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TexasTowelie

(112,065 posts)
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 03:59 PM Jun 2021

Nevada governor signs law giving state the 1st presidential primary

Source: AP

LAS VEGAS — Nevada Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak, signed into law Friday a bill that would make the Western state the first to vote in the 2024 presidential primary contests, bumping Iowa and New Hampshire from their leadoff spots.

Signing the law is a gamble.

It's likely to set off maneuvering by other states, especially Iowa and New Hampshire, trying to move up their contests. The national political parties would need to agree to changes in the calendar or state parties could risk losing their delegates at presidential nominating conventions.

The Democratic National Committee has not yet signaled whether it would support the calendar shakeup and isn't expected to start writing rules for its nominating process until next year.

Read more: https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/governor-signs-law-giving-nevada-1st-presidential-primary/507-565483d2-a26f-4a90-bbef-184ea0ad4ee2

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Nevada governor signs law giving state the 1st presidential primary (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jun 2021 OP
Will this override Iowa? . . . Lovie777 Jun 2021 #1
Hope so. As an Iowan, I'm sick of all the SharonClark Jun 2021 #2
I can see this now nitpicker Jun 2021 #3
don't laugh - we (Iowa) went through this a few years back and rurallib Jun 2021 #14
Make it rotating multi primaries question everything Jun 2021 #4
Your Suggestion Has Merit, and... wyn borkins Jun 2021 #5
"Get into the process"? Bettie Jun 2021 #6
2525? I don't think we should be writing rules for 500 years from now. former9thward Jun 2021 #7
Well, there's that too Bettie Jun 2021 #8
Oops...My Response Was Poorly Worded...My Bad wyn borkins Jun 2021 #9
In the year 2525 rambler_american Jun 2021 #21
Super New Years Day will be legend in a few years Ruby the Liberal Jun 2021 #10
Nevadowa. yonder Jun 2021 #11
Meaningless symbolism... brooklynite Jun 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Jun 2021 #13
Avoid the jockeying. "Our is same day as Iowa's" OneBro Jun 2021 #15
How about every state Karma13612 Jun 2021 #16
Not flaming; simple logic brooklynite Jun 2021 #17
The whole country should do it on the same day. The Jungle 1 Jun 2021 #18
FFS - moving the first primary to another caucus state isn't solving the problem of Politicub Jun 2021 #19
I believe they are not doing a caucus anymore Bettie Jun 2021 #22
Make it happen!!! oasis Jun 2021 #20
December 30, 2023 will be a lovely day for the New Hampshire Primary... brooklynite Jun 2021 #23
"Nothing else in the world is so powerful as the idea to move Nevada oasis Jun 2021 #24
Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and South Carolina should all go first on the same day JI7 Jun 2021 #25
I have a MUCH better idea, but it would take an amendment jmowreader Jun 2021 #26
Foolish idea... brooklynite Jun 2021 #27

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
2. Hope so. As an Iowan, I'm sick of all the
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 04:11 PM
Jun 2021

pandering and unfairness of the process but the two state parties are determined to keep Iowa first. I stopped my monthly donation to the Iowa Dems as a result.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
3. I can see this now
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jun 2021

All three states will manouvre until their primary contests are 8 Nov 2023.

((Have to get the 2023 general election out of the way first...))

rurallib

(62,403 posts)
14. don't laugh - we (Iowa) went through this a few years back and
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:28 PM
Jun 2021

at one point Christmas week was being floated as a possible date.

I personally think the country ought to be divided into sections and each section gets to lead every 16 years or so

question everything

(47,460 posts)
4. Make it rotating multi primaries
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 04:36 PM
Jun 2021

Either regional, or use other criteria to form groups - 4 0r 5 - and rotate their order.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
5. Your Suggestion Has Merit, and...
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jun 2021

I would agree with your 'rotational multi-state adjustment' theory as long as neither Iowa nor New Hampshire get into the process (again) until at least the year 2525. And that Louis Gohmert not be allowed to proceed with his suggested (moon/earth) rotation and orbit shifting operations.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
6. "Get into the process"?
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:53 PM
Jun 2021

So, no votes for the two states you dislike until after 2525?

Are we allowed to vote in the presidential election at all or just not permitted a primary?

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
7. 2525? I don't think we should be writing rules for 500 years from now.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 08:42 PM
Jun 2021

If there is still a government they will probably be doing something different by then.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
9. Oops...My Response Was Poorly Worded...My Bad
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jun 2021

All would be the same as has been (occurring) in the past, except the two states noted would not be first nor second (in the scheme of those things); and I herewith totally withdraw my silly statement of not allowing the great state of Iowa nor the grand state of New Hampshire to perform their official duties until that previously detailed year.

