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Wed May 12, 2021, 03:17 AM

'Disturbing and reckless': Retired brass spread election lie in attack on Biden, Democrats

Source: Politico

By Bryan Bender 49 mins ago

A day after 124 retired generals and admirals released a letter spreading the lie that President Joe Biden stole the election, current and former military officers are speaking out, calling the missive a dangerous news sign of the military being dragged into the trenches of partisan warfare.

The open letter on Monday from a group calling itself Flag Officers 4 America advanced the false conspiracy theory that the presidential vote was rigged in Biden's favor and warned that the nation is "in deep peril" from "a full-blown assault on our Constitutional rights."

“Under a Democrat Congress and the Current Administration,” they wrote, “our Country has taken a hard left turn toward Socialism and a Marxist form of tyrannical government which must be countered now by electing congressional and presidential candidates who will always act to defend our Constitutional Republic.”

The broadside also raises questions about “the mental and physical condition of the Commander in Chief" and sounds the alarm about a host of hot-button issues, such as the border wall. It goes on to accuse congressional leaders of "using the U.S. military as political pawns with thousands of troops deployed around the U.S. Capitol Building."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/disturbing-and-reckless-retired-brass-spread-election-lie-in-attack-on-biden-democrats/ar-BB1gCZkB?li=BBnb7Kz

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Reply 'Disturbing and reckless': Retired brass spread election lie in attack on Biden, Democrats (Original post)
Judi Lynn May 12 OP
elleng May 12 #1
Angrybob2001 May 12 #9
PatSeg May 12 #23
DUgosh May 12 #2
JI7 May 12 #3
2naSalit May 12 #11
mitch96 May 12 #12
COL Mustard May 12 #4
cab67 May 12 #5
2naSalit May 12 #10
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 12 #32
Maeve May 12 #6
ashredux May 12 #14
bucolic_frolic May 12 #7
Bernardo de La Paz May 12 #8
ashredux May 12 #13
2Gingersnaps May 12 #15
oldsoftie May 12 #16
Baitball Blogger May 12 #17
HUAJIAO May 12 #18
niyad May 12 #19
ananda May 12 #20
lonely bird May 12 #21
DFW May 12 #22
Progressive Jones May 12 #27
JohnnyRingo May 12 #29
DFW May 13 #40
Corgigal May 12 #24
spooky3 May 12 #25
CrispyQ May 12 #34
Miguelito Loveless May 12 #26
JohnnyRingo May 12 #28
calimary May 12 #30
Sapient Donkey May 12 #38
Mysterian May 12 #31
Dawson Leery May 12 #33
BobTheSubgenius May 12 #35
tonekat May 12 #36
Sapient Donkey May 12 #37
monkeyman1 May 12 #39

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 03:21 AM

1. DAMN! Too bad the 1st Amendment (probably) protects them

from loosing their retirement benefits, but would hope other actions can be taken against them.

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Response to elleng (Reply #1)

Wed May 12, 2021, 07:08 AM

9. Certain conduct isn't allowed

I'm not sure what is and what isn't allowed but there are certain things that they can still be punished for that most civilians are allowed. This won't be pushed but i bet it comes really close to crossing the line.

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Response to Angrybob2001 (Reply #9)

Wed May 12, 2021, 09:24 AM

23. I would hope so

This is extremely disturbing and surely must violate the oath that they took. It is THEIR behavior and their awful letter that is ""a full-blown assault on our Constitutional rights." Like the rights of the people to have their votes count.

The madness, this cancer has metastasized to every part of our society. If there are retired generals and admirals who feel this way, undoubtedly there also are some who are actively serving. That is even more disturbing.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 03:37 AM

2. Yawn

Their message is so pathetic -

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 03:59 AM

3. They seem to mostly be like those swift boat losers that went after Kerry in 2004

Mainly losers who haven't made much of their lives.


Mentioned some guy running got office, some connections to right wing groups, convicted on Iran counts etc. Nobody with credibility.


"The letter, mostly signed by ex-military leaders who have been out of uniform for decades, "

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Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Wed May 12, 2021, 07:37 AM

11. +1

I wonder how many are dead yet signed on.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Wed May 12, 2021, 07:43 AM

12. I wonder how many work for the "Military Industrial Complex" got to keep the boss happy..nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 04:10 AM

4. Meh. They're Entitled To Their Opinion

Guess nobody told them that elections have consequences.

LTC, AUS (Ret)

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 06:25 AM

5. I think someone should check the signatures.

I'm serious. The open letter is so poorly written, and has so many grammatical errors, that I find it hard to believe any highly-educated person - and one has to be highly educated to get that far up the chain of command - would agree to put his or her signature on it, even if that person agreed with the underlying message.

Perhaps not all of the people associated with the letter actually knew of this? Or didn't read it very carefully?

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Response to cab67 (Reply #5)

Wed May 12, 2021, 07:36 AM

10. +1

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Response to cab67 (Reply #5)

Wed May 12, 2021, 11:34 AM

32. Indeed

Some journalist should try to contact the signers to see if this is real or not.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 06:34 AM

6. I'd like to see anyone who wrote that or signed onto in actually define "socialism"

Some top Google results:
Socialism is an economic and political system where the workers own the means of production (i. e. farms, factories, tools, and raw materials.) ... Socialists believe that everything in society is made by the cooperative efforts of the people and citizens.


