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Tue May 4, 2021, 11:53 AM

White House plans to redistribute unordered vaccine supply, telling states: Use it or lose it

Source: Washington Post




The White House on Tuesday told states vaccine supply they leave unordered will become available to other states — the most significant shift in domestic vaccine distribution since President Biden took office, and part of an effort to account for flagging demand in parts of the country. Each state’s share of the total adult population will still determine weekly allocations. But instead of allowing unordered doses to carry over week-to-week, the White House will steer untapped vaccine into a federal bank available to states where demand continues to outstrip supply. Those states will be able to order up to 50 percent above their weekly allocation.

The use-it-or-lose-it strategy has the potential to transform how vaccine flows across the country. In recent weeks, numerous states have begun leaving significant quantities of doses on the shelves. Last week, officials in Arkansas declined their entire share, the state confirmed. The scramble to make use of all available shots is intensifying as the pace of daily vaccinations falls off significantly — and as health authorities pivot to inoculating hesitant and hard-to-reach populations. The seven-day average of daily shots administered dropped by 17 percent during the past week, according to data analyzed by The Washington Post, and by 33 percent since April 13.

Jeff Zients, coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, said the changes reflect how quickly the federal government has been able to make shots available to everyone eager for them. People willing to drive long distances have been covered, he said. More than 80 percent of people older than 65 have received at least one dose. In the next phase of the immunization campaign, defined by efforts to improve access and build confidence, “there is a need to add more flexibility to the current system,” Zients said in an interview. The White House was at pains to avoid the perception of penalizing states — or of picking winners and losers. Those not ordering their full allocation one week will not lose out permanently, instead ceding supply on a one-time basis.

The changes are sensitive because governors have grown protective of vaccine supply, eager to tout expanding availability for constituents after a period of intense scarcity in the winter. Federal officials had weighed other changes, including metrics that would account not just for unordered inventory but the pace of administering shots already distributed to states, according to people familiar with the discussions. The White House, however, has been intent on adhering closely to the population-based formula, notably rejecting an appeal from Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) to surge vaccine to her state as it faced a crushing caseload in March and April.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/05/04/vaccine-distribution-biden/

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Reply White House plans to redistribute unordered vaccine supply, telling states: Use it or lose it (Original post)
BumRushDaShow May 4 OP
Stallion May 4 #1
underpants May 4 #2
Tommymac May 4 #15
Stallion May 4 #18
Dawson Leery May 4 #3
BumRushDaShow May 4 #4
Dawson Leery May 4 #5
BumRushDaShow May 4 #6
JudyM May 4 #11
Salviati May 4 #9
muriel_volestrangler May 4 #13
Dream Girl May 4 #16
ShazzieB May 4 #22
paleotn May 4 #23
louis-t May 4 #24
IronLionZion May 4 #7
BumRushDaShow May 4 #10
IronLionZion May 4 #17
Raftergirl May 4 #8
ZonkerHarris May 4 #12
Buckeye_Democrat May 4 #20
ffr May 4 #14
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 12:10 PM

1. By the Time This Program is Completed-It Will Be Clear there are Two Americas

traditional Democratic vaccinated states and largely unvaccinated Republican states. The contrast in numbers is already alarming

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Response to Stallion (Reply #1)

Tue May 4, 2021, 12:23 PM

2. They already say it all the time - 73 million people voted for Trump

That’s a little less than a third of people over the age of 12. Let’s see what f shot numbers end up matching that number.

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Response to Stallion (Reply #1)

Tue May 4, 2021, 02:45 PM

15. Unfortunately States are PURPLE.

Pennsylvania is an example. Philly, Pittsburgh, Harrisonburg, and Erie will all get to 70% or better imho.

The middle 'Kentucky' part of the State will never reach those numbers...hence death in the middle and life in the Cities.

I'm sure it will be like that all over the country.

Death knows no politics.

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Response to Stallion (Reply #1)

Tue May 4, 2021, 03:27 PM

18. 22 Traditional Democratic States Leading (in at least Single Dose) and 17 Republican States Trailing

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 12:29 PM

3. Terrible idea.

Many who are on the fence are going to lean against getting a vaccine because of this of. Their reasoning? Since you are pulling the supply, obviously there no dire need to get the vaccine.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 12:33 PM

4. Why would you assume that?

I expect much of this is because supplies have been sent to states and they are supposed to regularly report how much has been used. And if they are not distributing what they have from week to week, then why keep giving them "excess" that will sit in freezers and not be used right away?

Additionally, the article mentions the plan was not to make this "permanent". A reduction in one location one week would basically be a "one time" thing and not necessarily be a permanent reduction for the future.