Of course you would be allowed to vote in both the primary as well as in the actual Presidential election(s).

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
10. Super New Years Day will be legend in a few years
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:03 PM
Jun 2021

Cap off the holidays by watching all of the results coming in.

brooklynite

(94,482 posts)
12. Meaningless symbolism...
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jun 2021

1. Iowa holds a Caucus, and can go before anyone else. The Republican Iowa Government will not change to a Primary.

2. New Hampshire also has a first in the nation Primary Law and will adjust their date accordingly (for 2008, they were prepared to move their date to December 2007).

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
15. Avoid the jockeying. "Our is same day as Iowa's"
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:31 PM
Jun 2021

Better yet, "Same day as the first state to vote, but not later than . . . "

Karma13612

(4,549 posts)
16. How about every state
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:14 PM
Jun 2021

On the same day.

One national Primary day.
Six months prior to the general.

So that’s Early May. Good weather for the entire country; no more standing outside in cold sleet or wet snow in the early states.

Also eliminates all the claims about voters attempting to vote twice in different party primaries (I heard that was a problem??) or simply changing parties to vote and mess with the opposing party’s candidate. AND it eliminates the problem with “momentum” of one candidate over another due to staggered wins.

We need some standardization. Not that it would ever be agreed to in reality. America loves it’s convoluted states rights stuff over simplicity and equality for all voters.

Now just give me a quick second to put on my fire-proof clothes.
OK, I’m ready! Let the flaming begin

brooklynite

(94,482 posts)
17. Not flaming; simple logic
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 12:42 AM
Jun 2021

A national primary will give a strong edge to candidates with name recognition and large fund-raising operations; the opportunity for a Pete Buttigieg or Andrew Yang (or an obscure Governor like Jimmy Carter) to get noticed will disappear. Additionally, there'll be no instances of a candidate meeting with a group of voters in a town hall and responding to real issue questions. Everything will be TV commercials, rallies with the already convinced and huge amounts of fundraising.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
19. FFS - moving the first primary to another caucus state isn't solving the problem of
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 03:17 PM
Jun 2021

caucuses. There are real issues with accessibility, arcane rules and peer pressure that skew caucus results. They're not good barometers.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
22. I believe they are not doing a caucus anymore
Sat Jun 12, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jun 2021

but having a primary instead.

Wish Iowa would do this too. Aside from the very real issues, it is a fuckton of work for those of us who have to run our local precincts.

oasis

(49,365 posts)
24. "Nothing else in the world is so powerful as the idea to move Nevada
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 01:12 AM
Jun 2021

ahead of the primary/caucus states." Victor Hugo.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
25. Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, and South Carolina should all go first on the same day
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 02:43 AM
Jun 2021

and all should be a primary.

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
26. I have a MUCH better idea, but it would take an amendment
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jun 2021

National Campaign Start Day will be January 1. Any campaigning for president before that date will be a federal offense. The punishment will be loss of the right to run for any political office.

National Primary Week (your state’s choice, primary or caucus) will be the first Saturday of April to the Friday after that. All 50 states will choose the candidates for president at that time.

National Election Week will be July 5 through 11. There will be elections for federal office every four years, so the House terms will be 4 years and Senate terms will be 8. This way, the president will have the same Congress to deal with his or her full term. Presidents can still serve two terms, and Congress can still serve as long as it likes.

Safe Harbor Day will be August 1. On that date, all ballots will be shipped to the National Archives.

The Electoral College meets over Labor Day weekend, unless we go to a national popular vote system. If we keep the EC, use the number of Representatives as the number of electors...so Wyoming gets one vote and not three.

During the period between Labor Day and New Government Day, Congress will set up its field office leases and the new Cabinet will be chosen.

New Government Day will be January 1. The Congress will be sworn in at 9 am. The President and VP will be sworn in at noon. Football games will start at 1 pm.

The reason elections are held in November is so farmers would be able to leave work to vote. Farmers have cars now, so there’s no reason to wait that long any more.

brooklynite

(94,482 posts)
27. Foolish idea...
Sun Jun 13, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jun 2021

Andrew Yang, not an elected official, advocated for Congress to pass a Universal Basic Income.

Amy Klobuchar, an elected official is invited to give a speech a year before the Election at the NH Democratic Party dinner and talk about important policies facing the Senate.

Joe Biden, a former elected official is invited on to an MSNBC show to talk about how the Obama Administration compares to the Trump Administration.

Question: we’re any of them “campaigning”?

Bottom line: campaigns start as early as candidates want them to. If you don’t want to engage with the candidates, tune them out.

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