Millions Are Skipping Their Second Vaccine Shot

[DonViejo]

Source: PoliticalWire/New York Times


April 25, 2021 at 9:34 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

More than 5 million people have skipped their second shot of the COVID-19 vaccine, the New York Times reports.

“The reasons vary for why people are missing their second shots. In interviews, some said they feared the side effects, which can include flulike symptoms. Others said they felt that they were sufficiently protected with a single shot.”

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[oldsoftie]

1. Ugh. I know 3 people who had side effects after #2; none bad at all.

Get the damn shot.
I was worried too. Show me a list of side effects & i'll get 1/2 of them

[Arkansas Granny]

5. I had side effects, friends and family members had side effects. No one I've

talked to or read about had anything more than mild symptoms. I don't understand why you would not get the second shot.

[Roy Rolling]

33. Same Here

I was tired for a day and slept a lot. For this mild reaction people are too fearful? What a bunch of cowards, if you ask me.

[Claire Oh Nette]

64. Cowards....

I had mild covid in December, the week they announced the vaccines were going for authorization, and it was an ass kicker.

Never spiked a fever--my baseline is 97.1, and I topped out at 99.9.
Worst was the joints pain and body aches, and the extra gravity I lived under. Post COVID tinnitis, hot flashes (different from over 50 hot flashes), and lingering fatigue.

I also got vaccinated in March and the first week in April. Pfizer. 1st shot, meh. Sore arm like any flu shot. 2nd shot put me down for two days. That said, the side effects were nothing compared to mild COVID. The side effects are no worse than a flu.

It's either fear of needles (for the big, tough, muy macho manly working class men) or deliberate politicking of medicine. Until unvaccinated disease people are shut out of the nicer things--bars, restaurants, airplanes, cruises, hotels--they won't comply.

We need to press businesses we do business with to insist on proof of vaccination. We do it for schools, so that as adults, we don't have to worry anymore.

[xxqqqzme]

120. Being tired and napping plus

a mild headache off and on over the next day. Second shot late on a Friday afternoon. Back to normal by Sunday.

[tblue37]

60. I had none after first shot, was a bit sleepy from second shot. No other side effects (Pfizer).

[Mosby]

99. Same here

Slept about 3 hours more after the second shot.

[obamanut2012]

82. I got slammed for days after my second shot

It was pretty bad, and still have some periods of fatigue almost three weeks later. I knew that might happen, and it was worth it to be vaxxed. I;d do it again. My GF also had it rough for about three days.

I had the Dolly Shot.

[Thtwudbeme]

127. I felt like dog crap after the second shot

Body aches, lethargy, headache. Had to lay on the couch for 12 hours.

So much better than being on a vent! I would do it again tomorrow, knowing how I would be feeling.

[intheflow]

19. My first shot was hellish.

Moderna. I couldn't sleep that night due to the pain in my arm and sweats. Next day I was horribly achy and had a headache that bordered on a migraine. My sister and mom had similar after their first shots, and much worse after the second. I'm dreading the second shot, but of course I'll get since I understand science and know I'm not fucking vaccinated until my vaccination regiment is complete. Do these people get antibiotics and stop taking them before the pill bottle is empty?

[oldsoftie]

27. The folks I know who had issues after the 1st had none after the 2nd. Hope thats you!

I had no issues but my 94 yr old mom didnt feel well the next day. Just "i feel worn out" and a lot of moaning even though no pain. The following day she was back to normal.

[obamanut2012]

83. Not true

I was slammed after both, as was my GF, and quite a few other people I know. A few days of feeling bad is worth it.

