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BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
Sun May 2, 2021, 09:47 AM May 2021

Kansas lawmaker arrested after allegedly kneeing student in groin, asking about kids' sex life on vi

Source: Washington Post

Kansas lawmaker arrested after allegedly kneeing student in groin, asking about kids’ sex life on video

By Hannah Knowles
May 2, 2021 at 8:00 a.m. EDT

One video allegedly shows Kansas state Rep. Mark Samsel asking students about their sex lives.

Another reportedly shows the Republican lawmaker pushing someone against a wall while working as a substitute teacher and warning, “I could put the wrath of God on you right now.”

And yet another, reviewed by the Kansas City Star, allegedly captures the moments right after the legislator kneed a student in the crotch Wednesday. Samsel stands over the boy, the Star reported, and asks, “Did it hurt?” — then asks him why he’s about to cry and queries a classmate, “Do you want to check his nuts for him, please?”

“Class, you have permission to kick him in the balls,” Samsel says at one point on video, according to the newspaper.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/02/mark-samsel-arrest-videos/



What the fuck?

Yeah, I got nothing. Sorry. 😕
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Kansas lawmaker arrested after allegedly kneeing student in groin, asking about kids' sex life on vi (Original Post) BlueStater May 2021 OP
This is the sort of behavior a former President said was permissible and welcomed msfiddlestix May 2021 #1
WTF isn't strong enough!!!! secondwind May 2021 #2
Sue? If I were the boys father, mac2766 May 2021 #22
I would have the same feelings as you do, but you don't want to make the jackass a victim Escurumbele May 2021 #25
Hit my kid like that and he would just disappear. ZonkerHarris May 2021 #32
Right there with you. Not all we liberals are pacifists. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #37
Sue first, make vanish later. Grokenstein May 2021 #39
Law enforcement? Mr. Evil May 2021 #35
Toxic masculinity runs high in this one,... keep away from the kids. magicarpet May 2021 #3
That is not masculinity, that is psychopath Escurumbele May 2021 #27
Another republican psychopath I_UndergroundPanther May 2021 #4
What a sick sick Sicko!!! people May 2021 #13
it's this guy and all his idiot Repug cronies rhiannon55 May 2021 #5
I need to remember to not click on Wapo links. panader0 May 2021 #6
Here's an article from the KC Star covering the same points. crickets May 2021 #20
Thank you PatSeg May 2021 #24
You're welcome. My subs are the other way around. crickets May 2021 #29
And I understand the need for the paywall PatSeg May 2021 #31
christian warrior? llashram May 2021 #7
I'll bet this puts the lead in his stubby little pencil Retired Engineer Bob May 2021 #8
Did a bunch of goggling for another thread about this, and he was almost immediately... TreasonousBastard May 2021 #9
GOP- Thoughts and prayers. plimsoll May 2021 #14
That's cause the district is about to get sued. Huge settlement coming. ZonkerHarris May 2021 #33
From under what rock 2Gingersnaps May 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author 2Gingersnaps May 2021 #11
So...let's get this guy as FAR from a classroom as possible. PatrickforB May 2021 #12
I AM THANKFUL FOR DU AND EVERYONE WHO POSTS HERE! Ziggysmom May 2021 #15
Did people vote him into office? world wide wally May 2021 #16
May he receive everything he deserves, in full measure. niyad May 2021 #17
I have to wonder about a person like this. BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #18
A real man of the people..... Bayard May 2021 #19
first the asshole should be arrested for child abuse. he should be registered as a sex offender. bullimiami May 2021 #21
It is amazing how glib this perverted bully is in the video. RVN VET71 May 2021 #23
He probably bullied kids this same way when he was in High School. This is his happy place ZonkerHarris May 2021 #34
Yep. This behavior didn't start after he became a failed adult RVN VET71 May 2021 #40
there will be a huge lawsuit and settlement. ZonkerHarris May 2021 #47
I pray you are correct! RVN VET71 May 2021 #50
He is a serious child molester and should be prosecuted. Lonestarblue May 2021 #26
Question. If it is on video where anyone can see, how is that "allegedly"? Escurumbele May 2021 #28
In the past few years, PatSeg May 2021 #30
A couple reasons come to mind. intheflow May 2021 #44
because legally, in this country, everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. ZonkerHarris May 2021 #48
whom the heck does he think he is ?? i cant finish the rest of my scentence wo getting banned . AllaN01Bear May 2021 #36
Republicans are a party of perverts and abusers nt IronLionZion May 2021 #38
This jackass needs to be fired from the school, his teaching credentials nullified, and never be iluvtennis May 2021 #41
Kansas lawmaker arrested for battery of student amid bizarre day as substitute Judi Lynn May 2021 #42
Would he knee Matt Gaetz in the nutz? Blue Owl May 2021 #43
I've said I'm afraid for this country many times. redqueen May 2021 #45
Interesting that no students have come forward to corroborate that this was staged. intheflow May 2021 #46
Just another pressbox69 May 2021 #49

