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Omaha Steve

(109,970 posts)
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:26 PM Apr 2021

The queen says goodbye to Philip, continues her reign alone

Source: AP

By DANICA KIRKA and JILL LAWLESS

WINDSOR, England (AP) — Sitting by herself at the funeral of Prince Philip on Saturday, Queen Elizabeth cut a regal but solitary figure: still the monarch, but now alone.

The queen sat apart from family members at the simple but somber ceremony at Windsor Castle, in accordance with strict social distancing rules during the coronavirus pandemic. But if the ceremony had been for anyone else, at her side would have been her husband of 73 years, who gave a lifetime of service to the crown.

Wearing a face mask, the queen was dressed all in black, except for the diamond brooch that flashed on her left shoulder — a piece she had often worn on engagements with her husband.

The monarch’s four children — Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Prince Andrew and Prince Edward — sat nearby, as did the queen and Philip’s eight grandchildren. The stripped-back service made their loss somehow more personal for people who often live their lives in public.



Britain's Queen Elizabeth II sits alone in St. George’s Chapel during the funeral of Prince Philip, the man who had been by her side for 73 years, at Windsor Castle, Windsor, England, Saturday April 17, 2021. Prince Philip died April 9 at the age of 99 after 73 years of marriage to Britain's Queen Elizabeth II. (Jonathan Brady/Pool via AP)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/prince-philip-england-coronavirus-pandemic-prince-harry-royalty-c3ba1f44b38475dc0d5d19e74eb50739

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The queen says goodbye to Philip, continues her reign alone (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2021 OP
IMO, not necessarily alone. no_hypocrisy Apr 2021 #1
She should step down to do charity work and give Charles his chance. Peregrine Took Apr 2021 #2
You are incorrect... Elizabeth II can and will be the crown until she joins her prince. NotHardly Apr 2021 #15
Not enough people know that is why she still serves & will not abdicate Hekate Apr 2021 #22
When it was suggested to the Queen's mother canetoad Apr 2021 #27
I know this won't happen, but I'd rather william take King jimfields33 Apr 2021 #3
Why does the monarchy need to survive, from an American point of view? pnwmom Apr 2021 #13
Britain itself didn't though jimfields33 Apr 2021 #20
My question was why should any American care about the monarchy surviving. pnwmom Apr 2021 #23
England tried a Republic. It didn't last. NT mwooldri Apr 2021 #38
My question is still why Americans (or as you call us, "the Americans") should care. pnwmom Apr 2021 #44
Well not really "the same." Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #45
It's basically an expensive mascot, right? n/t pnwmom Apr 2021 #48
I'd say "profitable" rather than expensive. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #50
Then why were they telling Harry they couldn't afford security for them anymore, pnwmom Apr 2021 #52
Because the profits don't translate directly to the Royals' budget, of course. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #53
But there's no reason the budget couldn't be expanded. I'm sure Harry and Meghan pnwmom Apr 2021 #54
I'm sure they were.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #55
Charles as king is not an appealing thought. roamer65 Apr 2021 #5
The Queen may live another 10 years so he will only be king for about 20 years. nt Blasphemer Apr 2021 #14
This is the most anachronistic, racist, money laundering stupidity ever. Why is it still around. efhmc Apr 2021 #16
It is pretty stupid. But Brits love their anachronistic traditions. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #32
Which countries will do that? Treefrog Apr 2021 #35
There have been rumblings from Australia about a republic in the past. roamer65 Apr 2021 #60
Charles is aside from the line of succession. He can advise, but he can never be coronated. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #24
This just isn't true. Charles will be King unless he passes before Queen Elizabeth. Drunken Irishman Apr 2021 #29
What are you talking about? ShazzieB Apr 2021 #33
You're completely wrong about that. Treefrog Apr 2021 #36
EEERRRRRR.. Wrong. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #46
I expect she'll do another year and then step down. OnlinePoker Apr 2021 #31
Or she'll fade fast. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #51
She might get picked up quick by a new suitor ... TomWilm Apr 2021 #4
Thank you arlyellowdog Apr 2021 #9
Yeah and she's a real cougar! NH Ethylene Apr 2021 #19
rumors sheilahi Apr 2021 #41
THat is so emblematic of the time--COVID Separation, but at least she was able to have a funeral hlthe2b Apr 2021 #6
What a lonely and powerful picture. eTXwLA Apr 2021 #7
+1. It is a powerful picture. Kaleva Apr 2021 #8
My grandparents were married 63 years rpannier Apr 2021 #10
+1 pandr32 Apr 2021 #12
Possibly especially when you're the Queen. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #25
One of the CNN correspondents said the Queen has found Deminpenn Apr 2021 #39
Consider this extraordinary woman's life. colorado_ufo Apr 2021 #11
Found the funderal fascinating to watch Deminpenn Apr 2021 #40
Not only did she *live* through WWII, she put on a uniform marybourg Apr 2021 #43
Yes, she did! colorado_ufo Apr 2021 #59
OMG - Danica Kirka! I used to work with her at the AP! calimary Apr 2021 #17
time to retire instead of bitterly continuing to kick your son to the curb who TomDaisy Apr 2021 #18
Way too late for THAT pony to be ridden. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #26
No. I think you're confusing him with his great-uncle Edward III, marybourg Apr 2021 #28
He didn't do any such thing! ShazzieB Apr 2021 #34
You've really got hold of the wrong end of the stick here. Treefrog Apr 2021 #37
No snark here. I wish Elizabeth well and may she find some comfort. She has to hurt. Botany Apr 2021 #21
Anyone can leave condolences at the Royal website. ornotna Apr 2021 #30
May he rest in peace twodogsbarking Apr 2021 #42
a person is crowned not coronated. If you are going to comment on British royalty, demigoddess Apr 2021 #47
Thank you. marybourg Apr 2021 #57
No matter the lifetime of public service and exposure Marthe48 Apr 2021 #49
Did you know Prince Philip's mother Alice Beringia Apr 2021 #56
He was apparently frugal til the day he died TexasBushwhacker Apr 2021 #58