[oldsoftie]

110. It was true for the ones I know. I'm simply hoping the same for that poster.

I had nothing after either. Except the sore arm

[lambchopp59]

35. Its possible you've fought off asymptomatic COVID, or had it

Those recovered from COVID most often have the worst time of it after the 1st shot.
If you haven't had the bug, and still have severe symptoms after the shots, it's very likely you are very susceptible to severe COVID if you catch it. Hang in there, tough it out. It's worth it.
New statistics out today showing the vaccines do work, they won't 100 percent prevent, nothing will. But positivity rates of healthcare workers went from 0.41 percent, with some severe and some fatal, to 0.05 percent after vaccinations, none of which required hospitalization.
I caught the bug early, so did the nurse of the patient who didn't make it. Both of us were sicker than the proverbial dogs, didn't get hospitalized or intubated, but the nurse retired, she'd had enough. I've had problems ever since.

[intheflow]

46. Did you read my post or just the header?

Because I said I would be getting my second shot.

[lambchopp59]

49. Just encouragement.

My sister in law has similar trepidation about her upcoming second dose.

[intheflow]

50. Okay, then. Thanks! n/t

[Retired Engineer Bob]

116. Had effects from shot 2 of Pfizer

No worse than 2nd of shingles. 24 hours later it was over. Sure as hell beat getting an Intubation tube shoved down my throat.

Get the damned shot!

[Stuart G]

117. Well said, "Sure beat getting an intubation tube shoved down my throat"

....Outstanding analysis....K and R your post....

[onetexan]

121. Yup,better a couple days of lethargy now than alot worse BUT

given the vaccines are so new & w/out alot of time yet, and hence the fact theres been few studies re:efficacy, i did hear some virology experts on TV say it that the 1st dose may be enough to protect against serious cases where one wld have to be hospitalized. I get my 2nd shot this week so im glad but i get it that for many people its a hassle w the kids being homeschooled & parents juggling work while tending to them. Not excusing them but i do understand its hard to fit in.just glad they at least have had the 1st dose.

[soothsayer]

2. Come on, people. Please don't make this worse for all of us

[SoCalDavidS]

3. Have I Mentioned Lately How I Hate Americans & Humans In General?

I Do. The last 5 years, but more specifically, the last 14 months, I've really grown to despise others in general.

I've always kind of preferred my alone time, but now I don't mind being by myself all the time, so I can avoid interacting with the scum out there, masquerading as human beings.

[pandr32]

36. I avoid people, too

My low opinion of those I see out there in the stores, on the roads, and out at the parks and beaches has not been upgraded.

[SuperCoder]

45. I hear ya - but I hate right-wingers

Those are the people I hate - the right-wing, racist, anti-vaxxers who have no factual basis for their "belief system" and it's all based on lies.

Left and moderates are good people. Sadly, they're drowned out by the right-wing racist anti-vaxxers who think it's acceptable to comment on anything and everything with no filter and no judgment as to whether or not their opinion is acceptable.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

88. +1...

... yep, my experiences/views, too. On FB, I see relatives of mine that I have at times been close to, will post some way out of far right field posts/memes ("Why are they picking on Trump? He gave up so much to lead this nation) get hearts and thumbs up rec's from those who I have always considered a distant friend, ie... their crowd is their echo chamber. For one reason or another; half the rec's can be attributed to where their money comes from, the others... the ones that go bug eyed if anything more than a five letter word is used in the process of discourse.

I could elaborate, but I will spare you from the, "TMI", paradox.

[appalachiablue]

47. I thought I was the only one...lol

[miyazaki]

93. Rolf, i've always hated em'.

Overrated species. Americans are the worse.

[RKP5637]

98. I'm getting that way, especially after about 80 million voted for an ass like Trump. Makes me wonder

who I'm next too. This not getting vaccinated thing is such a load of crap ... I can't believe the ignorance and stupidity some have, and clearly a woeful lack of education replaced with vaccine paranoia. ... and then those fools who think just the first of two shots needed is very sufficient ... FFS, such knowledgeable lay immunologists.

[BigmanPigman]

101. Most of the people I know

think that if dogs replaced people the world would be 99% better off.

[MineralMan]

4. Millions Are Stupid. But, We Knew That Already.

[Hekate]

73. My dad used to sing a little one line exasperation ditty: "Oh the world is full of idiots"...

I didn’t use to really believe it, and now — So sad, so true.

