Trump Floats Pfizer Conspiracy Theory While Blasting Biden For J&J Pause

[brooklynite]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Forbes

[div class="excerpt"TOPLINE Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday, seeking to politicize the decision by U.S. agencies to recommend pausing the rollout of the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccine, criticized President Joe Biden and called it a “terrible disservice,” while floating a conspiracy theory—without evidence—the distribution was halted to benefit Pfizer and its Covid-19 vaccine.

In a statement released on Telegram hours after the FDA and CDC’s announcement, Trump said the decision means the “reputation” of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine would be “permanently challenged,” and rested blame on President Joe Biden directly.

Trump suggested the pause may have been recommended by U.S. health agencies for political reasons or the “FDA’s love for Pfizer,” which refers to a different baseless Trump conspiracy.

Continuing to push the wild conspiracy theory, Trump said the FDA “has to be controlled” especially with “long time bureaucrats within.”

Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/04/13/trump-floats-pfizer-conspiracy-theory-while-blasting-biden-for-jj-pause/?sh=4bfa73bd4491

[50 Shades Of Blue]

1. FUCK HIM!!!!

[ratchiweenie]

3. He's such an ass. Outlets need to stop quoting him.

[birdographer]

29. Exactly

If any other idiot spewed this nonsense, it wouldn't show up at all. They'd shake their heads, say it was sad and pathetic, and move on. There is still a lot of worship going on out there.

[IcyPeas]

37. exactly. why are they still covering him?

[videohead5]

45. Yes!

Sideways with a cactus

[50 Shades Of Blue]

48. You owe me a new monitor!

[sprinkleeninow]

2. ...

From one of the Psalms:

"...As smoke vanishes, let them vanish,
As wax melts before the fire."

[WHITT]

4. How Refreshing

The CDC and the FDA made the science-based decision, and merely notified the White House last night that an announcement was coming in the morning, but they did not learn of the details until this morning when everybody else did.

[JohnSJ]

23. Yes, and yet the media finds the ranting and ravings of a mad man worthy of attention?

Really pathetic

[pazzyanne]

31. Media misses its chaos fix.

Chaos sells, calm competancy does not. To quote AOC, "Its all about the Benjamins."

[JohnSJ]

33. First of all that wasn't AOC who said that, and second the context of the phrase was meant as

an anti-Jewish slur, so I would not use that phrase to reinforce your point in your first part, which was right on.

"Chaos sells, calm competancy does not", make the point very well indeed

[pazzyanne]

34. Thank you for the history of that saying.

My apologies to Jewish people everywhere.

[JohnSJ]

39. Your point was stated so simply, and yet eloquently, that said everything

[pazzyanne]

40. Thank you for that.

[Blues Heron]

36. Benjamin Franklin was Jewish?

I thought it was about 100 dollar bills having Franklin on them.

[JohnSJ]

41. Since the Congressperson who made it apologized for the reference and context

when that Congressperson made it, it was clear it was not about Franklin, but associating money with Jews

It wasn't AOC who made that reference either

[Polybius]

69. What Congressperson apologized?

I thought Biggie Smalls invented the term.

[OLDMDDEM]

5. Hmmm

Dumpy is so insignificant now. He hides away in his rat trap in Florida and expects to get away with murder (literally) from January 6. On top of that is the New York mess he is in as well as the f___up he created in Georgia. And, on top of that are the two dozen women going after him for sexual harassment and worse. Also, hopefully, the feds are looking into his misdeeds of the past four years.

He may get away with some of this, but not all of it. I can envision his properties being "attached" by the city and state of New York. I can also see that the banks would be in second or third position on those properties. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all of the time.

[ananda]

6. Uh oh. I bet Trump's invested in J&J.

And he appears to hate Pfizer.

[PatSeg]

13. And of course,

mostly he hates Joe Biden. He has to get his ridiculous 2 cents in everything chance he can.

[subterranean]

47. He hates Pfizer because of their announcement soon after the election.

He thinks the timing of their announcement of the vaccine results was a political decision because they didn't want to help him win the election. Pfizer said the election had nothing to do with it. I believe Pfizer.

[aggiesal]

67. He hates Pfizer because Pfizer was not part of Operation Warp Speed ...

They did the vaccine on their own dime and got it done faster than the companies (Moderna, J&J) that took Warp Speed money.

