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riversedge

(70,047 posts)
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:04 PM May 2021

US report: Taliban will likely curtail Afghan women's rights

Source: AP






By NOMAAN MERCHANT 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence agencies are warning that any gains in women’s rights in Afghanistan made in the last two decades will be at risk after U.S. troops withdraw later this year.

An unclassified report released Tuesday by the Director of National Intelligence says the Taliban remain “broadly consistent in its restrictive approach to women’s rights and would roll back much of the past two decades’ progress if the group regained national power.”

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During the Taliban’s rule in the 1990s, women were largely confined to their homes, and girls had no access to education. Despite protestations from the U.S. and Europe, the Taliban brutally enforced its extreme version of Islamic Sharia law with little consequence. It was only after the U.S.-led invasion toppled the group that had hosted Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network that democratic governance and respect for human rights in Afghanistan became a Western priority.

Two-thirds of Afghanistan’s population is 25 years old or younger, with no memory of Taliban rule.
While Afghanistan remains one of the world’s worst countries for women, particularly in rural areas where little has changed in generations, Afghan women now serve in Parliament, go to school and run businesses.

But there are persistent fears that, as the U.S. has negotiated with the Taliban on an exit from Afghanistan, women will be stripped of rights or once again be forced to wear the burqa, the all-encompassing veils that became a symbol of Taliban rule................................

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/taliban-womens-rights-government-and-politics-d3ced0ded161b380decfa1c8f012f0f5?traffic_source=Connatix



Women--and the young in Afgan have had a taste of democracy. They will fight back. But it will be horrible for both sides.
After 20 years, I am not saying we should stay--yet I feel so bad for the women -and their families.




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A U.S. flag is lowered as American and Afghan soldiers attend a handover ceremony from the U.S. Army to the Afghan National Army, at Camp Anthonic, in Helmand province, southern Afghanistan, Sunday, May 2, 2021. (Afghan Ministry of Defense Press Office via AP)
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US report: Taliban will likely curtail Afghan women's rights (Original Post) riversedge May 2021 OP
No doubt about it JohnSJ May 2021 #1
I could have written this report maxsolomon May 2021 #2
That's a big surprise, not NoRethugFriends May 2021 #3
We can't pretend to be the world's Police. Justice matters. May 2021 #4
I fear Rebl2 May 2021 #6
we are right back where we were 25 years ago. Same exact place. TomDaisy May 2021 #5
And if we stay another 25 years, we will delay the same inevitability. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2021 #19
Anybody surprised by this... VarryOn May 2021 #7
Provide political asylum to any Afghan woman or girl who seeks it and let the Taliban marry goats. Efilroft Sul May 2021 #8
Same thing happened to Iraq. Seems things would be better over there if we stayed the fuck OUT. rickyhall May 2021 #9
It's horrible, but it's not our problem Polybius May 2021 #10
I saw a news report from Afghanistan recently (maybe BBC) where the Taliban said it betsuni May 2021 #11
This is Always the Last Argument Against Leaving! McKim May 2021 #12
It didn't always suck to be a woman in Afghanistan OnlinePoker May 2021 #13
Not in most of Afghanistan . This was mainly in the cities with people who had money JI7 May 2021 #14
There are similarities to the US IronLionZion May 2021 #21
No,it's not the same thing. In the US you can go into right wing or liberal areas JI7 May 2021 #22
One of the reasons Biden decided to leave was because of Pakistan's influence in the country JI7 May 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex May 2021 #16
To them, women are brood stock pfitz59 May 2021 #17
Life for women under the taliban is no life at all Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #18
A country of men who blame women for their lack of self-control mdbl May 2021 #20
Well.....duh! Martin68 May 2021 #23
Perhaps we should provide Visas to all the women in Afghanistan. cinematicdiversions May 2021 #24

NoRethugFriends

(2,276 posts)
3. That's a big surprise, not
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:34 PM
May 2021

I partially sponsor three girls at a great orphanage in Kabul.
Great music program and positive stuff for girls.
Many go to university.
I shudder to think what will happen there.