[MineralMan]

75. It's difficult not to recognize that as a fact.

I go by the rule of thirds:

One third of people are kind, generous, thoughtful people.
One third of people are total assholes.
The remaining third just looks at things and says, "Huh?"

The question always is, "What will the third third actually do?"

Our elections ride on that question. Pretty much everything does.

As I say in my signature line, this is my opinion. The opinions of others might differ.

[NoMoreRepugs]

6. What a caring Christian society we live in where having an

ache or fever or even flulike symptoms yourself is far more important than possibly helping to spread a contagion that has killed nearly 600,000 Americans.
Sacrifice today means making your own coffee versus picking it up at Starbucks.

[Skittles]

96. when I think about what my mum and her family went through in WWII in England

and seeing these whiny-ass people here not willing to wear a mask or get properly vaccinated.....

[NoMoreRepugs]

105. Exactly. My Dad, FIL, every uncle served in WW2 - nobody got drafted, volunteered.

The Greatest Generation is so far removed from today it’s unrecognizable.

[Retired Engineer Bob]

118. Indeed

Going through the Blitz, and remaining stoic was heroic. What a bunch of whining trumptards some have become. I’m sure the same a-holes would have bitched blacking our their windows was a severe threat to their rights.

[oldsoftie]

126. And think about turning in used cooking oil, used rubber, no butter, etc

Todays people would be raising hell at the thought!

[NewHendoLib]

7. Amazing how our species demonstrates their stupidity and ignorance on a daily basis.

[Jon King]

8. Because Facebook and Instagram are full of videos of side effects....

When someone either gets a side effect or pretends to get a side effect, they post video on Instagram and Facebook. The other 100000 who do not have anything of note don't post it. So in our social media obsessed culture, the 500 videos have overwhelmed the hundreds of thousands of positive outcomes.

[turbinetree]

67. Facebook has no standing or any principles of not posting that stuff

they only care about greed and the ad they get for more greed, they can say get your second shot and be responsible....because Facebook can say to its employees for example, that fi you want to come back on our property to work, which will happen you will have to prove that you got your "shots"...

[womanofthehills]

128. Some young people are posting pretty severe side effects on TicToc

Last week 3 young women who were paralyzed from from Vax posted from the hospital or from rehab. All got the use of their arms back but could not wallk at time of posting. Some have posted pics of getting Bell’s palsy. Most of the kids posting back - are accusing the sick of being stupid for getting the vaccine. Just reporting what I have witnessed on the site. I would not have checked it out except my 10 yr old grandson put TicToc on my phone.

[dalton99a]

9. Severe side effects are severely over-reported in social media and word of mouth

For most people it's a sore arm and possibly fatigue that goes away by the next day

[cinematicdiversions]

23. Well that is true everything from police shootings

To kids gone wild. If people lack the fundamental understanding that this is a country of 330 million so some crazy is going to happen every day somewhere than there is little we can do to help such unfortunates.

[JohnSJ]

39. Of course. Those who have mild or no side effects usually don't post

[groundloop]

10. One problem is drama queens who exaggerate how "sick" they were ......

I know a few of those drama queens who love to complain about anything and everything, they spent their time after the second dose making posts about how TERRIBLE it was. Their friends & family pick up on that and here we are.

My wife just lacked energy and felt tired for one day after the second shot, not a real big deal. I was essentially the same, just kind of BLAH for a day and that was it. We've both refrained from even mentioning that little bit to avoid scaring anyone we know out of getting vaccinated.

[oldsoftie]

29. There ya go. In a nutshell.

[LisaL]

104. Some people also blame all kind of shit on vaccines, when in reality,

likely those things had nothing to do with being vaccinated.
I also didn't have a lot of side effects after my second shot. I had a low grade fever and didn't feel well the next day (like having a cold), but that was it. It certainly wasn't a big deal.