no_hypocrisy

(55,379 posts)
1. IMO, not necessarily alone.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:35 PM
Apr 2021

I believe The Queen will now make Charles more active in her reign, in the tradition of making him an advisor and an apprentice to the throne.

Peregrine Took

(7,583 posts)
2. She should step down to do charity work and give Charles his chance.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:41 PM
Apr 2021

He is quite an environmentalist and I'd like to see what he would do as King.

 

NotHardly

(2,705 posts)
15. You are incorrect... Elizabeth II can and will be the crown until she joins her prince.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 08:09 PM
Apr 2021

In her coronation, Elizabeth II swore to a war ravaged, hungry, and desperate people recovering from the war. You might have also missed the history part where no one of the Royal family fled to the out country while London was being bombed. Her father, the King, had received the thrown when Edward abdicated and the country was under direct threat and attack.

At her coronation, Elizabeth II, knowing her citizens, knowing the history of the UK, knowing that all that had been ravaged needed to rebuild... she swore on her oath, on a bible, and to every citizen in the UK that she would serve honorably and faithfully all the days of her life.

She did not lie and still she serves, and serves with more grace and honor than the vast majority will never know.

canetoad

(21,027 posts)
27. When it was suggested to the Queen's mother
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:23 PM
Apr 2021

That Elizabeth and Margaret should be sent to safety in Canada she replied, "The children will not go without me, I will not go without the King and the King will never go."

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
3. I know this won't happen, but I'd rather william take King
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:41 PM
Apr 2021

I think it stands a better survival that way.

pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
13. Why does the monarchy need to survive, from an American point of view?
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 08:02 PM
Apr 2021

This is the same monarchy we revolted against.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
20. Britain itself didn't though
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 08:54 PM
Apr 2021

Only those that were against it left and came to the United States. The rest of the population accepted the monarch.

pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
23. My question was why should any American care about the monarchy surviving.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:07 PM
Apr 2021

If the monarchy falls, they'll still have parliament and their Prime Minister. The Monarchy isn't supposed to interfere in politics anyway.

mwooldri

(10,827 posts)
38. England tried a Republic. It didn't last. NT
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:40 AM
Apr 2021

There are some republics (e.g. Ireland) where the president, though elected, is a ceremonial figure and has no real power. The UK monarchy is a throwback to days gone by, but in its present form is like a ceremonial presidency except that the monarchy isn't voted on and the winners are via the gene pool lottery. Plus the Americans have a nice phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it". The UK monarchy isn't broke. It does its job.

Plus the English will joke around April 1st that the Queen is taking back America. Won't happen. Plus I wouldn't advocate a monarchy for America. And if a certain ex president ever became King of America I'd happily vote to abolish THAT monarchy. Which can happen any time with the UK monarchy, if it misbehaves.

pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
44. My question is still why Americans (or as you call us, "the Americans") should care.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:18 PM
Apr 2021

If the monarchy falls apart because Charles, for example, is unpopular, and Britain is left with its parliament and Prime Minister, why should Americans care?

The fact that a Republic didn't last long ago doesn't say much about current circumstances.

