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turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:33 PM Apr 2021

Three people are dead amid an active shooter incident in Austin, Texas

Source: CNN

By Hollie Silverman and Alaa Elassar, CNN

Updated 2:03 PM ET, Sun April 18, 2021



CNN)Three people were pronounced dead at the scene of an active shooting incident in Austin, Texas, on Sunday, according to tweets from Austin-Travis County EMS.

There are no reports of other patients, the aency added.

Police said on Twitter they are on scene at the incident at Great Hills Trail and Rain Creek Parkway.

Austin police, fire and EMS all responded for three people suffering gunshot wounds, a tweet from the agency said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/18/us/austin-shooting-three-dead/index.html?utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_content=2021-04-18T17%3A50%3A15&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social

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Three people are dead amid an active shooter incident in Austin, Texas (Original Post) turbinetree Apr 2021 OP
They're certainly making the case for gun control soothsayer Apr 2021 #1
Didn't this state or in the process to make it a Constitutional right to have a gun turbinetree Apr 2021 #3
Permit-less carry maybe? soothsayer Apr 2021 #4
Before long you'll need a permit in Texas to NOT carry a gun peppertree Apr 2021 #6
And people wonder why are health care costs are going up..... turbinetree Apr 2021 #8
Anything to keep the right-wing zombies happy peppertree Apr 2021 #11
You gotta wonder, does Wayne LaPierre stand up and louis-t Apr 2021 #39
Not in public. Aristus Apr 2021 #44
My guess is that he immediately picks up the phone, and says "It's me; damage control time again." peppertree Apr 2021 #46
"It's Wayne - book the yacht, stat!!" hatrack Apr 2021 #47
+1 peppertree Apr 2021 #48
I can see this. Will a cap gun or rubber band shooter fool them, you think? catrose Apr 2021 #13
I wouldn't try it. peppertree Apr 2021 #15
Just found this article.. turbinetree Apr 2021 #7
Yeah, no training, no licensing, just getcher gun and wave it around. catrose Apr 2021 #12
Texas Repugs seem to think life's one, long John Wayne movie peppertree Apr 2021 #18
Limp what? Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2021 #35
You know - that gimp John Wayne often had, particularly in his later years peppertree Apr 2021 #45
Just awful. Kath2 Apr 2021 #2
What the fuck is going on in America? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2021 #5
My thoughts, exactly. Kath2 Apr 2021 #9
the Lockdowns put a lid on the gunfire. maxsolomon Apr 2021 #17
Keep Your Flags At Half Staff COL Mustard Apr 2021 #10
Rather nice side of town, too, not the side people write off as "not us" and "who cares about them?" catrose Apr 2021 #14
Northwest side of town. Paladin Apr 2021 #19
Right. Me too. I've been sending out texts, but haven't heard back from anyone. catrose Apr 2021 #22
Police reported that it was a targeted wnylib Apr 2021 #30
Indeed susanr516 Apr 2021 #50
Heartbreaking. hamsterjill Apr 2021 #16
Just heard on my local Philly news radio station BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #20
Every angry lame brain is venting with firepower bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #21
I truly wish we were near some kind of end point, but I fear the violence is here to stay. Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #41
That's not far from where I live.. 3 or 4 miles north. ananda Apr 2021 #23
Hi Ananda. I was just at that intersection on Friday. It's a street I use frequently. Lonestarblue Apr 2021 #33
I know. It's just awful. Thank goodness they did catch him... ananda Apr 2021 #53
DM is reporting that the suspect is a fired sheriff detective Aerator Apr 2021 #24
Post again without comment AZLD4Candidate Apr 2021 #25
David Pakman's tweet area51 Apr 2021 #49
People bdamomma Apr 2021 #26
Another domestic incident apparently. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #38
guess we gonna still pretend guns got nothing to do with all these shootings KG Apr 2021 #27
What I never could understand about NC. marie999 Apr 2021 #28
Because open carry is for suckers. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #37
Most states had at leaast background checks. It's the wild west now. NRA won. So far. Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #42
This is why I support Moms Demand Action. Kath2 Apr 2021 #29
When the cops find the shooter does he get a bottle of water or two?? Bengus81 Apr 2021 #31
He is a black ex law enforcement so they will probably be conflicted Aerator Apr 2021 #36
People are gunning down Americans because... sanatanadharma Apr 2021 #32
Did one of Alex Jonestown's cult members go berserk again? Crowman2009 Apr 2021 #34
It's Texas. Where were all the good guys with guns? louis-t Apr 2021 #40
The "good guy" cop had the gun and used it on those he knew??? WTF Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #43
Fuck. LudwigPastorius Apr 2021 #51
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Apr 2021 #52

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
3. Didn't this state or in the process to make it a Constitutional right to have a gun
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:36 PM
Apr 2021

or its in one of those right wing states making this some law...........

peppertree

(21,620 posts)
6. Before long you'll need a permit in Texas to NOT carry a gun
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:40 PM
Apr 2021

"Ok, granny. You know the rules."

"But, officer. I wuz just goin' to the hair salon! I don't need no gun for that!"

"No exceptions, m'am. The law's the law."

peppertree

(21,620 posts)
11. Anything to keep the right-wing zombies happy
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:49 PM
Apr 2021

And for them all that matters, as you know, is "owning the libs!"