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. WTF isn't strong enough!!!!
Sun May 2, 2021, 09:53 AM
May 2021

I hope the parents will sue his ass off, then let law enforcement take it from there.

We truly are living in strange times....

 

mac2766

(658 posts)
22. Sue? If I were the boys father,
Sun May 2, 2021, 12:33 PM
May 2021

I'd find him out and about and kick his ass. A grown man putting their hands on a child needs to be punished. Corporaly.

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
25. I would have the same feelings as you do, but you don't want to make the jackass a victim
Sun May 2, 2021, 01:36 PM
May 2021

let justice take him away, then he can grab the balls of all the prisoners while in jail, and asked them about their sex life too.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
32. Hit my kid like that and he would just disappear.
Sun May 2, 2021, 02:36 PM
May 2021

Look all you want for him. Never find him.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
35. Law enforcement?
Sun May 2, 2021, 02:48 PM
May 2021

Hell, he'll be fired from substitute teaching and probably become a cop.

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
27. That is not masculinity, that is psychopath
Sun May 2, 2021, 01:39 PM
May 2021

Sex life, wrath of god, check his balls, everyone can kick him in the balls...If that is not psycho, not sure what is.


Masculinity:
qualities or attributes regarded as characteristic of men.
"handsome, muscled, and driven, he's a prime example of masculinity"

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
4. Another republican psychopath
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:14 AM
May 2021

All psychopaths want to get away with abusing people. Republicans are psychopaths.

Just look what they say,do and how they gaslight and what they vote for,or don't support.

rhiannon55

(2,786 posts)
5. it's this guy and all his idiot Repug cronies
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:35 AM
May 2021

who block every good thing that Governor Laura Kelly tries to do. It is monsters like this guy who won't allow her to expand Medicaid to make it available to to all low-income Kansans, regardless of their age. It's monsters like him who will never allow cannabis legalization in this backward state, even for medicinal purposes. And so many other things.

I despise Republicans.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
20. Here's an article from the KC Star covering the same points.
Sun May 2, 2021, 12:08 PM
May 2021

The man is a dangerous nut. Red flags everywhere. Worth reading for more background, but here are the lowlights:

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article251069219.html

In one video shared with The Star, Samsel tells students about “a sophomore who’s tried killing himself three times,” adding that it was because “he has two parents and they’re both females.” [snip]

In another video, Samsel is recorded telling students, “make babies. Who likes making babies? That feels good, doesn’t it? Procreate ... You haven’t masturbated? Don’t answer that question....God already knows.” [snip]

In another video, he tells students, “Class, you have permission to kick him in the balls.”

Parents told The Star that Samsel “put hands on the student” and allegedly kneed him in the crotch. In a video apparently taken immediately after the incident, the student is shown on the ground. Samsel is standing over him and says, “did it hurt?”


Speaking about his vote against a bill that would have ended an exemption for spouses from the state’s sexual battery law:

“To me, it gets to what does the sanctity of marriage mean?” Samsel was quoted as saying, according to the Kansas Reflector. “And I’m single, so I’m not the best person to speak to this. But when you do get married, what does that mean? And what implied consent are you giving?”


