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Mon May 17, 2021, 06:23 PM

Biden voices support for a cease-fire in a call with Israel's Netanyahu.

Source: New York Times




President Biden expressed support for a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas on Monday during a call with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. In a readout of Mr. Biden’s call, White House officials said the president “expressed his support for a cease-fire and discussed U.S. engagement with Egypt and other partners towards that end.”

The statement fell short of an immediate demand for an end to Israel’s bombing campaign in Gaza, which has been met with rocket fire by Hamas from Gaza into Israel. The White House also said Mr. Biden “reiterated his firm support for Israel’s right to defend itself against indiscriminate rocket attacks.”

The Biden administration had previously avoided the use of the term “cease-fire,” with top officials like Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken talking instead about the need for a “sustainable calm” and others talking about the need for “restraint.” While a cease-fire would be welcomed by the White House, Mr. Netanyahu has in recent days made clear that he intended to continue bombing until Israel has destroyed Hamas’s stockpile of rockets, launchers, and the tunnels from which Hamas fighters are operating.

“We’re trying to degrade Hamas’s terrorist abilities and to degrade their will to do this again,” Mr. Netanyahu said on Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “So it will take some time. I hope it won’t take long, but it’s not immediate.” So far, Israel has rejected efforts by Egypt, Qatar and the United States to broker a cease-fire. And Hamas has continued its rocket fire into Israel.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/world/middleeast/biden-netanyahu-ceasefire.html

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Reply Biden voices support for a cease-fire in a call with Israel's Netanyahu. (Original post)
BumRushDaShow May 17 OP
captain queeg May 17 #1
Budi May 17 #4
Budi May 17 #2
George II May 17 #7
former9thward May 17 #12
Steelrolled May 18 #17
ripcord May 17 #3
Humanist_Activist May 17 #5
ripcord May 18 #18
Humanist_Activist May 18 #20
ripcord May 18 #21
Humanist_Activist May 18 #22
ripcord May 18 #23
Budi May 17 #8
Jay25 May 17 #6
Budi May 17 #10
NH Ethylene May 17 #13
Rural_Progressive May 17 #9
Budi May 17 #11
Rural_Progressive May 17 #15
Beastly Boy May 18 #19
JoeOtterbein May 17 #14
Ziggysmom May 18 #16

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:33 PM

1. They should just call Jarad back. He had it all figured out

He read some books about the Middle East so he’s an expert now.

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #1)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:49 PM

4. K & R

I almost forgot about that worm.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:47 PM

2. Biden's expert political niche. Negotiating calmly, with a big stick.

"Why doesn't Biden DO SOMETHING!", (they screeched all day)...but...but...oh never mind."

Looks like he's already been on this path with Netanyahu. Because THIS IS WHAT President Joe Biden Does.

They damned near tripped over each other damning the President...all the while he was negotiating a solution.

Fools. 🙄 they don't Know Joe.

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Response to Budi (Reply #2)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:18 PM

7. Biden knows what he's doing, and he has the best group of people assembled to handle this....

Sadly people are losing their lives, but if Biden reflexively acts it could result in more deaths.

In their defense, the nation of Israel has been under the gun and threatened from the first day of their existence in 1948. Israel never vowed to "drive them into the sea" as the surrounding Arab countries have done for the last 70+ years.

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Response to Budi (Reply #2)

Mon May 17, 2021, 09:48 PM

12. I don't expect Biden to do anything just as I have never expected a president to do anything

about this issue. But what "big stick" are you talking about? He has called for a cease fire as everyone has. What "path" has he been with Netanyahu?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #12)

Tue May 18, 2021, 12:25 AM

17. I think Biden just has to look like he is trying

Although the fact that apparently the US are blocking resolutions in the UN might make that a little tricky.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:48 PM

3. They have it backwards

Israel's missiles aren't being met with rockets, Hamas' rockets are being met with missiles since Hamas launched first.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #3)

Mon May 17, 2021, 06:57 PM

5. That's inaccurate, Hamas warned Israel to leave the al-Aqsa Mosque or they will start rocket...

 

attacks, after the Mosque was raided.

They didn't leave so the rocket attacks occurred.

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Response to Humanist_Activist (Reply #5)

Tue May 18, 2021, 09:37 AM

18. And you consider that an appropriate level of response?

This is why Biden won't call out Israel and even the Arab nations are split, firing rockets is Hamas response to everything.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #18)

Tue May 18, 2021, 12:21 PM

20. No, but it also doesn't excuse Israel's wildly....

 

disproportionate response.

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Response to Humanist_Activist (Reply #20)

Tue May 18, 2021, 02:36 PM

21. Hamas knows what Israel's response to rocket launches is

So why would they subject the Palestinian people to that by making the first strike? I forgot terrorist don't care about the women and children they hide behind that's why we call them terrorists.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #21)

Tue May 18, 2021, 02:59 PM

22. They weren't unprovoked, Israel was displacing Palestinians

 

In East Jerusalem, and again Israel has control over their own responses, they literally encircle Gaza and have them walled in. The airstrikes are completely unnecessary except as collective punishment of the civilian population. All this will do is further radicalize the Palestinians.

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Response to Humanist_Activist (Reply #22)

Tue May 18, 2021, 03:09 PM

23. Then maybe Hamas should stop firing rockets

Their rockets launches are designed to provoke a response from Israel so they can try and play the victim after attacking first. This time not even all the Arab country's are backing their callous stupidity and indifference to the safety of their own people.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 07:18 PM

6. They are being allowed to finish what they started, as the world watches. Those that are not

killed will be broken. Land grabbing will resume and as long as Palestinians allow Israel to do as they please, breathing gets a little easier. If they get tired of having less and less, barely surviving and decide to fight back, everything starts over again, including false equivalencies.

What a fucked up world we live in, all over the planet, minorities are always the targets of some sort of oppression.

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Response to Jay25 (Reply #6)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:36 PM

10. HAMAS & the nations that fund them are in it for a bigger show that you describe.

It isn't that simplified.
And Palestine's hands are as dirty as Israel.

HAMAS doesn't give a shit about Palestinians.
That is evident as they embed their weapons within locations that allow them to use human beings as a shield.

HAMAS has their own agenda based on who's funding them.

This is far deeper than 2 warring factions.








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Response to Jay25 (Reply #6)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:04 PM

13. It's horrible. And it never ends.

The Palestinians have such a hopeless existence.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:30 PM

9. Anyone able to explain to me why

we are going to send Israel something like $700 million in new weapons while this whole mess is going on. Seems like sending a seriously mixed message to me.

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #9)

Mon May 17, 2021, 08:38 PM

11. The deal sends to both Israel & Palestine

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Response to Budi (Reply #11)

Mon May 17, 2021, 11:45 PM

15. So we're sending weapons to both sides?

Oh gosh, that is so much better

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Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #9)

Tue May 18, 2021, 10:45 AM

19. I am afraid the explanation may take hundreds if not thousands of single-spaced pages of text.

It will certainly not fit in a meme. Or a DU thread.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon May 17, 2021, 10:22 PM

14. How many children have to die, before we decide if this is just "self-defense" as claimed. Or...

...ethnic, and religious, cleansing?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue May 18, 2021, 12:06 AM

16. The US bombed the crap out of Iraq and killed MANY civilians

for a hell of a lot less. Remember those weapons of mass destruction?
Israel is surrounded by terrorist supporting nations. Hamas doesn’t give a damn about those poor suffering Palestinians.

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