That's why I say that Pendejo45 had nothing to do with how fast the vaccine got developed.

[agingdem]

50. Remember Pfizer released it's positive vaccine data

days after the election...Trump was certain Pfizer withheld the data until Joe could accrue enough electoral votes to win the presidency...and if that's the case then G-d bless Pfizer...

[jcgoldie]

7. Because for Trump EVERYTHING is personal

He can't even comprehend that a decision like this could be based on science because everything is personal and corrupt. It certainly would be if he was still president.

[apnu]

8. Dear media. Stop running to Trump for a reaction. He's a loser and fucked us all with this virus.

Seriously, stop going to that fucking guy about anything. He's a cranky old man, retired in Florida, tooling around on a golf cart and bitching about everything. He's not even newsworthy.

[PatSeg]

14. I agree

We cannot ignore the man entirely, as he still has a large and dangerous following, but no journalist should go out of their way to get his twisted viewpoint about anything. There are so many other important stories to cover.

[rickyhall]

57. I'm all for ignoring the son of a bitch. Put a dunce cap on his balding pate & park him in corner.

[LiberalLovinLug]

9. He hates Pfizer because they refused to be part of Operation Warp Speed

And then worse.....they were successful, and the companies in Warp Speed failed.

Cancelling a predictable press conference where Pfizer execs praise Trump's leadership and how they needed his Warp Speed funding to get er done.

He's such an easy book to read

[GopherGal]

28. Agree with the part about the press conference

I can easily see TFG being in a snit because Pfizer execs wouldn't come take part in one of his "dear leader" slaver-a-thons. And resenting their subsequent success. He would have tagged them as the competition.

I don't agree that "the companies in Warp Speed failed" -- Moderna was one of the companies funded through the project and they didn't fail. But that's doesn't affect TFG's toxic mentality.

[monkeyman1]

60. warp speed was pr campaign & adamn joke ! just like drumpf !

[PortTack]

10. Don't care what he says...or thinks!,

[snowybirdie]

11. How about

A separate forum for posting the idiotic rantings of the former guy on DU? Then those who care can access them while the rest of us can just ignore.

[Warpy]

12. Looks like Dumdum didn't have any money in Pfizer

Sucks to be him.

I did.

[h2ebits]

15. Trump 's name shouldn't even BE in this supposed news article

Forbes has certainly taken a step down in my opinion as a legitimate news source. The vaccine was politicized by Trump and cronies and we are suffering because of him and his wild conspiracy theories. His statement is not news and should not be given legitimacy by any real "news" organization.

[Chakaconcarne]

16. Who said what?

[Evolve Dammit]

17. Piss up a rope asshole. QAnon is calling. Better answer... It's your base.

[OAITW r.2.0]

18. Had Biden over ridden the FDA, Trump would be telling us how reckless Biden was.

That's how Republicans operate.

[SeattleVet]

19. tRump who?

Why does anyone care what the former guy has to say?

Watching the degradation of his mental state in real-time is not really entertainment.

[DallasNE]

20. This Is Horrible

We only have one President at a time so it is time for Trump to shut up. But we all know that he is incapable of that.

Some of that is opinion so it can't be fact checked. But the claim of bias toward Pfizer is irresponsible at best. Both Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson need to speak out on this issue and set the record straight.

[GopherGal]

25. I think ignoring TFG is the best idea.

Yes, I know, ironic from someone reading this thread...

Both Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson need to speak out on this issue and set the record straight.

I don't think it's in the interest of either company to publicly entertain the idea that the FDA has a bias in their or their competitors' favor.

[JohnSJ]

26. Pfizer months ago already pushed back against trump's insane rants. Ironically the decision was

most in the hands of FORMER JACKASSES FDA, not Pfizer or Moderna

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-virus-outbreak-donald-trump-business-elections-bba3859d8465c309311bb911af33780f

No doubt, and rightfully so, Pfizer does not want to give anymore attention to trump for his baseless accusations

[bucolic_frolic]

21. Every word Trump utters diminishes Trump further

A seething brain of self-flagellation doesn't know enough to STFU

[CaptainTruth]

22. Florida Man Spouts Nonsense

[greenjar_01]

24. Very important that his idiotic statements see wide circulation

[JI7]

27. Why hasn't he dropped dead already ?

[birdographer]

30. I was just thinking that about 10 minutes ago

The massive amount of crap that that would put an end to is staggering. Like when you pull the bottom card out of a skyscraper house of cards.

