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riversedge

(79,016 posts)
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:02 AM May 2021

Expert says William Barr now faces a potential 'criminal investigation'

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: raw story




May 07, 2021


Judge Amy Berman Jackson, the federal judge who gave prison sentences to two of former President Donald Trump's close allies — his 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort and veteran GOP operative Roger Stone — was highly critical of former U.S. Attorney General William Barr in a recent ruling, describing his response to the Mueller Report as "disingenuous." And legal expert Neal Katyal, who served as acting solicitor general under President Barack Obama, described Jackson's comments as highly damning during an appearance on MSNBC's "Deadline: White House" this week.

Host Nicolle Wallace, a Never Trump conservative who served as White House communications director under President George W. Bush, told Katyal that Barr "misrepresented" the "conclusions" that Barr reached after former Special Counsel Robert Mueller wrapped up the Russia investigation — asking Katyal to weigh in on the "political damage" that Barr did to the United States. And he responded that it gives him no pleasure to have been right when he appeared on MSNBC in 2019 and said that Barr was distorting the Mueller Report.

The 51-year-old Katyal told Wallace and Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig — who also appeared as a guest — "I'm not sitting here feeling good about the fact that I and so many others were right two years ago. I mean, I desperately wanted to be wrong. And our system is set up to trust the attorney general. I mean, Barr was the attorney general of the United States, not the attorney general for President Trump. That's what he was supposed to be — he was supposed to be for the people. But unfortunately, there was always a degree of corruption around him, and he constantly acted like one of Donald Trump's personal attorneys."


Katyal continued, "And now, with the new decision by the judge into his deception, he's finally being treated like one of the gang — which he always was…. What you have in this decision by the judge yesterday — by Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who is a meticulous judge — is a statement that no, Barr actually lied to the court and to the American people. She called, you know, Barr's actions, in the litigating position, disingenuous, which is something you almost never hear a federal judge say about any litigant — particularly not someone from the Justice Department and particularly not the attorney general of the United States."................................

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/attorney-general-william-barr/



I hope something sticks to put Barr out of business!



The Justice Department should take strong disciplinary action against the OLC attorneys who lied in sworn affidavits to Judge Jackson, and it needs to investigate the matter criminally. That means looking into whether Barr conspired with them.



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Expert says William Barr now faces a potential 'criminal investigation' (Original Post) riversedge May 2021 OP
You go, Judge Jackson! grumpyduck May 2021 #1
I'll believe it when I see it. TurboDem May 2021 #2
My thoughts exactly birdographer May 2021 #7
That's the way the US rolls. The greater the criminality, the greater the immunity & celebrity. PSPS May 2021 #9
One of these is not the same stopdiggin May 2021 #13
me too. and I'll add that I see stopdiggin May 2021 #12
At THe Cery Least He Should Be DisBarred Me. May 2021 #3
I can't find the part of the Mueller report that says it can't exonerate Trump underpants May 2021 #4
Mueller said it during the hearing, as well. niyad May 2021 #17
Yeah I know but I KNOW that there was a page number underpants May 2021 #19
Not going to happen Miguelito Loveless May 2021 #5
Please Santa? I never got that pony as a kid. This will make up for it. ZonkerHarris May 2021 #6
Will pay attention if/when it occurs. Not likely. Jaded since Fitzmas. Hoyt May 2021 #8
Same here. War criminals never held accountable. Evolve Dammit May 2021 #21
Fitzmas along with IOKIYR It's ok if You are a Republican. CrispyQ May 2021 #22
Criminal investigations and successful prosecutions with significant jail time for the perps dlk May 2021 #10
Good. LudwigPastorius May 2021 #11
Post removed Post removed May 2021 #18
So which of these OLC attorneys gave sworn affadavits to Jackson? I can't find info on them. ancianita May 2021 #14
Experts said Individual One committed FEC violations paying off a Porn Star. maxsolomon May 2021 #15
Uncharged prisoners languish in Guantanamo SamsDrink May 2021 #16
Mr Barr, meet your place in history... The Unmitigated Gall May 2021 #20
KnR Hekate May 2021 #23
It was telling to me that Barr's former firm did not rehire him LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #24
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve May 2021 #25

grumpyduck

(6,672 posts)
1. You go, Judge Jackson!
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:05 AM
May 2021

TurboDem

(349 posts)
2. I'll believe it when I see it.
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:06 AM
May 2021

It's been almost 4 months since the orange thing left office and I'm still waiting for New York or someone else to prosecute him. Jabba the barr is a legal professional so he'll know how to stay out of jail.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
7. My thoughts exactly
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:44 AM
May 2021

Every corrupt republican is facing some sort of prosecution. Facing it. Never actually experiencing it. SDNY supposedly had their case airtight and they were waiting for Donnie to leave office. He does, and crickets. The woman with the rape charge against Donnie, who was all set to go. Where is she? Rudy. Gaetz. Now Barr. The press says "Oh, they're in trouble now!" and their lives go on as normal with no action taken against them. Is everyone too cowed and afraid of them to actually DO anything but talk about it?