Happy Hoosier

(9,623 posts)
45. Well not really "the same."
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:38 PM
Apr 2021

The modern monarchy is mostly a cultural/historical institution.

It doesn't have any real political power.

It's not that it "needs" to survive from an American point of view. But a great deal of British national identity is derived from the Monarchy. Not to mention a shedload of tourism. Go to Windsor, or Buckingham Palace on a nice summer day..... THOUSANDS of tourists.

Happy Hoosier

(9,623 posts)
50. I'd say "profitable" rather than expensive.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:06 PM
Apr 2021

I'm 100% sure the net result is a positive to the economy. Royals tourism is big business.

pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
52. Then why were they telling Harry they couldn't afford security for them anymore,
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:14 PM
Apr 2021

and why did they tell Meghan she should keep her job for that same reason?

I guess they just wanted to keep their profit margin high.

Happy Hoosier

(9,623 posts)
53. Because the profits don't translate directly to the Royals' budget, of course.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:34 PM
Apr 2021

Those go into the general fund as taxes/VAT (and individuals pockets as income).

pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
54. But there's no reason the budget couldn't be expanded. I'm sure Harry and Meghan
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:42 PM
Apr 2021

were responsible for their fair share of the profits.

Happy Hoosier

(9,623 posts)
55. I'm sure they were....
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:51 PM
Apr 2021

But the budget is set by Parliament.

Also, I expect the decisions were not entirely based on the budget.

roamer65

(37,974 posts)
5. Charles as king is not an appealing thought.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:43 PM
Apr 2021

I hope she outlasts him and it passes to William.

I think there will be many countries who consider leaving the commonwealth if Charles is king.

efhmc

(16,992 posts)
16. This is the most anachronistic, racist, money laundering stupidity ever. Why is it still around.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 08:22 PM
Apr 2021

SunSeeker

(58,374 posts)
32. It is pretty stupid. But Brits love their anachronistic traditions.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:24 AM
Apr 2021

I guess it reminds them of when they were the most powerful empire in the world. Kinda like how some Americans want the US to go back to the 1950s. It’s all a way to deny reality.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,245 posts)
24. Charles is aside from the line of succession. He can advise, but he can never be coronated.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:10 PM
Apr 2021

William is the heir apparent.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
29. This just isn't true. Charles will be King unless he passes before Queen Elizabeth.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:33 PM
Apr 2021

He is next in line. William after him.

Therefore, he is the heir apparent.

ShazzieB

(22,881 posts)
33. What are you talking about?
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 06:16 AM
Apr 2021

Charles is next in line, as Drunken Irishman says. Always has been, always will be. Not sure why anyone would think he can't be coronated. That's wildly inaccurate

William is second in line, after his father. When Charles takes the throne, William will become Prince of Wales and move up to first in the line of succession.

OnlinePoker

(6,149 posts)
31. I expect she'll do another year and then step down.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:16 PM
Apr 2021

Philip stopped his various crown related activities when he turned 96 and she'll turn that next April. You never know, though. In a lot of cases, spouses don't live for long when they've been married for such a long time and lose their partner. I hate to think of the loss Jimmy or Rosalynn Carter will experience when the other passes.

Happy Hoosier

(9,623 posts)
51. Or she'll fade fast.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:08 PM
Apr 2021

Not unusual for grief to take it's toll.

Phillip was a flawed man, but I think the Queen genuinely love him, and I expect this is hitting her hard.

TomWilm

(1,970 posts)
4. She might get picked up quick by a new suitor ...
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:41 PM
Apr 2021

... such a wealthy widow is in high demand .

sheilahi

(280 posts)
41. rumors
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:18 AM
Apr 2021

Yeah, rumor has it that on her way home she was signing up for Match.com. Too soon?

hlthe2b

(114,683 posts)
6. THat is so emblematic of the time--COVID Separation, but at least she was able to have a funeral
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:47 PM
Apr 2021

Still, I find that photo quite poignant.

 

eTXwLA

(44 posts)
7. What a lonely and powerful picture.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:53 PM
Apr 2021

My condolences to Her Royal Majesty. Losing your best friend of 70+ years has to be miserable, even when you're the Queen. RIP Duke. Thank you for your service.

rpannier

(24,956 posts)
10. My grandparents were married 63 years
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 07:12 PM
Apr 2021

My grandmother wasn't devastated when he died - because he had been ill for a year and wasted away slowly
But, it was still incredibly hard on her even with so much family living near her and willing to help with what she needed
It's got to be difficult for her
The picture is haunting

BobTheSubgenius

(12,245 posts)
25. Possibly especially when you're the Queen.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:13 PM
Apr 2021

She doesn't have pals she can kick back with and share a couple of bottles of zinfandel, air their issues, maybe have a few laughs, and bitch about people that are irking them. She has as solitary life as one can have, surrounded by so many people, most of whom are, no offence, bit players.

