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Omaha Steve

(99,597 posts)
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 09:05 PM Apr 2021

Hammond mayor braces for possible protests over anti-Biden flag flap

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Dan Carden

HAMMOND — A flap over a profanity-adorned flag in Hammond is prompting the mayor to muster possible police security and prepare for threatened protests by conservative groups outside of his home and City Hall, he said Wednesday.

An Evansville-based group of Donald Trump supporters say they’re planning to drive more than five hours to Hammond Saturday to protest outside City Hall and McDermott's home.

The Young Conservatives of Southern Indiana claim to be organizing a “Trump Caravan/Rally” in response to McDermott’s efforts to get a Hammond homeowner living adjacent to Riverside Park to remove a flag flying in his front yard featuring the words "F--- Biden" in large type, and in smaller type: "And f--- you for voting for him!"

A photo of the mayor's home and his address have been posted on the group's social media page.





Read more: https://omaha.com/news/nation/hammond-mayor-braces-for-possible-protests-over-anti-biden-flag-flap/article_d0f4d475-9097-5574-8541-a7462f401574.html



Conservative radio is spreading this across the country. Expect a crowd.
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Hammond mayor braces for possible protests over anti-Biden flag flap (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2021 OP
Looks like he is flying it higher than the American flag two poles down. keithbvadu2 Apr 2021 #1
Have I ever got a flag for him...! regnaD kciN Apr 2021 #2
Now that's a flag I would proudly hang! Initech Apr 2021 #14
Great! ShazzieB Apr 2021 #19
Love it! n/t iluvtennis Apr 2021 #20
Another neo-nazi TrumpChump off his rocker. What a way to disgrace the American flag too. hadEnuf Apr 2021 #3
Let it go tirebiter Apr 2021 #4
I agree this shouldn't be an issue. He's free to fly what he wants on his property rpannier Apr 2021 #13
Well, he's across from a park, his display includes an "obscene word," Hortensis Apr 2021 #41
As if the little leaguer never encountered .... reACTIONary Apr 2021 #48
Exactly! I don't see why the mayor is involved.... reACTIONary Apr 2021 #47
Hammond may not be the best place for these yokels to showq up rpannier Apr 2021 #5
HHS 1980 ... aggiesal Apr 2021 #10
I taught at BNI for a few years rpannier Apr 2021 #12
My parish was St. Margaret Mary ... aggiesal Apr 2021 #15
That trump flag is the ugliest flag I've ever seen. Chipper Chat Apr 2021 #6
Aren't there public decency laws about this sort of thing? Coventina Apr 2021 #7
Seems as though most places would have an anti-obscenity law? oldsoftie Apr 2021 #8
They wouldn't meet constitional muster in this case Jose Garcia Apr 2021 #33
I'd arrest him for terroism pfitz59 Apr 2021 #9
So That Is Where His stimulus Check Went n/t DallasNE Apr 2021 #11
First Amendment. Let him fly his flag. brooklynite Apr 2021 #16
+10 nt reACTIONary Apr 2021 #49
Wait for wind to change direction & those flags fly over property line. Cut 'em w scissors. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2021 #17
Best thing that can happen Warpy Apr 2021 #18
"Come and take it".......... Let me tell you something pendejo. You pull any Carlitos Brigante Apr 2021 #21
Sounds like a crime in the making, what exactly is their intention? nt ShazamIam Apr 2021 #22
Meh. Shoulda left him alone. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #23
What if someone drives by with their grade school child? JohnnyRingo Apr 2021 #24
Think of the children! Probatim Apr 2021 #30
Yeah, aren't they they ones that are all about censoring curse words BoringUsername Apr 2021 #35
...and I wouldn't brag about having an AR15 at the house. JohnnyRingo Apr 2021 #25
Evidently not a lot that goes on inside his house, or inside his head! How childish and stupid. Judi Lynn Apr 2021 #26
Thank you ShepKat Apr 2021 #27
Maybe its time to see if he was in Washington on Jan 6.... turbinetree Apr 2021 #28
These people are so pathetic. BlueStater Apr 2021 #29
What a sad, sick, stupid man. mountain grammy Apr 2021 #31
It is so appropriate that this "patriot" has defaced the American flag with Trump's name. Martin68 Apr 2021 #32
It is funny how some liberals claim to support the First Amendment ripcord Apr 2021 #34
I don't care if this guy has these flags displayed on his property BoringUsername Apr 2021 #37
He sounds nice. Politicub Apr 2021 #36
I do think his neighbors could file a complaint on this BoringUsername Apr 2021 #38
Yes, it would be an encroachment if the flag flew over a neighbor's property Mysterian Apr 2021 #42
I don't think that guy is Biden's type, really. MineralMan Apr 2021 #39
I hate QRUMP in the worst way BUT bluestarone Apr 2021 #40
It's constitutionally protected speech. Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #43
Looks like a job for spray paint in the middle of the night....... Bayard Apr 2021 #44
This guy is obviously an ass lakercub Apr 2021 #45
Ugh, Indiana. The northern Southern state. LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #46