Socialism is a populist economic and political system based on public ownership (also known as collective or common ownership) of the means of production. Those means include the machinery, tools, and factories used to produce goods that aim to directly satisfy human needs.


Socialism is a system that shares economic output equally throughout the population. · It values the collective well-being of the community, rather than individuals.

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Response to Maeve (Reply #6)

Wed May 12, 2021, 08:09 AM

14. You are correct....they throw out words, but know not their meaning

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 06:45 AM

7. It's a war against US sovereignty at this point

The election is over. The only "right" they're worried about is their ability to elect the dictator that supports their lies.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 06:59 AM

8. Notice the 124 want to defend the "Republic" and NOT DEFEND democracy. . . . nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 08:08 AM

13. There is a smell to this one....needs some checking

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Response to ashredux (Reply #13)

Wed May 12, 2021, 08:22 AM

15. Like maybe General Charles Flynn's happy retirement

to Hawaii may not be so happy? Not when you have a world to rule?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 08:37 AM

16. How have my most hardline trumper FB friends not posted this?

this is the first ive seen it

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 08:39 AM

17. I told you so. We have a huge problem with these retired officers.

They were put up on such a pedestal that they have become a very privileged society.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 08:59 AM

18. Projection much......?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 09:03 AM

19. Can they prove who they are?

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Response to niyad (Reply #19)

Wed May 12, 2021, 09:12 AM

20. Yep, looks fishy to me.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 09:17 AM

21. Sorry, but...

They wouldn’t know socialism or a Marxist tyrannical government if it walked up and kicked them in the balls.

As for rights? How about the right to vote?

Asshats.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 09:21 AM

22. Key words

„Democrat“ as an adjective and „socialist.“

This sounds more like something from Breitbart than something from a group of retired officers of the US military. If these guys had been in charge of our country’s armed forces, we would have nuked both North Korea and Massachusetts long ago.

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Response to DFW (Reply #22)

Wed May 12, 2021, 10:12 AM

27. Thank you. This letter is shady as can be. nt

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Response to DFW (Reply #22)

Wed May 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

29. Yes

That jumps out at me too.
I'm sure this is being vetted and I wouldn't be surprised to learn it's a farce.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #29)

Thu May 13, 2021, 01:18 AM

40. This used to happen a lot

Some nasty Republicans put out a rant called "George Carlin, bad American." It was some right wing diatribe, and Carlin disowned it as soon as he could.

Then the "American Legion" put out some BS explanation of what each of the thirteen folds mean in the flags handed to the survivors of veterans at their funerals. As one who received of those flags, I was horrified, and got the Pentagon to state that this was in no way connected with them, and they had nothing to do with it. The right wing stood by it for years, nonetheless.

It is a disgusting Republican tactic (I know, I know, #16,647)--make up some stupid rant, attach a fictitious origin to it, and then put it out on the internet, and wait for it to be debunked. What was that about a lie making its way around the world before the truth has gotten both of its shoes on?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 09:30 AM

24. Call all the old horse asses

back into service, they are officers, so they are stuck.

Fire them, give their pensions funding to people who need to pay rent.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 09:43 AM

25. Can they be recalled to service and court-martialled? Nt

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #25)

Wed May 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

34. They need to do it to Flynn--make an example.

Also punch the bully Q movement in the face. We're too nice. We always have been.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 09:50 AM

26. This is quite disturbing

and is just throwing gasoline on a smouldering fire.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 10:46 AM

28. This just doesn't smell right.

From the language we can tell it was written by a republican operative. How these retired officers came to sign on is unknown.

It could have been culled from a simple FaceBook ad instructing people to "click here if you think the election was stolen" and written later with names that were cherry picked. It's hard to believe so many college educated professionals would buy into the Big Lie, even if they were Trump supporters.

I'm sure it's being vetted now.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 11:12 AM

30. "Tyrannical government"???

Shows just how cockeyed and empty-headed they are.

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Response to calimary (Reply #30)

Wed May 12, 2021, 03:46 PM

38. It's always fun to ask people like that what actions they view as being tyrannical.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 11:17 AM

31. Incitement to insurrection

These retired officers should be punished, with reduction to E-1 and loss of retirement benefits.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 11:41 AM

33. The same thing happened in France.

The global movement to undermine democracy is sophisticated.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

35. How did that many people that out of touch with reality rise to those positions?

I always thought the military had a very stringent vetting culture, but apparently, that was wrong. The signatories to that letter have all the same beliefs, anger and even talking points as their rabid civilian counterparts. For this level of recklessness to be an aberration, there must be FAR more generals and admirals than I ever thought.

It is dismaying beyond belief to read these words and know these facts. The military is ABSOLUTELY the most important institution to "hold" in order to save the Republic when push comes to shove.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 02:31 PM

36. More Swift Boating?

Just a name change from that to Flag Officers 4 America.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 03:45 PM

37. lol Biden the marxist...

Tyrannical too!!!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Wed May 12, 2021, 08:49 PM

39. politico is crap ! notice no names !

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