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LetMyPeopleVote

(144,951 posts)
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:48 AM Apr 2021

VIRGINIA Officer Accused of Force in Stop of Black Army Officer Fired

Source: NBC News

One of two police officers accused of pepper-spraying and pointing their guns at a Black Army officer during a traffic stop has since been fired, a Virginia town announced late Sunday, hours after the governor called for an independent investigation into the case.

The town of Windsor said in a statement that it joined calls from election officials, including Gov. Ralph Northam, in requesting an investigation by Virginia State Police into the December 2020 encounter in which two Windsor officers were accused of drawing their guns, pointing them at U.S. Army second lieutenant Caron Nazario and using a slang term to suggest he was facing execution.

Nazario, who is Black and Latino, was also pepper-sprayed and knocked to the ground by the officers, Joe Gutierrez and Daniel Crocker, according to the lawsuit he filed earlier this month against them.

Read more: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/virginia-officer-accused-of-force-in-stop-of-black-army-officer-fired/2636829/

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VIRGINIA Officer Accused of Force in Stop of Black Army Officer Fired (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 OP
Here is the press release from the city of Windsor LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #1
That's excellent news.. Rt TY. I read Cha Apr 2021 #8
I want him fired too! FarPoint Apr 2021 #11
Is this how these officers are trained to hold their sidearm? parkia00 Apr 2021 #2
That's not gang banger style, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #4
Good thing there was video Mysterian Apr 2021 #3
Thanks for posting this... I was reading something in the Daily Mail earlier. NurseJackie Apr 2021 #5
My first thread was locked LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #9
Virginia cop fired maliaSmith Apr 2021 #6
You can only be awarded up to what amount you sued for. Dustlawyer Apr 2021 #10
Wait. What? GB_RN Apr 2021 #12
The attorney usually sets the amount after discussing it with the client. Dustlawyer Apr 2021 #18
That Still Doesn't Explain GB_RN Apr 2021 #19
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2021 #7
These fascist cops makes me want to puke. The Jungle 1 Apr 2021 #13
... Scurrilous Apr 2021 #14
Very well said! I applaud your excellent prose, The Jungle 1! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2021 #15
This makes me so angry seta1950 Apr 2021 #16
The cop got pissed that the soldier did not pull over immediately but drove for almost 2 minutes. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #17

Cha

(296,893 posts)
8. That's excellent news.. Rt TY. I read
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 04:42 PM
Apr 2021

this last night in GD & thought it would be Gutierrez who was fired from having read he was more aggressive.

I wonder what will happen to Daniel Crockett now that his partner has been Fired?

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,264 posts)
4. That's not gang banger style,
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:22 PM
Apr 2021

that's a two handed grip, like this:



This is gang banger style:



The two handed grip is generally taught to recruits in their academy training.

maliaSmith

(80 posts)
6. Virginia cop fired
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 04:33 PM
Apr 2021

Why weren't both cops fired and why did it take almost 5 months? They thought we wouldn't find out about it. I hope the court jury awards this young man much more than one million. Police must be required to pay for their own liability insurance and not taxpayers when they murder civilians. It is becoming a habit of police that should never be police.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
10. You can only be awarded up to what amount you sued for.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 04:49 PM
Apr 2021

It is considered malpractice if you sue for an amount and the jury awards a lot more. Defense attorneys try to make the plaintiffs out as greedy because they sued for so much when it is just to cover themselves. Jurors never get told this

GB_RN

(2,338 posts)
12. Wait. What?
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 05:43 PM
Apr 2021

How is it malpractice, if the jury makes an award that just happens to be greater than what is asked for? How is that the attorney's fault? You'll need to explain that.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
18. The attorney usually sets the amount after discussing it with the client.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:27 PM
Apr 2021

In Texas we now can just put within the jurisdictional limits of the court.

GB_RN

(2,338 posts)
19. That Still Doesn't Explain
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:48 AM
Apr 2021

How it constitutes malpractice if the jury decides to award a larger amount - at least not to me. If the jury feels an award (or punitive) amount should be higher, I just fail to see how that falls under malpractice under any circumstances.

As a medical professional, malpractice would be causing injury or other undesirable outcome. And I higher award amount isn’t an undesirable outcome in my mind. I guess it’s a matter of the difference of perspectives. 🤷?♂️

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
13. These fascist cops makes me want to puke.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 05:48 PM
Apr 2021

At the end of the engagement the fascist cops are trying desperately to convince the active duty United States Army Officer that the whole thing was his fault! They knew they were in trouble.
He did nothing wrong. He broke no law. He is not a criminal. Police are employed for LAW enforcement.
If you have committed no crime the police have NO NONE NADA authority over you. They can't tell you to do shit. Every order they gave was an unlawful order. Searching the active duty United Stated Army Officers car was completely illegal. They did not have a warrant or permission.

The active duty United States Army Officer (who swore an oath to protect our nation against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC) asked numerous times what was going on. He wanted to know why he was stopped. THE FASCIST COPS KNEW THEY HAD NOTHING AND NEVER ANSWERED HIS QUESTION. There was no traffic violation! They had NO authority.They are law enforcement, not lets dig around and see if we can find something to screw this guy with.

Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy. Police are a very important part of creating a fascist state.
To many police in America believe they are our overlords and masters and we as Americans need to show them the error of their beliefs. Cameras everywhere is FREEDOM. Always record the police.

Even after being pepper sprayed this American hero stayed in control. A stunning display of contrast when you compare the fascist cops complete lack of self control with the American hero's complete control. Tough as nails he is. The fascist cops were on an adrenaline rush and loving it. Sadistic is what that is. Adrenaline rush is addictive.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,534 posts)
15. Very well said! I applaud your excellent prose, The Jungle 1!
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 06:45 PM
Apr 2021

If I were you, I would post your comment as an original post, so that it gets the attention it deserves.

You have shed a lot of bright light on this situation and it's great.

Thank you for your post!

seta1950

(932 posts)
16. This makes me so angry
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:19 PM
Apr 2021

Why would anyone pull a gun on anyone for a routine traffic stop, that idiot police should of saluted the army medic imho. When is this going to stop,it feels like they are our enemy 😤

SunSeeker

(51,523 posts)
17. The cop got pissed that the soldier did not pull over immediately but drove for almost 2 minutes.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:52 PM
Apr 2021

The soldier, like many people, wanted to pull over in a well lighted, safe area, so he drove to a gas atation.

The cop thought he was evading a stop. But as soon as he pulled him over the soldier's innocent ntent would have been apparent, particularly since the soldier drove withing the speed limit to the gas station.

Looks like the cop just got pissed that the soldier did not obey his orders fast enough for his ego.

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