keithbvadu2

(36,778 posts)
1. Looks like he is flying it higher than the American flag two poles down.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 09:15 PM
Apr 2021

Looks like he is flying it higher than the American flag two poles down.

hadEnuf

(2,188 posts)
3. Another neo-nazi TrumpChump off his rocker. What a way to disgrace the American flag too.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 09:26 PM
Apr 2021

And of course, Conservatives are rushing to the aid of this fascist asshole.



They just keep proving what they are every day.

tirebiter

(2,536 posts)
4. Let it go
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 09:26 PM
Apr 2021

It’s a 1st amendment thing for starters. That’s why you can burn any flag you want to if you own it.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
13. I agree this shouldn't be an issue. He's free to fly what he wants on his property
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:28 PM
Apr 2021

as long as it doesn't affect his neighbors (a flag that was so large it covered his neighbors whole house and property... ala the Crocker Wall in the 19th century), or pose a hazard.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. Well, he's across from a park, his display includes an "obscene word,"
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:36 AM
Apr 2021

and parents there for a Little League game reportedly complained.

We might think his entire attitude is obscene but stand up for his right to do what he wants on his property (even as his neighbor I would have to agree), but "Hammond Mayor Thomas McDermott says it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with one obscene word."



reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
47. Exactly! I don't see why the mayor is involved....
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:51 PM
Apr 2021

.... They should mind their own business. If the neighbors want to discuss it with the homeowner, that's their perogitive. If the homeomer doesn't listen, that's his perogative. But the government should not be involved.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
5. Hammond may not be the best place for these yokels to showq up
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 09:28 PM
Apr 2021

Lake County is the most Democratic County in Indiana.
I lived in Hammond for a few years in the early-mid 90s.
Lake County has not voted for a Republican for anything since before Roosevelt as I remember
Even the police are heavily Democratic

As to southern Indiana... ask almost anyone in the north, southern Indiana is just an extension of Alabama and Mississippi. There is a strong Klan presence down that way (at least there was into the early 2000s)

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
15. My parish was St. Margaret Mary ...
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:42 PM
Apr 2021

Cousins went to BNI
I had a lot of friends that went to school there

Coventina

(27,104 posts)
7. Aren't there public decency laws about this sort of thing?
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 09:36 PM
Apr 2021

But, if there aren't, I'd just nab him on something else.

Blight, have PD follow him everywhere he goes, whatever.

Send him sympathy cards every day....

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
8. Seems as though most places would have an anti-obscenity law?
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 09:55 PM
Apr 2021

He could fly a "Screw Biden" flag & still get his point across without being profane.
I just dont see this as being a free speech thing when its profanity visible to anyone.

Jose Garcia

(2,594 posts)
33. They wouldn't meet constitional muster in this case
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 10:42 AM
Apr 2021

The Miller test for obscenity includes the following criteria: (1) whether ‘the average person, applying contemporary community standards’ would find that the work, ‘taken as a whole,’ appeals to ‘prurient interest’ (2) whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law, and (3) whether the work, ‘taken as a whole,’ lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/obscenity

Warpy

(111,249 posts)
18. Best thing that can happen
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 11:11 PM
Apr 2021

is having this asshole's house surrounded by loud and violent conservative rabble with no opposition. They will turn on each other fairly quickly, fools who come looking for a fight will generally find one. A few nights of it and he'll be begging his "support" to go home.

