender

You have to read about both sides of the debate and then decide for yourself which is the correct one. I believe that they tried to surrender.

[EX500rider]

25. If they made a actual attempt to surrender to the US govt I would have read about it

What date did they contact the US govt and try to surrender?

[marie999]

26. On July 28th 1945 Japan was in communication with Russia. US intelligence knew.

My question is why did Truman drop the bombs when he knew that Japan was talking to Russia and it was only after the 2 bombs were dropped that he accepted Japan's terms. He could have accepted those terms without dropping the bombs.

[EX500rider]

28. A serious attempt to surrender would have been made to the US

[roamer65]

23. Israel needs to back the fuck off and give diplomacy a chance.

I have a feeling the US - Israel talks happening at this moment they are being told just that.

[joetheman]

30. THAT. Are they trying to do 45 a favor by thwarting Biden's efforts for diplomacy? Yes!

[MosheFeingold]

29. The Iranian mullahs

Are in a bit of a quandary.

They claim they have no enrichment going on (because the sole purpose is weaponry), and yet are forced to complain that somebody broke their enrichment.

As to whether Israel has the moral right to have The Bomb, I leave that to the bigger thinkers. I do know they've had The Bomb for 60+ years and haven't killed anyone with it. And I know the Iranian mullahs are bat shit crazy and evil and will use their bombs just as soon as they can.

So any delay is good. I don't care from who or (too much) how.