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Tue May 4, 2021, 09:04 PM

US report: Taliban will likely curtail Afghan women's rights

Source: AP






By NOMAAN MERCHANT 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence agencies are warning that any gains in women’s rights in Afghanistan made in the last two decades will be at risk after U.S. troops withdraw later this year.

An unclassified report released Tuesday by the Director of National Intelligence says the Taliban remain “broadly consistent in its restrictive approach to women’s rights and would roll back much of the past two decades’ progress if the group regained national power.”

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During the Taliban’s rule in the 1990s, women were largely confined to their homes, and girls had no access to education. Despite protestations from the U.S. and Europe, the Taliban brutally enforced its extreme version of Islamic Sharia law with little consequence. It was only after the U.S.-led invasion toppled the group that had hosted Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network that democratic governance and respect for human rights in Afghanistan became a Western priority.

Two-thirds of Afghanistan’s population is 25 years old or younger, with no memory of Taliban rule.
While Afghanistan remains one of the world’s worst countries for women, particularly in rural areas where little has changed in generations, Afghan women now serve in Parliament, go to school and run businesses.

But there are persistent fears that, as the U.S. has negotiated with the Taliban on an exit from Afghanistan, women will be stripped of rights or once again be forced to wear the burqa, the all-encompassing veils that became a symbol of Taliban rule................................

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/taliban-womens-rights-government-and-politics-d3ced0ded161b380decfa1c8f012f0f5?traffic_source=Connatix



Women--and the young in Afgan have had a taste of democracy. They will fight back. But it will be horrible for both sides.
After 20 years, I am not saying we should stay--yet I feel so bad for the women -and their families.




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A U.S. flag is lowered as American and Afghan soldiers attend a handover ceremony from the U.S. Army to the Afghan National Army, at Camp Anthonic, in Helmand province, southern Afghanistan, Sunday, May 2, 2021. (Afghan Ministry of Defense Press Office via AP)

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riversedge May 4 OP
JohnSJ May 4 #1
maxsolomon May 4 #2
NoRethugFriends May 4 #3
Justice matters. May 4 #4
Rebl2 May 4 #6
TomDaisy May 4 #5
JustABozoOnThisBus May 5 #19
VarryOn May 4 #7
Efilroft Sul May 4 #8
rickyhall May 4 #9
Polybius May 4 #10
betsuni May 4 #11
McKim May 4 #12
OnlinePoker May 5 #13
JI7 May 5 #14
IronLionZion May 5 #21
JI7 May 5 #22
JI7 May 5 #15
ExTex May 5 #16
pfitz59 May 5 #17
Marrah_Goodman May 5 #18
mdbl May 5 #20
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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 09:08 PM

1. No doubt about it

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 09:20 PM

2. I could have written this report

3 decades ago.

I hope Pakistan comes to regret what they've wrought.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 09:34 PM

3. That's a big surprise, not

I partially sponsor three girls at a great orphanage in Kabul.
Great music program and positive stuff for girls.
Many go to university.
I shudder to think what will happen there.

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Response to NoRethugFriends (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 09:45 PM

4. We can't pretend to be the world's Police.

Because, frankly, we're not even there HERE (yet)...

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Response to NoRethugFriends (Reply #3)

Tue May 4, 2021, 10:28 PM

6. I fear

what will happen to the women once we leave. There has been much progress for them and if we pull out, I dread what will happen. Sorry but it’s a mistake. You can’t tell me otherwise.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 09:58 PM

5. we are right back where we were 25 years ago. Same exact place.

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Response to TomDaisy (Reply #5)

Wed May 5, 2021, 05:25 AM

19. And if we stay another 25 years, we will delay the same inevitability.

I'm sure the current Afghan leaders will scoot to Europe, where their bank accounts are doing well.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 10:32 PM

7. Anybody surprised by this...

Is a ....nevermind

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 10:51 PM

8. Provide political asylum to any Afghan woman or girl who seeks it and let the Taliban marry goats.

I'll still feel sorry for the goats, though.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 10:59 PM

9. Same thing happened to Iraq. Seems things would be better over there if we stayed the fuck OUT.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 11:01 PM

10. It's horrible, but it's not our problem

Saudi Arabia has a horrible record too, yet we don't go to war with them.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 11:19 PM

11. I saw a news report from Afghanistan recently (maybe BBC) where the Taliban said it

was totally going to be nice from now on, they promise.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue May 4, 2021, 11:35 PM

12. This is Always the Last Argument Against Leaving!

The forces behind this war are not really concerned about women. This is just a commonly used argument to justify our military bases in the Middle East. Afghanistan has billions of dollars worth of mineral wealth and that is what matters to the military industrial complex.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 12:25 AM

13. It didn't always suck to be a woman in Afghanistan

Women in Afghanistan were not always under house arrest and forbidden by law to leave their homes unchaperoned by a male relative. Once upon a time in pre-Taliban days Afghan women had access to professional careers, university-level education, shops selling non-traditional clothing, public transportation, and public spaces, all of which they happily navigated freely and without supervision.

(with photos)
https://dangerousminds.net/comments/it_didnt_always_suck_to_be_a_woman_in_afghanistan

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Response to OnlinePoker (Reply #13)

Wed May 5, 2021, 12:52 AM

14. Not in most of Afghanistan . This was mainly in the cities with people who had money

In most of the country and for most women they were still fully covered and without rights.


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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Wed May 5, 2021, 09:55 AM

21. There are similarities to the US

where people are more liberal in the cities and more RWers and fundies out in the country

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #21)

Wed May 5, 2021, 10:02 AM

22. No,it's not the same thing. In the US you can go into right wing or liberal areas

and still be open about your beliefs. yeah, there will be hostile people in certain areas but some MAGA hat wearing fool can go into cities and someone with shirts promoting liberal causes can go to right wing areas .

In Afghanistan a woman without full covering would not have been able to go into many parts of the country .

The pictures people keep using to show Afghanistan was more open are usually the same ones and most of those people were family of high officials and other well to do types .

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 12:55 AM

15. One of the reasons Biden decided to leave was because of Pakistan's influence in the country

It makes it impossible to do much to help the people there .

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 01:04 AM

17. To them, women are brood stock

to be raped repeatedly until pregnant. and they kept pregnant until they die or lose appeal. then on to the next 9 year-old girl..

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 04:56 AM

18. Life for women under the taliban is no life at all

Unless they marry a doctor or their father is a doctor, forget about any medical care. Education...nope. Sunlight on their skin? Again, no. They are treated worse then farm animals. Bought, sold, bred.... but at least a horse can feel the sun on it's skin.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 08:15 AM

20. A country of men who blame women for their lack of self-control

the whole culture needs to change - but won't.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 05:42 PM

23. Well.....duh!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed May 5, 2021, 06:09 PM

24. Perhaps we should provide Visas to all the women in Afghanistan.

Just leave the men to themselves and their goats.

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