He claims he was worried about "criminalizing sexual relations between spouses." Oookay. He may have been fired from the school, but so far, the Kansas House GOP is still "gathering information." Wow.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
24. Thank you
Sun May 2, 2021, 01:35 PM
May 2021

I have the New York Times, but not the Washington Post. I appreciate the link.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
29. You're welcome. My subs are the other way around.
Sun May 2, 2021, 01:47 PM
May 2021

I subscribe to WaPo but not the NYT. I completely understand the paywall frustration.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
31. And I understand the need for the paywall
Sun May 2, 2021, 01:55 PM
May 2021

but subscriptions to two major newspapers would be overkill for me.

8. I'll bet this puts the lead in his stubby little pencil
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:41 AM
May 2021

He should be evaluated, punished, and end up on a registry. Perhaps give the parents an opportunity to spend some unhindered “quality time” with him.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
9. Did a bunch of goggling for another thread about this, and he was almost immediately...
Sun May 2, 2021, 10:52 AM
May 2021

fired from the school. The school district is in serious apology mode over this.

Now, if the politicians could just get their asses in gear.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
10. From under what rock
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:04 AM
May 2021

did this raging idiot crawl? Sounds like that jockstrap "humor" associated with Gym Jordan.

Response to BlueStater (Original post)

PatrickforB

(15,426 posts)
12. So...let's get this guy as FAR from a classroom as possible.
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:06 AM
May 2021

This is what the Republicans have become.

Ziggysmom

(4,123 posts)
15. I AM THANKFUL FOR DU AND EVERYONE WHO POSTS HERE!
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:24 AM
May 2021

I work a lot of hours and I am also the caretaker for my disabled husband. I don’t have a lot of time to watch news on TV or read a lot of sites. DU gets me straight to the the content that matters most to me.

I never saw this story, and many others posted on DU, on other websites. I would miss a lot without this site and all the great folks here.

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
16. Did people vote him into office?
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:30 AM
May 2021

We have a serious problem with some of the people that people vote for.
ex: Trump

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
18. I have to wonder about a person like this.
Sun May 2, 2021, 11:38 AM
May 2021

How could anyone POSSIBLY act this way, to start with, but let's jump ahead. How could that person POSSIBLY run for office with skeletons like that in the closet? An arrogance that says "They'll never catch a smart/connected/powerful person like me?"

Does he honestly believe he did nothing wrong? Ever?

FML

bullimiami

(14,075 posts)
21. first the asshole should be arrested for child abuse. he should be registered as a sex offender.
Sun May 2, 2021, 12:19 PM
May 2021

RVN VET71

(3,192 posts)
23. It is amazing how glib this perverted bully is in the video.
Sun May 2, 2021, 12:51 PM
May 2021

He’s just a good guy, isn’t he, even a great guy. The school sucks. He fears for our future.

Hold on, Jake, you kneed a kid in the groin and invited the class to kick him in the testicles. Yeah, sure, he says, but that’s just because the media is only showing one side of this. There was no altercation. No altercation? You mean the kid just lay on the ground holding his groin and moaning for funnies? You mean you just called the rest of the class to assault him -- in jest? That’s the only side anyone needs to see. If things got so out of control in the classroom, that’s on you, bubba, not on the kids. And the correct responses would have been a) to call the principal’s office immediately and b) resign by walking away. You did neither.

His ability to lie so easily about what is evident on video suggests a serious, deep psychological problem. I hope that jail helps straighten him out.

(No, I’m kidding. Jail won’t straighten out a slime ball like him. I just hope it makes him suffer, a lot.)

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
34. He probably bullied kids this same way when he was in High School. This is his happy place
Sun May 2, 2021, 02:38 PM
May 2021

old habits

RVN VET71

(3,192 posts)
40. Yep. This behavior didn't start after he became a failed adult
Sun May 2, 2021, 05:09 PM
May 2021

But I do believe there’ll be a lawsuit coming, and soon. So he’ll most likely lose his job and his property -- so at least there’s that.

I just hope some enterprising journalists does a follow up on this punk, maybe in 5 years, just to see how he’s doing, now that he’s out of jail and sued into the poorhouse. (I know it won’t happen that way, but it gives a certain amount of actual satisfaction just thinking about it.)