[marmar]

11. "Others said they felt that they were sufficiently protected with a single shot."

More self-appointed MDs.

[RKP5637]

17. Apparently we have many brilliant immunologists that self diagnose.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

92. A single shot is not enough. A shot and a beer, that'll work. nt (kidding - had two moderna)

[Pobeka]

12. Media did huge disservice saying 80% effective after one shot.

So called "science writers & reporters" never bothered to look at the actual studies -- which yes, showed 80% effective just one week before the second shot in trials.

Problem is, everyone in those trials received the second shot one week later, there is no one dose trial, just a one week period right before the second shot where 80% effective was realized.

I'm pretty sure the immunoligists who came up with two dose treatment had a very, very good reason for doing so.

[ancianita]

24. Multiple doses have been a feature of polio immunization, and measles, I think. So there's

scientific precedent. Virus immunity requires sustained antibody strength.

[paleotn]

41. That's what happens...

when those reporting have little to no knowledge, even basic understanding, of the subject they're reporting on. Or feel the need to think about what they're hearing and ask follow up questions. But, haey! In Amurka, everyone's an expert! Including reporters who haven't cracked a basic biology text since high school.

[former9thward]

103. There is scientific disagreement on this.

The British have delayed the second shot to get it to more people. Their death rates have gone down faster than the U.S. Others in the U.S. have disagreeded with Fauci.

https://www.rollcall.com/2021/04/05/fauci-sticks-with-two-dose-vaccine-regimen/

https://apnews.com/article/uk-study-2nd-virus-vaccine-shot-delay-53c40e579c3209a77ffc6ca798aff1a7

[Pobeka]

106. There is *no* data to disagree on. There is no single dose trial for Moderna or Pfizer.

Every trial is (has been) a two dose trial. The only single dose period is the time from the first dose to the second dose.

No one will know about a single dose unless enough people are in a controlled study. Veering away from two doses is going into uncharted territory, and may put the entire population at risk.

I have looked at the actual study designs to confirm this, not the hear-say from what reporters thought they heard someone say.

[former9thward]

108. The death rates in the UK have gone down faster than the U.S.

You consider that "no data"?

[Pobeka]

109. Yes. I consider that no data.

You can't possibly compare one country vs another country. Too many uncontrolled (not well understood) variables.

It takes a controlled trial.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

122. The question of whether it makes more sense to get everyone their first shot first

In terms of keeping the most people alive, in a situation where there's scarcity ... is different from whether one should get their second shot when its available.

[former9thward]

124. When people have to stand in lines there is scarcity.

When people have to jump around on the internet to find a place giving shots there is scarcity. When people on DU do posts celebrating that they finally are getting the shot there is scarcity.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

125. Yes I know that. I'm not saying there's not.

The discussion is about people not taking the 2nd shot because of personal choice, not because they simply can't get it yet.

The question of how to distribute/prioritize it at the country-wide level is a different discussion.

[marie999]

13. 2 days after receiving his 1st Moderna shot my husband was in great pain.

He said he would not get the second shot. I told him to go to his doctor to see what was wrong. He had an infection that could not be attributed to the shot. He got the second shot.

[Biophilic]

14. I had 2 weeks of symptoms after 2nd shot. I would do it again. It's the right thing to do.

Sometimes things are a little more difficult, but if the end result is the right thing than it's worth doing. I was frustrated as hell, but I never once thought I had made a mistake. Getting fully vaccinated is the right thing to do for yourself, your family, and your country. Geeze guys, get over it. Just do it. It's not just for yourself you selfish wimps.

[CousinIT]

15. IOW: ignorance - with a bit of laziness mixed in. n/t

[RKP5637]

16. I really had no reaction at all to the 2nd shot. I was expecting something and nothing happened. nt

[Haggard Celine]

66. I had no reaction to either shot.

I've read that half of those vaccinated don't have side effects. Wish that fact was reported more often. Seems to me that at least some of the side effects reported are psychosomatic reactions. When so many bad reactions are heard of, a lot of people expect to have side effects and then every problem they have gets magnified and is attributed to the vaccine. I'm not talking about most people who have a reaction, of course, but I think it's a large minority.