Deminpenn

(17,580 posts)
39. One of the CNN correspondents said the Queen has found
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:52 AM
Apr 2021

comfort from walking her Corgi dogs every day.

colorado_ufo

(6,262 posts)
11. Consider this extraordinary woman's life.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 07:31 PM
Apr 2021

She was made Queen of England so young and so unexpectedly, lived through World War II and bombings, survived one crisis after another, and always put her country first. And now, the loss of her constant steady companion and support of 73 years.

Many deride all the pomp and ceremony of the monarchy, but there is much to appreciate in its art and heritage. It is a link to history and a foundation on which to build a future.

We of this age are too quick to throw things away.


Deminpenn

(17,580 posts)
40. Found the funderal fascinating to watch
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:59 AM
Apr 2021

I believe I heard that Windsor Castle was built in 1066 and then thought about all the history in those intervening years. Yes, it was a lot of pomp and circumstance but captivating none-the-less. I can see why the UK and Commonwealth Nations still adore their monarchy.

marybourg

(13,659 posts)
43. Not only did she *live* through WWII, she put on a uniform
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 11:34 AM
Apr 2021

and became a jeep mechanic and driver.

colorado_ufo

(6,262 posts)
59. Yes, she did!
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:40 PM
Apr 2021

And she refused to leave Buckingham Palace during the bombings.

The movie, The Queen, was great!

calimary

(90,789 posts)
17. OMG - Danica Kirka! I used to work with her at the AP!
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 08:24 PM
Apr 2021

Nice gal. We got along. Young, back then, but then again, so was I!

She worked hard. Must be at the London bureau.

It seems a LOT of observers noticed what so many of us here did: the Queen, looking so small and frail, sitting there alone, by the coffin of her husband of 73 years...

I only have to think about that image for a moment or two, and I start getting choked up.

 

TomDaisy

(2,120 posts)
18. time to retire instead of bitterly continuing to kick your son to the curb who
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 08:31 PM
Apr 2021

should have been king decades ago.

marybourg

(13,659 posts)
28. No. I think you're confusing him with his great-uncle Edward III,
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:00 PM
Apr 2021

who renounced the throne to marry Wallis Simpson. Charles is still thePrince of Wales and heir apparant.

ShazzieB

(22,881 posts)
34. He didn't do any such thing!
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 06:30 AM
Apr 2021

Renounce the throne? Not just no, hell no. Don't forget, the reason his mother is queen is because her uncle abdicated, which created a huge crisis in the country as a whole and in the Royal family. She'd never speak to Charles again if he even considered such a thing (which he didn't need to do, anyway).

She swore at her coronation to serve her people all the days of her life. She means to keep that promise, and I'm sure she fully expects Charles to do the same.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
37. You've really got hold of the wrong end of the stick here.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:15 AM
Apr 2021

He is next in line to the throne. He will be king when the queen dies.

Botany

(77,863 posts)
21. No snark here. I wish Elizabeth well and may she find some comfort. She has to hurt.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 08:54 PM
Apr 2021

99 is one hell of a run. I don't think I would want to go that long.

BTW she should retire now and give Chuck sometime being the King.



demigoddess

(6,675 posts)
47. a person is crowned not coronated. If you are going to comment on British royalty,
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:47 PM
Apr 2021

please speak English.

I believe Charles wll be crowned unless he is too old and has signs of dementia or another health problem.

Marthe48

(23,443 posts)
49. No matter the lifetime of public service and exposure
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:59 PM
Apr 2021

in the end, Queen Elizabeth II is human and has suffered a human loss.

Not a single one of us is getting off the planet alive. We need to remember that as we live our lives.

Beringia

(5,625 posts)
56. Did you know Prince Philip's mother Alice
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:20 PM
Apr 2021

had 3 sisters that married German nazis. And that she had a breakdown and was institutionalized by her family against her will and she eventually signed herself out. She had ideas that she was the bride of Christ and she did become a Orthodox Russian nun and helped feed the hungry. She also gave safe haven to a Jewish family during the nazi reign.

Prince Philip was practically an orphan but taken care of by his aunts and uncles.


TexasBushwhacker

(21,289 posts)
58. He was apparently frugal til the day he died
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:26 PM
Apr 2021

He would get his shoes resoled rather than getting new ones. He still had the shoes he wore at his wedding to Elizabeth.

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