PSPS

(15,174 posts)
9. That's the way the US rolls. The greater the criminality, the greater the immunity & celebrity.
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:05 PM
May 2021

stopdiggin

(14,860 posts)
13. One of these is not the same
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:24 PM
May 2021

Gaetz's criminal behavior has virtually nothing to do with holding office. The others you mention -- tangled up in official duties and (some variation of) qualified immunity. (although we'll have to see how that plays out with the former one -- and things that happened before taking office). But Gaetz is clearly the odd man out here.

stopdiggin

(14,860 posts)
12. me too. and I'll add that I see
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:16 PM
May 2021

any sort of prosecution (or legal penalty) for Barr -- as even more unlikely. The talking heads on TV can fill their time slots -- but please wake me up when you see a real indictment ...

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. At THe Cery Least He Should Be DisBarred
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:08 AM
May 2021

not that it matters because I understand/heard no one is willing to hire him

underpants

(194,316 posts)
4. I can't find the part of the Mueller report that says it can't exonerate Trump
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:12 AM
May 2021

I know that I’ve seen it before but I can’t seem to find it now.

niyad

(129,064 posts)
17. Mueller said it during the hearing, as well.
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:41 PM
May 2021

underpants

(194,316 posts)
19. Yeah I know but I KNOW that there was a page number
Fri May 7, 2021, 01:05 PM
May 2021

I’m 99.5% sure I’d seen it before.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,371 posts)
5. Not going to happen
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:34 AM
May 2021

We used to punish the powerful, now they have too much power. If Barr faces charges, he can take a LOT of people with him, so they will do everything to keep him safe.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
6. Please Santa? I never got that pony as a kid. This will make up for it.
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:44 AM
May 2021
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Will pay attention if/when it occurs. Not likely. Jaded since Fitzmas.
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:57 AM
May 2021

Urban Dictionary: "Fitzmas" is the atmosphere of excitement and anticipation preceding the conclusion of Patrick Fitzgerald's grand jury investigation into the Bush regime's treason and perjury.

Evolve Dammit

(21,373 posts)
21. Same here. War criminals never held accountable.
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:05 PM
May 2021

CrispyQ

(40,544 posts)
22. Fitzmas along with IOKIYR It's ok if You are a Republican.
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:22 PM
May 2021

I'm also jaded. A democratic group would never have been allowed to do what they're doing in AZ.

dlk

(13,080 posts)
10. Criminal investigations and successful prosecutions with significant jail time for the perps
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:14 PM
May 2021

Do the crime, do the time - equal opportunity for white collar criminals seems fair. Nothing ever changes until the day that it does.

LudwigPastorius

(13,977 posts)
11. Good.
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:16 PM
May 2021

Fuck that fat, toady bitch.

Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #11)

ancianita

(42,725 posts)
14. So which of these OLC attorneys gave sworn affadavits to Jackson? I can't find info on them.
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:29 PM
May 2021
Steven Engel, Assistant Attorney General

Henry Whitaker, Deputy Assistant Attorney General
Liam Hardy, Deputy Assistant Attorney General
Jennifer Mascott, Deputy Assistant Attorney General

These four variously either served under Scalia or Thomas or went to conservative schools or teach at conservative schools.


Jackson ruled that one of the documents, described by a Justice Department official as an “untitled, undated draft legal analysis” that was submitted to the attorney general as part of his decision-making, was properly withheld from the group.

But she ordered the release of the other memo, which concludes that the evidence assembled by Mueller’s team would not support an obstruction prosecution of Trump.

In her order, Jackson noted that the legal memo prepared for Barr, and the letter from Barr to Congress that describes the special counsel’s report, were “being written by the very same people at the very same time.

“The emails show not only that the authors and the recipients of the memorandum are working hand in hand to craft the advice that is supposedly being delivered by OLC, but that the letter to Congress is the priority, and it is getting completed first,” the judge wrote.


https://apnews.com/article/politics-europe-government-and-politics-d1ca64dfd5d69f31a36cd1501d0c1caf

Whoever worked out the end game of the Mueller report with Barr should be sweating bullets by May 17, which is when she wants that memo. Because she already knows who likely lied in sworn affadavits to her.

maxsolomon

(38,039 posts)
15. Experts said Individual One committed FEC violations paying off a Porn Star.
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:33 PM
May 2021

Now they've dropped that investigation. So whoop de do.

Neil Kaytal has been a Pollyanna on Trump corruption all along, and he's overshot the reality nearly every time. Now I just roll my eyes when he's on MSNBC.

 

SamsDrink

(50 posts)
16. Uncharged prisoners languish in Guantanamo
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:36 PM
May 2021

Barr, Trump, his criminal family, and the other sycophants from the last Administration roam free. Tell, me, who did more damage to this Country?

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,710 posts)
20. Mr Barr, meet your place in history...
Fri May 7, 2021, 01:45 PM
May 2021

...As the shittiest, most corrupt Attorney General in the history of the nation.

Hekate

(100,130 posts)
23. KnR
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:41 PM
May 2021



LetMyPeopleVote

(173,742 posts)
24. It was telling to me that Barr's former firm did not rehire him
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:58 PM
May 2021

Barr is an asshole and has burned his bridges with biglaw. It is clear that Barr needs to worry about prosecution or other steps

Omaha Steve

(108,211 posts)
25. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Fri May 7, 2021, 03:05 PM
May 2021

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