Rebl2

(13,447 posts)
6. I fear
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:28 PM
May 2021

what will happen to the women once we leave. There has been much progress for them and if we pull out, I dread what will happen. Sorry but it’s a mistake. You can’t tell me otherwise.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,315 posts)
19. And if we stay another 25 years, we will delay the same inevitability.
Wed May 5, 2021, 05:25 AM
May 2021

I'm sure the current Afghan leaders will scoot to Europe, where their bank accounts are doing well.

Efilroft Sul

(3,578 posts)
8. Provide political asylum to any Afghan woman or girl who seeks it and let the Taliban marry goats.
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:51 PM
May 2021

I'll still feel sorry for the goats, though.

Polybius

(15,331 posts)
10. It's horrible, but it's not our problem
Tue May 4, 2021, 11:01 PM
May 2021

Saudi Arabia has a horrible record too, yet we don't go to war with them.

betsuni

(25,369 posts)
11. I saw a news report from Afghanistan recently (maybe BBC) where the Taliban said it
Tue May 4, 2021, 11:19 PM
May 2021

was totally going to be nice from now on, they promise.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
12. This is Always the Last Argument Against Leaving!
Tue May 4, 2021, 11:35 PM
May 2021

The forces behind this war are not really concerned about women. This is just a commonly used argument to justify our military bases in the Middle East. Afghanistan has billions of dollars worth of mineral wealth and that is what matters to the military industrial complex.

OnlinePoker

(5,716 posts)
13. It didn't always suck to be a woman in Afghanistan
Wed May 5, 2021, 12:25 AM
May 2021

Women in Afghanistan were not always under house arrest and forbidden by law to leave their homes unchaperoned by a male relative. Once upon a time in pre-Taliban days Afghan women had access to professional careers, university-level education, shops selling non-traditional clothing, public transportation, and public spaces, all of which they happily navigated freely and without supervision.

(with photos)
https://dangerousminds.net/comments/it_didnt_always_suck_to_be_a_woman_in_afghanistan

JI7

(89,239 posts)
14. Not in most of Afghanistan . This was mainly in the cities with people who had money
Wed May 5, 2021, 12:52 AM
May 2021

In most of the country and for most women they were still fully covered and without rights.


IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
21. There are similarities to the US
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:55 AM
May 2021

where people are more liberal in the cities and more RWers and fundies out in the country

JI7

(89,239 posts)
22. No,it's not the same thing. In the US you can go into right wing or liberal areas
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:02 AM
May 2021

and still be open about your beliefs. yeah, there will be hostile people in certain areas but some MAGA hat wearing fool can go into cities and someone with shirts promoting liberal causes can go to right wing areas .

In Afghanistan a woman without full covering would not have been able to go into many parts of the country .

The pictures people keep using to show Afghanistan was more open are usually the same ones and most of those people were family of high officials and other well to do types .

JI7

(89,239 posts)
15. One of the reasons Biden decided to leave was because of Pakistan's influence in the country
Wed May 5, 2021, 12:55 AM
May 2021

It makes it impossible to do much to help the people there .

Response to riversedge (Original post)

pfitz59

(10,296 posts)
17. To them, women are brood stock
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:04 AM
May 2021

to be raped repeatedly until pregnant. and they kept pregnant until they die or lose appeal. then on to the next 9 year-old girl..

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
18. Life for women under the taliban is no life at all
Wed May 5, 2021, 04:56 AM
May 2021

Unless they marry a doctor or their father is a doctor, forget about any medical care. Education...nope. Sunlight on their skin? Again, no. They are treated worse then farm animals. Bought, sold, bred.... but at least a horse can feel the sun on it's skin.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
20. A country of men who blame women for their lack of self-control
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:15 AM
May 2021

the whole culture needs to change - but won't.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
24. Perhaps we should provide Visas to all the women in Afghanistan.
Wed May 5, 2021, 06:09 PM
May 2021

Just leave the men to themselves and their goats.

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