[RKP5637]

81. Yeah, quite true!!! n/t

[Random Boomer]

91. Same here

I was prepared to be ill, had a long weekend planned afterward, but didn't need it (at least not for recovery). My wife had a really sore arm, but I didn't even have that. All in all, we got off easy.

[RKP5637]

97. Some have a really bad reaction. When I was at the large site for the 2nd shot one of the

men fell off his chair in the 15 minute waiting area. The EMT's rushed over to help him, but just put him back in his chair. He was pretty heavy, so maybe he shifted his weight too much and slid off the chair.

[MichMan]

18. I had the J and J version, so I am one of those skipping the 2nd shot

[intheflow]

20. You're not "skipping the second shot."

You don't need the second shot. That is not the same thing at all.

[JohnSJ]

44. LOL.

[MichMan]

48. I didn't expect it to affect my sex life like it did

My arm was sore as hell

[JohnSJ]

52. You're cracking me up. I suspect your first post in this subthread was sarcasm

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

95. When the nurse asks "which arm?" ...

... do not joke, "the short arm".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-arm_inspection#:~:text=The%20term%20%22short%2Darm%20inspection,diseases%20and%20other%20medical%20problems.

[PatrickforB]

21. I had mild side effects after shot #2, but figured it was better than dying

of COVID. So I got it.

[truthisfreedom]

22. Who cares. They're pretty good at above 70%, better than many flu shots I've had over the years. Let

us just hope that they'll get the booster shots and keep helping.

[Jon King]

26. Good point, recent data says at least 50% effective longer term after one dose only...

Talking long term protection, latest data is for 2 months after only one dose. Looks like about 50% effective regarding severe symtoms vs 95% with 2 doses.

So one dose is definitely much better than no vaccine at all. At this point if we can convince people to at least get one dose, we are better off.

[LisaL]

32. One dose of either Pfizer or Moderna didn't produce a lot of antibodies.

There is a reason they went with two doses.
While one dose provides some immunity, nobody tested how long that immunity lasts.

[dalton99a]

53. +1. It took two doses to demonstrate strong antibody AND memory B cell responses

The memory B cells are key

https://news.virginia.edu/content/why-mrna-vaccines-need-two-doses-best-work-and-what-delays-might-mean

[SWBTATTReg]

69. Thanks for posting, very informative. NT

[littlemissmartypants]

70. Thanks for this. ❤ What the Immune System Does Between the First and Second Dose

From the article. . .
WHY MRNA VACCINES NEED TWO DOSES TO BEST WORK – AND WHAT DELAYS MIGHT MEAN
Sub Header:
What the Immune System Does Between the First and Second Dose:

The biology through which the mRNA vaccines induce their protection from COVID-19 is fundamentally different from that with other vaccines.

Pfizer and Moderna vaccines use messenger RNA that encodes the spike glycoprotein. Upon injection of the vaccine, the mRNA enters into immune cells called dendritic cells. The dendritic cells use the instructions written in the mRNA to synthesize the hallmark spike glycoprotein, which characterizes the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19. These immune cells then show the spike glycoprotein to B-cells, which then make anti-spike antibodies.

Dendritic cells recognize viruses and present information about the spike protein to T-cells. T-cells provide information about the viral spike protein to B-cells, which are transformed to memory B-cells that store information about the virus. When this memory B-cell is activated with an infection or the second dose of the vaccine, this causes some of the B-cells to change into plasma B-cells that secrete protective antibodies that fight the virus.

The mRNA vaccines are uniquely capable of inducing a special kind of immune cell – called a T-follicular helper cell – to help B-cells produce antibodies. The T-cells do this through direct contact with the B-cells and by sending chemical signals that tell the B-cells to produce antibodies. It is this help in antibody production that makes these vaccines so effective.