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
26. He is a serious child molester and should be prosecuted.
Sun May 2, 2021, 01:37 PM
May 2021

No student should be subjected to such abuse. And no one who abuses should be allowed to remain in public office. Shame on the Kansas legislature if they do not expel him.

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
28. Question. If it is on video where anyone can see, how is that "allegedly"?
Sun May 2, 2021, 01:41 PM
May 2021

Why do publications have to change facts into doubts?

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
30. In the past few years,
Sun May 2, 2021, 01:54 PM
May 2021

I've noticed the word "allegedly" used excessively, sometimes right after seeing a video of the "alleged" suspect committing the crime.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
44. A couple reasons come to mind.
Mon May 3, 2021, 01:04 PM
May 2021

First and foremost, people are innocent until proven guilty (allegedly ), so including "allegedly" protects news media from libel and slander suits.

Second, video can be staged or framed in a way that grossly misleads. This is propaganda 101: control the narrative.



I'm not saying that's what's going on in this instance, only giving plausible reasons why journalism includes that kind of disclaimer.



 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
48. because legally, in this country, everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:28 PM
May 2021

AllaN01Bear

(29,498 posts)
36. whom the heck does he think he is ?? i cant finish the rest of my scentence wo getting banned .
Sun May 2, 2021, 03:00 PM
May 2021

iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
41. This jackass needs to be fired from the school, his teaching credentials nullified, and never be
Sun May 2, 2021, 05:35 PM
May 2021

allowed near school children again.

WTF.

Judi Lynn

(164,125 posts)
42. Kansas lawmaker arrested for battery of student amid bizarre day as substitute
Sun May 2, 2021, 09:36 PM
May 2021

By Eileen AJ Connelly
May 1, 2021 | 6:01pm | Updated

- video at link -

A Kansas state representative was arrested on a charge of misdemeanor battery after he reportedly went on a religious rant while working as a substitute teacher and ended up in a physical altercation with a student.

Rep. Mark Samsel, a Republican who represents parts of four rural counties southeast of the capital Topeka, was busted by the Franklin County Sheriff Thursday, a day after the bizarre incident at Wellsville United School District’s high school.

Students in Samsel’s classes were recording videos of the lawmaker throughout the day, talking about suicide, sex, masturbation, God and the Bible, The Kansas City Star reported.

In one video shared with the paper, Samsel tells students about “a sophomore who’s tried killing himself three times,” adding that it was because “he has two parents and they’re both females.”

In another video, Samsel is recorded telling students, “make babies. Who likes making babies? That feels good, doesn’t it? Procreate. … You haven’t masturbated? Don’t answer that question….God already knows.”

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More:
https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/kansas-lawmaker-arrested-for-battery-of-high-school-student/



redqueen

(115,186 posts)
45. I've said I'm afraid for this country many times.
Mon May 3, 2021, 01:30 PM
May 2021

I've felt that way even more often.

There just really are no words ...

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
46. Interesting that no students have come forward to corroborate that this was staged.
Mon May 3, 2021, 01:34 PM
May 2021

The KC Star article reports,

In a Snapchat post shared with The Star, Samsel wrote that “it was all planned.”

“Every little bit of it. That’s right. The kids and I planned ALL this to SEND A MESSAGE about art, mental health, teenage suicide, how we treat our educators and one another. To who? Parents. And grandparents. And all of Wellsville,” he posted.


It was supposedly about "art, mental health, and suicide"? WTF was he supposed to be teaching? I could see if they'd pulled him in to teach social studies (as a lawyer, that's the only thing he might be qualified to teach). But I am 100% positive he was not hired to teach art and/or health and wellness. And NONE of that excuses bringing God into the public school at all.

Where are the students who agreed with this? And also: if the kids did agree to do this, it may not have been of their own volition. How can kids give consent or object to what's being taught in school as it's being taught? To do so is to be labeled a troublemaker and sent to the office. Kids are literally in school to learn to be compliant and unquestioning (as opposed to learning and using critical thinking skills, per the DeVos education agenda).
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