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Mon May 17, 2021, 06:06 PM

2 Navy training jets collide over South Texas, injuring 1

Source: Associated Press

41 minutes ago

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (AP) — Two Navy training jets collided over South Texas on Monday, forcing the two crew members on one plane to bail out and leaving one of them with minor injuries, the military said.

The two British-built T-45C Goshawk jets collided at around 11 a.m. over Ricardo, about 50 miles (80 kilometers) southwest of Corpus Christi, Corpus Christi-based Chief of Naval Air Training tweeted.

One jet with a student and instructor aboard was able to land safely at nearby Naval Air Station Kingsville. The other jet crashed nearby after its student pilot and instructor ejected safely. One of them was treated for minor injuries at a Corpus Christi hospital.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/co-state-wire-texas-sports-37165a5735876c9df5ba3563064f20b8

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Reply 2 Navy training jets collide over South Texas, injuring 1 (Original post)
turbinetree May 17 OP
Irish_Dem May 17 #1
snort May 17 #3
Irish_Dem May 17 #6
snort May 17 #8
Irish_Dem May 17 #9
snort May 17 #10
Irish_Dem May 17 #11
snort May 17 #12
Irish_Dem May 17 #13
turbinetree May 18 #17
Irish_Dem May 18 #18
turbinetree May 18 #19
Irish_Dem May 18 #20
turbinetree May 18 #21
Irish_Dem May 18 #22
turbinetree May 18 #23
Irish_Dem May 18 #24
COL Mustard May 17 #2
Irish_Dem May 17 #4
COL Mustard May 17 #5
Irish_Dem May 17 #7
TomWilm May 18 #16
LeftInTX May 17 #14
pfitz59 May 18 #15

Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:13 PM

1. "Any crash you can walk away from is a good one." Thank God they are safe, very lucky crew.

Quote from my USAF combat veteran father.
Flew combat in three wars.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:32 PM

3. Same.

He was a member of the Caterpillar Club. Yours?

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Response to snort (Reply #3)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:41 PM

6. My father would never tell us what happened to him during combat.

He had a lot of medals in a drawer that we rarely looked at.
He was humble and also kept classified information classified his entire life. He was strict USAF, everything by the rules.

I knew he flew the Burma Hump during WWII as navigator and tail gunner.
You probably know how dangerous that was. So if he bailed it would have been then.

In Viet Nam he flew cargo and air refuelers in south and north VN.
We were stationed near VN during the war, if his plane had gone down, we would have probably heard via AF grapevine.

In Korea, he would never say what he did. Came back with what we now know is PTSD.

Where did your dad bail?

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #6)

Mon May 17, 2021, 07:53 PM

8. Over Montana!

LOL. He was training one of his new guys in an F-106 when it decided it didn't want to fly anymore. But yeah, Dad never talked much about Viet Nam and never about Korea. He was the Chief liaison for the Northern and Southern Cal divisions in '68-'69. If your Dad was there then, then there's a reasonable chance they worked together.

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Response to snort (Reply #8)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:08 PM

9. Thank God it was over Montana. I was picturing over enemy territory.

Of course that was the real worry during wartime. I was shocked the first time I saw my dad carry a side arm when he was getting ready to fly to VN. He told me it was in case they were shot down and had to shot their way out of trouble. The gun was small and I didn't hold out a lot of hope the plan would work.

But a plane going down any where any time is a big worry as well.

I am glad your Dad was safe. In terms of the F-106 not wanting to fly any more, my Dad always had a lot of respect for the maintenance crews, he said they were the ones who kept the planes up in the air.

We were in Southeast Asia from 1960 to 1964, so that is when Dad was flying combat in VN.

I wonder why our fathers would never talk about Korea. That is odd isn't it?

Nice talking to a fellow brat!

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #9)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:18 PM

10. We're two peas in a pod.

I have Dad's .380 he purchased in Korea. The .45 they were issued was to tight a fit for the cockpit of an F86. Born at Tyndall. You?

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Response to snort (Reply #10)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:38 PM

11. I have no idea what kind of gun my dad was carrying in VN. I remember it was small.

But he had it attached to a belt around his waist, with a holster. Maybe the guns were small so they fit in the cockpits.
He didn't purchase it, it was government issue.

I was born in Northern Wisconsin because my Dad was in Korea at the time, so my mother went to stay with her parents.
Apparently when I was born my dad was getting ready to take off, was on the runway, and one of the ground crew came running out and stopped the plane to tell him that he had a baby daughter. His first child! I like that story. I actually stopped a USAF plane from taking off on time!