More...

https://news.virginia.edu/content/why-mrna-vaccines-need-two-doses-best-work-and-what-delays-might-mean

I had my first Moderna. I was sick for four days with fatigue, nausea, muscle and join pain with a sore arm, shoulder. I'd do it again a hundred times if I could help my family, friends and neighbors fight getting Covid.

(I was also brought up in a family that believes it is rude to talk about one's medical issues in so called "polite company" but here we are...)

Thanks for sharing the article, dalton99a.

❤

[intrepidity]

100. The devil is in the details, isn't it?

Immunology is effing complicated and difficult enough for educated people to understand, much less John Q. Public who feels qualified to determine that "one shot is enough". Oof!

[ForgoTheConsequence]

42. People that actually want this to end.

Where did you go to school for immunology?

[piddyprints]

25. Well, it's possible that I'm in that number.

I keep getting texts from TN Dept. of Health reminding me to get my 2nd shot. But they don't provide a link to tell them I got it over 2 weeks ago.

Meanwhile, v-safe just checked in on me yesterday. So they know.

Something else very strange happened: The day before my 2nd Pfizer, I got an email saying that I was scheduled for Pfizer 1st dose the following day. I called someone and they said, no I'm scheduled for my 2nd Pfizer. I had already printed the correct email weeks before. They didn't know why I got the other email, and it remains a mystery. Guess I'll call tomorrow to see why they don't know I had my 2nd dose.

[gopiscrap]

28. I had Moderna twice

after the first shot a bit of a sore arm for about 2 days and after the second, the only side effect I had was a bit of a sore arm for about 3 days and for the first 36 hours afterwards I could stay awake

[MiniMe]

87. Me too

But I had almost no side effects. It makes me feel old because they have said that older people don't get as many side effects. My personal feeling is that it has to do with the small pox vaccine. Everybody my age got one. I got 2 small pox because of travel requirements. I could be completely wrong. I got the 2nd one because of a trip to europe I took with my parents, and we had to get a small pox vaccine for that trip.

[bluestarone]

30. Social media is the BIGGEST problem

STUPIDITY is the next problem.

[lookyhereyou]

63. yup and they compound each other

[bluestarone]

84. Yeppers!

A big Welcome here BTW!

[Phoenix61]

31. While 5 million is a big number there have been over

100 million vaccines given. 35 million have gotten both shots.

[mbusby]

34. Had my second shot...

...I turned green, busted all my buttons off and ran around in tight circles.

[Politicub]

40. I had flames on the side of my face.

[GreenEyedLefty]

37. I considered the possibility of postponing my 2nd shot

Because I tested positive for Covid 15 days after my 1st shot (Moderna). Thanks to the 1st shot my case was mild and short lived... I tested negative in time for my 2nd shot.

[Politicub]

38. The side effects have been overblown. It's rather stupid, really.

I have heard so much anecdotal garbage about side effects. It’s no wonder people get nervous about the prospect. But the reality is different.

Do some people have bad side effects? Yes.

Is it a large number of people? No. Not at all, by any stretch of the imagination.

Accounts of side effects in the media have an outsize effect on perception. But that’s nothing new. The medium is the message indeed.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

43. Every-night local news leads with someone who had some mild side effect.

Sometimes it's a breaking story.

[dalton99a]

59. And in print - a random example:

Further down:

https://www.sharonherald.com/news/local_news/woman-experiences-vaccine-side-effect/article_e9d07df2-880e-5dfd-ab3d-067d4e293e2a.html

FWIW Only 0.3% of patients reported swollen lymph nodes in Pfizer's study

[ForgoTheConsequence]

115. God that's irresponsible.

People are going to read that headline and see "vaccine" "side effect" "swollen lymph nodes" and "breast cancer". They won't actually read the article but they'll go on Facebook and like a childhood game of telephone, the misinformation will snowball.