[IronLionZion]

46. If he didn't get the experimental monoclonal antibody treatment last fall

he'd probably be dead already

[lastlib]

32. I THOUGHT I heard a gurgling noise......!

Oh, yeah--FUCK the former guy! NOBODY gives a shit about him.

[DallasNE]

35. This Warning, From Dr. Fauci, Speaks For Itself - It Supports The Pause

Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Warning About the J&J Vaccine
The FDA and the CDC recommended a pause in distribution of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine today after discovering six cases of serious adverse events tied to blood clotting. One woman died; another is in critical condition; nearly 7 million have gotten the J&J vaccine with no blood clotting. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the chief medical advisor to the President and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, spoke about the safety of the vaccines this afternoon at a White House press conference. "What does a pause mean?" he asked. "It really allows both the FDA and the CDC to further investigate these cases, to try and understand some of the mechanisms of what it is

[hamsterjill]

62. Good.

Science is ever evolving, and if something can be learned from this “pause” that saves a life or serious side effects down the line, it is appropriate and prudent.

I am amazed at the responses that I’ve seen today saying (paraphrasing) “it’s just six women out of millions”. If you (meaning anyone, not the DU’er to which I’m replying) were one of the six affected, I believe your attitude might be different.

Let the medical authorities investigate, learn and decide how best to proceed. All hopefully as quickly as reasonably possible.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

38. In other countries, Covid is a health issue. In the US, it's a political issue.

Which shows the ignorance of those who make it political.

[StarryNite]

42. tRump is the orange alex jones.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

43. Sue Former Guy for Damages and Defamation

Making slanderous claims and defaming companies without evidence should not be allowed to stand. Sue his fat ass just like Fox is getting sued. This shouldn't be a free speech issue either.

[bullwinkle428]

44. POS is still pissed off at Pfizer for completely bypassing "Operation Warp Speed".

Do people really need further understanding that EVERYTHING is transactional when it comes to this asshole?

[theworldatlarge]

49. Who gives a flying fuck

The only title concerning the MFing lunatic I want to see is that he has dropped dead or he's in jail

[11 Bravo]

51. Trump is the Flounder of former guys. Dean Wormer could have been talking to him.

[LudwigPastorius]

52. Hey, Forbes....

STOP REPORTING what this poisonous, fat sack of shit says.

He is a petty criminal, traitor, and an enemy of the constitution that allows you to operate free of government interference.

It is in YOUR best interest to ignore that orange motherfucker for the rest of his miserable life.

[AntiFascist]

53. It seems pretty clear that Pfizer is the better vaccine...

and the company was able to develop it without Trump's help.

[bucolic_frolic]

54. Nothing motivates MAGA World like a conspiracy to juice the paranoia

They're all out to get me! Let's whine and dine some more!

[iluvtennis]

55. Why does the former guy even care - he said Covid is a hoax. nt

[BHDem53]

56. Now, watch this drive!

[Midnight Writer]

58. Pfizer should sue.

Everybody this asshat slanders should sue him and the outlets giving him air time immediately.

That is the only way we can stop this steady flow of damaging lies.

[Initech]

59. Can we please stop paying attention to him?

Now that he's no longer president, I don't give a shit what he has to say.

[monkeyman1]

61. well is everybody sick of this media bull shit ? i am big dog !

[hadEnuf]

63. And anything this crackpot criminal says is news why?

[left-of-center2012]

64. Why post Trump's craziness on DU ?

Wasn't four years of his insanity enough?

[turbinetree]

65. Fuck Him and that GD horse he rides on he has over 550,000 deaths' on his hands

and he knew and then what is really galling he got his shots in secret and didn't have the balls to do it in public ................

[aggiesal]

66. All I heard was Charlie Brown's teacher ...

I don't care what Pendejo45 says, do you?

[bluestarone]

68. I'd like to request that the ONLY time this assholes name is mentioned on THIS site is when

The SON OF A BITCH is being indicted or going to prison! (of course we can also discuss HIS FUCKING DEATH)

[JudyM]

70. Locking

The consensus of forum hosts is that “the ranting and raving of the disgraced former President are no longer important news of national interest” and so should be posted in GD instead of in the LBN forum.
When he was in the White House we had to post most of his drivel in LBN, but no longer, unless it is genuinely very important news.