They'll be owning a bib, if their head is ever in the way of a stray bullet.

louis-t

(23,284 posts)
39. You gotta wonder, does Wayne LaPierre stand up and
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 06:40 PM
Apr 2021

put his fist in the air and yell "YEAH!!" every time there is a mass killing?

peppertree

(21,620 posts)
46. My guess is that he immediately picks up the phone, and says "It's me; damage control time again."
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:06 PM
Apr 2021

That's all that creature ever worries about - that, and the millions he grifts from the loyal NRA donors.

peppertree

(21,620 posts)
48. +1
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:36 PM
Apr 2021

Every other Republican I've met over the years (especially older, wealthier ones) seems to be obsessed with an "Argentina-style collapse."

They seem to think they can escape safely on their yachts and with their gold from the hyperinflation and the ensuing riots - and indeed, they seem to relish the idea.

I'm sure Wayne LaPee does too.

peppertree

(21,620 posts)
15. I wouldn't try it.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:11 PM
Apr 2021

Texas' finest can get real Gestapo-ish if they think you're trying to outsmart them.

And if, besides, you're a minority or just don't have a southern accent...shiiit. You may never be seen again.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
12. Yeah, no training, no licensing, just getcher gun and wave it around.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:01 PM
Apr 2021

Damn, I am never going out of the house, pandemic or no. Not that that will save me.

peppertree

(21,620 posts)
45. You know - that gimp John Wayne often had, particularly in his later years
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:02 PM
Apr 2021

Zsa Zsa Gabor, who was said to have had a brief affair with the notoriously amorous Wayne, was once asked whether the rumors that he had had a stroke after being with her were true.

"No, dahlink," she replied. "But he never walked the same away afterwards."

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
19. Northwest side of town.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:36 PM
Apr 2021

I've got plenty of school friends who live in that area---hope to hell they're not involved.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
22. Right. Me too. I've been sending out texts, but haven't heard back from anyone.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 04:01 PM
Apr 2021

I'm not sure what building's involved, if any, but it's near Trader Joes and PF Changs, lots of retail and restaurants.

wnylib

(21,417 posts)
30. Police reported that it was a targeted
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:04 PM
Apr 2021

killing of people known to the shooter. No bystanders were injured. But he is still at large and armed. They fear he might take a hostage to get out of the area.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
16. Heartbreaking.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:12 PM
Apr 2021

Heartbreaking that it happened today.

Heartbreaking that it happens at all.

Heartbreaking that it keeps happening with nothing done to stop it.

BumRushDaShow

(128,735 posts)
20. Just heard on my local Philly news radio station
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:44 PM
Apr 2021

I think some of this has been going on all along but was kept as a "local" news story. But given the "mass shootings" and gun control debate being in the news, these are incidences are getting more play and are certainly justification for why SOMETHING has to be done.

I think everyone knows that "regular criminals" are going to do what they are going to do and will make sure they get access to what they need in order to carry out their crimes. But if there was some way to make it hard for the "casual" malcontent to avail themselves of a weapon that apparently now can be had so easily, I think that they can at least knock a chunk of these horrible shootings out of the stats.

bucolic_frolic

(43,121 posts)
21. Every angry lame brain is venting with firepower
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:59 PM
Apr 2021

In the stock market there was at one time the phrase "The Million Dollar Hour", and of course there is Peak Oil. This is the climax of something.

Evolve Dammit

(16,719 posts)
41. I truly wish we were near some kind of end point, but I fear the violence is here to stay.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:27 PM
Apr 2021

The political will in DC is just not there on one side.

Lonestarblue

(9,963 posts)
33. Hi Ananda. I was just at that intersection on Friday. It's a street I use frequently.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:25 PM
Apr 2021

This is chilling. And it’s a very nice part of Austin, so not used to gun violence. People are just so angry these days, and guns and anger do not mix well. I’m hoping they catch this guy soon.

Aerator

(189 posts)
24. DM is reporting that the suspect is a fired sheriff detective
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 04:24 PM
Apr 2021

That was fired for sexual abuse of a child .

area51

(11,902 posts)
49. David Pakman's tweet
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:38 PM
Apr 2021

goes with your picture:




"I guess we just sort of have to have flags at half-staff all the time now?"

bdamomma

(63,822 posts)
26. People
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 04:51 PM
Apr 2021

are gunning down Americans, for what reason, mental health issues and treatment need to be seriously assessed.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
28. What I never could understand about NC.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:03 PM
Apr 2021

When we went for our CWP we had to watch a video, then take a test on the laws, take a firing test at the range, and get fingerprinted. But if you open carry you just do it no test.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
31. When the cops find the shooter does he get a bottle of water or two??
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:05 PM
Apr 2021

Black guy would be gunned down AFTER they told him to exit the vehicle

sanatanadharma

(3,694 posts)
32. People are gunning down Americans because...
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:12 PM
Apr 2021

People are gunning down Americans because guns are promoted as needed, useful and powerful, a cure to all your fears.

Just as drug companies promote products on TV, ask your doctor?, because it sells.
Just so the gun culture has sold a snake-oil medicine; when it poisons you, they say you are using it wrong.

Having a gun is the whole point. Using it is the reason to have it.
But, fear, need gun; no, no fear, no need to use gun. Not having a gun guarantees that you will not shoot someone.
People tend to be more fond of their own knuckles than of others' lives.

Guns on TV are all the rage and the more make-up-artist realistic the gore. the happier the viewing audience is.
Gone is the simpler time of bloodless B&W TV killings.
Generations have grown up with guns glorified.
American culture is the mental disease., a religion, a cult, a danger of deplorables for whom blood sacrifice is simply sport.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
52. People Control, Not Gun Control
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:01 AM
Apr 2021

Read about the suspect here...
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/04/18/stephen-broderick-austin-shooting-suspect-arboretum/7278131002/
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This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

For those who want to argue legality, please reference: The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman

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