[brush]

111. Can so many Americans get any stupider? I blame it on 4 years of trump.

Just get the FREE shot already and not have to worry. It's almost a bigger no-brainer than not voting for the orange turd himself.

[Traildogbob]

51. We deserve

An India style wave. A lot of stupid can be weeded. Genocide the stupid people. I know, innocent casualties, well that’s already happening.
We have got to be one of the most stupid, selfish populations on earth. I know for certain the earth would thrive without people. I believe the world may thrive without MurKKKans.

[SuperCoder]

54. Enjoy the ventilators.

Scumbags.

[SunSeeker]

55. I got no side effects from either of my 2 Pfizer shots.

Neither did my husband, nor my son.

Zip. Nada. Zero.

[muriel_volestrangler]

56. However, having the 2nd shot more than 4 weeks after is going fine in Canada and UK

The original NYT article notes:

Walgreens has also come under fire for, until recently, scheduling second doses of the Pfizer vaccine four weeks after the first shot, rather than the three-week gap recommended by the C.D.C. Pharmacists have been besieged by customers complaining, including about their inability to book vaccine appointments online.
...
The C.D.C. says there is limited data on the vaccine’s effectiveness when shots are separated by more than six weeks, although some countries, including Britain and Canada, are giving shots with a gap of up to three or four months.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/25/business/covid-vaccines-second-doses.html

But 6 weeks looks fine in Canada:

Based on unpublished data available to the National Advisory Committee on Immunization through Health Canada for both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, there was no difference in vaccine efficacy between the people who got their second dose at day 19 and the people who got it at day 42.

https://bcmj.org/articles/what-evidence-extending-sars-cov-2-covid-19-vaccine-dosing-schedule

And with the UK 12 week gap for the Pfizer vaccine:

[div class="excerpt"Among people who had a second dose of the Pfizer vaccine, infections were 70% (62% to 77%; P<0.001) lower and symptomatic infections 90% (82% to 94%; P<0.001) lower, similar to the effects in people who had previously been infected naturally (70% and 87% reductions, respectively).

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1068

[CrispyQ]

57. This is why I'll be wearing a mask well into the future, maybe forever, out in public. -nt

[BobTheSubgenius]

58. I hope there are other reasons - maybe some "good" ones.

I'd hate to think there are that many whiny babies and idiots who somehow think that reading a web page has made them an epidemiologist.

[Mr. Evil]

61. I've had both shots. The Pfizer variety.

Last Monday, the 19th was my 2nd. Tuesday I felt a bit sluggish and rundown. Wednesday I felt like I weighed 1000 lbs. Thursday I started to feel like my old self again. Generally shitty with an achy lower back and creaky knees.

On the other hand, I have noticed these tiny antennae looking things poking out of my arms every few minutes now. So, I now remember to always say nice things about Mr. Gates!

[peppertree]

62. Well, that leaves more for the third world

And they need it.

It's a desperate situation - and a great opportunity for U.S. foreign policy.

Russia and China have had that market mostly to themselves up to now - thanks to Trump's refusal to allow any vaccine, or even vial, exports (except to Isreal and the UAE, which they got through Jared's good office$).

[SarcasticSatyr]

65. I got my first shot about 24 hours ago .. Moderna.

Right now, my arm is pretty sore, but that's about it .. so far.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

68. I REALLY ENJOYED my side effects - first shot made me sleepy and I slept REALLY WELL for

about 10 hours solid - woke up feeling pretty good next day. I NEVER get that kind of good solid sleep! So I was really looking forward to sleeping like a baby again after the 2nd shot, and was really disappointed when it didnt happen. No side effects whatsoever.

[IronLionZion]

71. Millions are dumber than dirt

with conservative media and social media sharing complete BS to encourage people's fears.

[Botany]

72. Fox News and the GOP are feeding into these dumb fucks misinformation

n/t

[Hekate]

74. Bring on the one-dose, asap

[ffr]

76. Fear

I know about a billion Indians who would jump at the chance to have what those 5 million are taking for granted.