I suppose in the business world, the term is "right-sizing" the distribution from week to week, still taking into account the population of each state.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Tue May 4, 2021, 12:34 PM

5. There must be enough vaccines for the entire population.

Also, I am getting the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines ONLY!

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #5)

Tue May 4, 2021, 12:40 PM

6. At the rate they are manufacturing

apparently there IS enough for the entire population.

I expect what will happen in the next few weeks is if Pfizer gets their data in and reviewed by FDA & CDC in a week or so and gets an EUA approval for 12 - 15 year olds, the dynamics of vaccinations will shift again. That's because now the very group that represents a significant number of "spreaders" will be eligible, and localities will probably be heavily promoting getting the kids vaccinated so that "schools can fully open in fall" for those older kids (as they will probably "sell" it).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #4)

Tue May 4, 2021, 01:24 PM

11. Right. Also the psychological play on "scarcity" may impel some who are on the fence to go for it.

Clever, IMO.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 01:14 PM

9. They're still getting the same number of new doses each week, and if they run through that...

... then they can request more, but it makes no sense to ship vaccines out to states that aren't going to use them all.

It would be better to tamp this down equally everywhere, but in the meantime, it's better to put a vaccine in someone's arm than it is for it to sit on a shelf.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 01:34 PM

13. They don't want ever-increasing supplies of vaccine sitting in central storage doing nothing

when there are some states saying "yes, we have willing people waiting for this right now". This would get more people vaccinated earlier. And some states, typically Republican ones (voting or controlled) are lagging:





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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 02:46 PM

16. I really doubt that would be their thinking.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 05:06 PM

22. People who don't want to get the vaccine are going to find an excuse.

Those who don't want to get vaxxed will use any excuse they can dream up or pull out of the air. If some of them decide to use this as their excuse du jour, so what? If they do, that means they weren't getting vaxxed anyway.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 05:08 PM

23. My thought is, don't be a f'ing moron. Get off the GD fence.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 05:20 PM

24. I think you are wrong.

I think people who are on the fence will rush to get it if they find out their state is not going to get anymore for a while.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 12:41 PM

7. People who want it should get it

which can be harder for homeless or impoverished people who don't have internet access or live in hard to reach areas. So there should be ways for these folks to get it. My city has been vaccinating homeless in shelters but it can be harder for the transient folks on the move and undocumented immigrants.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #7)

Tue May 4, 2021, 01:23 PM

10. That's why a lot of places like here in Philly

they wanted to use the J&J 1-shot vaccine to get to those populations. They have had outreach workers at the shelters and even getting to some who are sleeping in the transit stations (who have been reticent to go to one of the shelters), etc. That way they would be "one and done" - at least for the time being to reduce the spread. They have also wanted that for those who are home-bound with caretakers (not in a hospital or nursing home or rehab facility).

The Philly Inquirer recently had an article about a young nurse practitioner who once he was done his shift in the hospital, would take the hospital's leftover doses and "hit the road", literally going from neighborhood to neighborhood all around the city to give those folks a shot before the doses expired (since the vials were already thawed).






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https://www.inquirer.com/news/inq2/philadelphia-covid-19-vaccine-leftover-doses-20210414.html

I expect there are probably hundreds of thousands or more of people like this - scattered around the country and embedded in cities, suburbs, and rural areas, who need someone to come to them to give them a shot.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #10)

Tue May 4, 2021, 02:51 PM

17. That's a good idea

there are community groups doing that for disabled and elderly here in DC.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 12:57 PM

8. There will still be enough vaccine

in slow vaxx states for anyone who wants one to get it. And maybe they will whine that the administration is being mean to Red States and it will spur some never vaxxers to get them. To “own the libs.”

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 01:30 PM

12. Hey Red States, we Blue States are going to take all your vax jabs. Thank you!

suckers

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Response to ZonkerHarris (Reply #12)

Tue May 4, 2021, 03:46 PM

20. I drink your milkshake!

Drainage, Alabama and Mississippi! Drained dry, I'm so sorry.


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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 02:17 PM

14. Wars are won through unity.

When 25% of the people who inhabit this country choose to stand with your war adversary and there's no legal way to compel them to do otherwise, it really shows what kind of people we're dealing with.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 03:42 PM

19. Advertise we're sending it to third world nations on hiway billboards. Slogan:

"If they use it, we lose it: take the jab fer 'murica!"

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 04:56 PM

21. Wow! A common sense policy!

I guess my expectations were skewed by the preceding 4 years.

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