Unfortunately, there are a few jerks on our side who are also looking for a fight so it's not going to happen. Also, I don't want the cops put in harm's way, they're not all fascists.

Personally, I find it a tempest in a teapot, most of the kiddies who use that park hear the word on an daily, if not hourly, basis. I say leave it up so everybody knows where the town asshole lives and will avoid him and his family.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
24. What if someone drives by with their grade school child?
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:08 AM
Apr 2021

What did you say!!?
"Fuck Biden". "That's what it said back there. What does that mean?"

I know the kid would be in trouble if he said it in class, all because some redneck Trumpie thinks his "free speech" is unconditional.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
25. ...and I wouldn't brag about having an AR15 at the house.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:15 AM
Apr 2021

They're easy to sell on the black market, and everybody knows he isn't taking it with him when he leaves.
Insurance only covers a few hundred dollars.

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
26. Evidently not a lot that goes on inside his house, or inside his head! How childish and stupid.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 05:28 AM
Apr 2021

Here's a video clip of the genius, Roy Steffan! He is exactly as bright as you would imagine! Clearly, he has far too much time on his hands. I suspect he's lonely.

He could take some of the money he spends of obscene anti-Biden flags and think about doing something for his teeth, er, a, tooth.

Link:
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/hammond-man-flies-explicit-political-flags-in-yard-across-from-park

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
29. These people are so pathetic.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 09:16 AM
Apr 2021

I can’t even imagine nor do I want to imagine the mental state of the loser who lives in that house.

Martin68

(22,791 posts)
32. It is so appropriate that this "patriot" has defaced the American flag with Trump's name.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 10:41 AM
Apr 2021

That's a flag that demands to be burned.

ripcord

(5,350 posts)
34. It is funny how some liberals claim to support the First Amendment
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 10:54 AM
Apr 2021

Right up to the point when they themselves are offended.

BoringUsername

(142 posts)
37. I don't care if this guy has these flags displayed on his property
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:07 AM
Apr 2021

and I think they should have left it alone instead of giving this guy the attention he craves. I do think it is funny that conservatives generally are for censoring obscene language, except they don't care if the obscene language is in support of Trump. They show they basically stand for nothing other than undying support of a sociopathic moron.

BoringUsername

(142 posts)
38. I do think his neighbors could file a complaint on this
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:12 AM
Apr 2021

because he put the flags on a fence that is probably a property boundary and that people could think the neighbors are the Trumpers instead of him, especially when the wind is going in the other direction. Seems like they could ask him to put the flags in location where they wouldn't be flying over their property.

bluestarone

(16,914 posts)
40. I hate QRUMP in the worst way BUT
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:25 AM
Apr 2021

It's his property. NOBODY but those that live in this town would have known anything about this UNTIL now. Sometimes it like just DON'T MENTION it. It's his basic right to be STUPID! Leave it alone, i say!

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
43. It's constitutionally protected speech.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:31 PM
Apr 2021

And for all those going the Helen Lovejoy route, we just had four years of protests with people yelling "Fuck Trump!" and carrying signs saying the same or other colorful messages. So the moralizing about the children seems a little disingenuous.

Bayard

(22,062 posts)
44. Looks like a job for spray paint in the middle of the night.......
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:38 PM
Apr 2021

I had a neighbor like this in Calif. It doesn't take much for them to turn violent.

How much screaming would we hear about flying flags that said, "Fuck Trump", and "We Will Take Your AK-47 and Deposit It Your Ass!"
And that would be our First Amendment right, until its not, sayeth these people.

lakercub

(659 posts)
45. This guy is obviously an ass
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:09 PM
Apr 2021

but I would have left this entirely alone. His property, his choice. If he wants everyone around to know he's ridiculous, that's his right. It's a teaching opportunity for parents to show kids how not to behave.

If I'm the neighbors, however, I'd have no mercy if he does break the law or encroach on their property. He's already showing he can't be reasoned with. Sue him if it's civil and get the authorities if it's criminal. No discussion.

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