Fear the virus, get the shot and get on with your life.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

77. Oh FFS

Guess they think Donny's bleach and UV enemas are a viable alternative.

[HUAJIAO]

78. Side effects sure beat a ventilator.

America MUST be the dumbest country on average on the planet....

If I were younger and had the money I would be out of here in 2 minutes.....

[EleanorR]

79. A large part of the problem seems to be scheduling and supply

From the NYTimes-

Those attitudes were expected, but another hurdle has been surprisingly prevalent. A number of vaccine providers have canceled second-dose appointments because they ran out of supply or didn’t have the right brand in stock.

[Warpy]

80. Bureaucracy likely getting in the way

Go one place to make an appointment, wait to be assigned a time and date and go to another place for the jab. Repeat.

I'm waiting until I can just call Wally's directly. I've had the disease, so I'm not in a mad rush.

When the vaccine was in short supply, public health bureaucracy needed to target it appropriately.

That is no longer the case.

[bluestarone]

85. Yea and when they get COVID, they will blame it on the

Vaccine! STUPID ASSHOLES!!!

[Tommymac]

86. Putin is loving it. His Social Media Disinformation Campaign is working.

Sometimes I think that Social Media is the devil.

Then I realize I'm agnostic and that in reality the devil is evil and/or stupid people's action's and lies.

Sigh. It is really hard to remain optimistic some days...but I keep on trying.

[FakeNoose]

89. If only we could go back to 1918 and ask the victims of the flu epidemic

I'd bet every one of them would get vaccinated, if such a thing were available.

[AverageOldGuy]

90. I stole this idea . . .

Somewhere Sunday morning or Saturday night, I read this idea . . . which I have now stolen.

We have two important issues:
1. Poor nations (and some not-so-poor) do not have enough vaccine nor do many of them have the infrastructure to support mass vaccinations; and,
2. Here in the USofA we have a surplus of vaccine as well as a significant portion of our population (mainly dumbass Republicans) who refuse to be vaccinated.

So the solution is simple: SHIP OUR EXCESS VACCINE TO POOR COUNTRIES, especially to those populated by people with black or brown skin. Immediately the dumbass "I don't need no stinking vaccine" Republicans will roll up their sleeves to be vaccinated so "those people" don't get vaccinated, meanwhile, pharma companies continue to crank out enough vaccine for the whole world.

[olddad65]

94. My gf couldn't take her 2cd vaccination because of the adverse reaction she had to the first one.

[Pas-de-Calais]

102. I get my 2nd tomorrow at 12:30

And

I’ll still wear masks.

Let’s not forget
These will eventually become yearly
Just like flu shots
count on that

[orangecrush]

107. Bad move.

[artemisia1]

112. While a number are probably out of fear, many out of laziness, I am more sympathetic than

many who have posted. Some people simply cannot risk being bedridden for even 1-3 days should they lose the side-effect lottery and become a severe case. Even under the best of circumstances, millions live from paycheck to paycheck, but under this situation, the number is likely far larger. Of course a full-blown COVID case will put them out for more than 1-3 days, but someone barely treading water has a hard time thinking beyond the coming week.

[Akoto]

113. My parents and I had our first shot at Walgreens today. Nurse said this was the big issue. nt

[OhioChick]

114. What a bunch of dumbasses....

Flulike symptoms are better than 6 feet under.

The sad thing is, these idiots are going to make it worse for us with the new variants that will emerge due to their stupidity.

[Rhiannon12866]

119. I felt pretty crappy after Moderna shot #2, but I was relieved

Not just to have gotten it, but I figured this indicated it worked!

[inwiththenew]

123. We are going to be dealing with covid for years to come

Between the one and done folks and the people who outright refuse to get it we will only reach herd immunity the old fashion way. Let's hope it doesn't mutate into something the vaccine don't protect against in the meantime.