Then one brother and sister were born at Castle AFB, and another brother and sister were born at Ft Snelling in MN, a reserve unit my dad was in charge of.

During the VN war we were stationed at Yokota and Naha.

Tyndall is a sweet spot, on the beach.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #11)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:30 PM

12. Whoa, we were stationed at Castle in '68 and '69.

Small World kinda stuff goin' on here. For TDY we lived on Mexico Beach. It was a great time to be a kid.

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Response to snort (Reply #12)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:35 PM

13. We were in Castle in the early 50's.

Right we lived on the beach in Okinawa, it was really great.

And in Japan we lived out in the paddies right outside of Tokyo.
I loved everything about Japan. And am partial to everything Asian to this day.

Being an AF brat had pros and cons. Certainly should hardship assignments, and constant moving around.
But great DOD schools, loved the air bases, and loved living in different areas of the US and Asia.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #13)

Tue May 18, 2021, 11:22 AM

17. We also were stationed at Castle in 50's and went to Japan

and then March, Ellsworth, Wiesbaden, near Tokyo, that's just for starters

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #17)

Tue May 18, 2021, 03:05 PM

18. When were you in Tokyo?

We were there in the early 60's.

My parents were at March before I was born.

I wish we had gotten to Germany.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #18)

Tue May 18, 2021, 04:18 PM

19. Was in Utah and then we went to Tokyo in the very early 1950's came back and I could speak Japanese

better than I could speak English, very formative years like 5 years old, my brother was born in Japan.
I can still remember living off base in Germany and going down to the Rhine River and there was a bakery, that made marshmallow Germany chocolate cookie to this day that was and still is the best cookie I have ever had and we lived near a gasthaus in Wiesbaden.
It has been a amazing adventure.....

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #19)

Tue May 18, 2021, 04:24 PM

20. I have the same kind of memory about Japanese ice cream and chocolate bars.

Really wonderful.

We weren't allowed to eat Japanese ice cream because their cows were not tested for TB at the time.
So we would sneak out to the food stands and eat it secretly.

Meiji chocolate is fabulous.

That is so neat you could speak Japanese so well. Good for you.

I visited a friend who lived with her husband on an AF missile silo base in Europe and I could not believe how good the food was all over Europe. Not at all like American food.

Right being a brat is an adventure. People would not believe what our lives were like growing up.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #20)

Tue May 18, 2021, 04:52 PM

21. It really makes you even though they are now memories, understand, the world better

in a lot of ways. I had great teachers. I do not remember the ice cream, probably because of what you said about the TB. We had a Japanese house maid and she was earning a living, because it was 6 years after WWII, and she taught me Japanese and we were there during the Korean war, we came back state side in the mid 1950's, her name was Keiko. She passed away in the mid 1990's...

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #21)

Tue May 18, 2021, 05:18 PM

22. Yes Indeed.

Yes I think military kids have a better understanding of the world than kids who never leave their hometown.

Yes we had a maid as well. And yes they were earning a living in what was then a third world country.
We lived out in the paddies as we called it. No room on base. But it was really neat to live off base.

The DOD teachers were excellent and we got a wonderful education from them.

I still love all things Asian to this day. And people have to take their shoes off at the door when entering my home!

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #22)

Tue May 18, 2021, 05:27 PM

23. That pretty cool, about the shoes....

we also took off our shoes, and we also lived off base....

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #23)

Tue May 18, 2021, 06:13 PM

24. :)

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:20 PM

2. The Root Cause Is The British Jets

The pilots were looking the wrong way!

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #2)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:33 PM

4. Right, Brit planes fly on the wrong side of the road here in the US.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:35 PM

5. When I'm There, I Always

Look both ways. In Dublin they have signs on the road that say “Look Right” or “Look Left” as appropriate. I’ve only been killed twice!

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #5)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:42 PM

7. I wouldn't drive there. I would be dead the first hour.

Glad you have been reincarnated back to the US.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #7)

Tue May 18, 2021, 04:22 AM

16. And it is so confusing to hitchhike with the wrong thumb out!

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:53 PM

14. Amazing two mid air collisions within one week and no serious injuries!

‘Amazing’: Pilots, passenger uninjured after midair crash
By PATTY NIEBERG May 13, 2021

https://apnews.com/article/denver-3467a976f0cdb3cc64a30417454f944e

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Tue May 18, 2021, 01:41 AM

15. Small airplane, big sky

all it takes is a moments distraction.

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