Lara Trump: Americans Living Along Border "Better Arm Up and Get Guns and Be Ready"

[70sEraVet]

Source: Slate

Lara Trump, the daughter-in-law of former President Donald Trump, said that Americans who are living along the southern border need to take their security into their own hands by obtaining firearms and be ready to shoot them....in her appearance on Fox News’ Justice With Judge Jeanine.

“I guess they better arm up and get guns and be ready, and maybe they’re going to have to start taking matters into their own hands. "

Read more: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/lara-trump-along-border-better-arm-up-get-guns.html

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There HAS to be some legal repercussions for fomenting this kind of violence. And Fox is as guilty as that trash-in-law.

[turbinetree]

1. There is this law.........to Lock this and that other POS up .....and whats really classic

she is suppose to be some kind of former judge......

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373

[SharonAnn]

16. Let her go first and show us how it's done!

[FarPoint]

17. Marvelous idea...

She can show true leadership...

[Warpy]

2. Most people who cross here, legally or illegally

commit the heinous crimes of working, paying taxes, and raising their families.

Doesn't give that carpetbagging parasite Lara much room to talk.

[DBoon]

6. meaning illegal immigrants all contribute more to society than any Trump

Have any Trump done a day of real work in their life (excluding grifting)?

Have they paid any taxes?

Have they actually done the hard work of raising a family properly?

The enemy is in the other direction, Lara

[Mr.Bill]

8. In California,

they tend to work very hard harvesting the crops that provide half the nations food. Wouldn't make much sense to shoot at them.

[Warpy]

20. Exactly, plus most don't stay here in this state

They're delivered to pickup points on this side of the border to fulfill arrangements the coyotes make with businesses across the country to supply a labor force who will work for shit wages and not dare to complain. The scandal here is human trafficking in horrible conditions, people packed into trucks with no water and no sanitation, driven hundreds of miles. Some don't make it.

We're a sanctuary city in pretty much a sanctuary state, which means La Migra is going to have to do its own damned job.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. Fear, FEAR, and especially Fear of the Other is all RepubliQons have to sell these days

Thinly veiled racism that Lara tRump, a White Person, has some imagined right to murder people who cross a border for a better life.

Plus she married into an immigrant family grand-fathered by a German draft dodger who ran a brothel before entering the US for a better life.

She was born named Yunaska, which originates from Slovakia.

[question everything]

4. What are her chances of becoming a senator?

[GB_RN]

7. None.

She announced at the state GOPQ convention last week that she’s not running. Even if she did, she has no policy experience, hasn’t lived here in at least a decade and other baggage.

[question everything]

9. Thanks, good to know

[msongs]

5. fortunately for the trumpists millions of latinos vote for trumps and republicans nt

[AZLD4Candidate]

10. I live on the border. No thank you.

I'm tired of seeing border patrol racing down the roads of the Tohono o'Odham Nation without even attempting to obey simple traffic laws.

[Blue Owl]

11. Or in Lara's case, Gum up and get arms

[not fooled]

12. She has close Secret Service protection

if you know what I mean.

Our tax dollars at work!

[IcyPeas]

13. how do they get away with fomenting violence like this?

even after January 6.... they're still doing it. and they know exactly what they're saying.

[DallasNE]

35. Seent Post #31 Below

[sheilahi]

14. shut the fuck up

Nobody's listening Lara. Being married to Eric (cringe, shudder) you lost all traces of credibility.

[LogicFirst]

15. Also be ready to go to prison for murder or attempted murder.

Maybe Lara will do your time for you.

[CountAllVotes]

18. Yes ma'am !!!!

Got my arms UP and I am ready to go.

Now

[Kali]

19. ugly stupid twit

(ugly person, not appearance)

first of all most anybody that cares is already armed, others are for other reasons. so it is all for show with the drumpf clan.

I STILL can't believe some of my neighbors fell for a New York real estate developer - in the old days that is the type of person that epitomized westerners' contempt of eastern urban elitists. WTF is wrong with people???

[Scruffy1]

21. I happen to live on the border.

There is absolutely nothing happening here except a massive heat wave. All of the border areas of Texas are highly Hispanic and heavily favor the Democratic Party. It's just race baiting. The only problem we have with the border is it's still shut down. I really want to go to see my dentist and eye doctor. A lot of people i know have relatives on the other side and I've met a lot of US retirees who live across the river. On any given normal Sunday before the pandemic many thousands walk across to Mexico and almost as many walk to the USA. On the Mexican side you don't need an ID, but you have to have one to come to the USA. Violence has been pretty close to zero for years. The border patrol has agents every mile and sends planes and helicopters to scan the border in the mornings and evenings. I don't think anybody in the Rio Grande valley worries much about undocumented immigrants hoping to make a better life for themselves.

[riversedge]

22. thanks for informative post.

[Noodleboy13]

23. Whew, For a sec there I thought Canada was gonna invade and shit was bout to get real

peace,
Noodleboy

[Marthe48]

24. Us vs. them mentality

Another one with no frontal lobe development, who had no regard for the consequences of hateful comments.

[DallasNE]

25. Protected Speech?

We all know the one about you not being able to shout fire in a croweded theatre as the example of speech that is not protected.

With that as the standard, where does Lara Trump's comment fit in - above the bar or below the bar"

“I don’t know what you tell the people that live at the southern border,” Trump proclaimed, “I guess they better arm up and get guns and be ready, and maybe they’re going to have to start taking matters into their own hands".

If it wasn't for the word "maybe" in that statement I would say definitely the statement crosses the line. It takes a lawyer to factor in such nuance - similar to the use of "alleged" in statements. The statement is clearly repugnant. Is it also criminal? I'm torn on that.

[Jedi Guy]

31. That's actually no longer the test to determine whether or not speech is protected.

That phrase originates from a 1919 SCOTUS case (Schenk v. United States). It was supplanted by the so-called Brandenburg Test from the 1969 SCOTUS case Brandenburg v. Ohio. Proscribed speech as defined by that case is speech that is directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action, such as a riot. The speaker must intend to incite lawless action that is both imminent and likely.

I don't think her comments would fall foul of that test, and so it would be considered protected speech. It's shitty speech, to be sure, but it's protected under the First Amendment.

[IronLionZion]

26. Pro-life Republicans are promoting murder

because why? People crossing the border and walking across property don't deserve to live?

If border people see something, just call the border patrol or local law enforcement. Texans already have plenty of guns. Texas and California are where people live along the border. The border is mountainous in Arizona and New Mexico.

[elleng]

27. There SHOULD be repercussions.

'Sadly,' Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court interpreting the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[1] The Court held that the government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action".[2][3] 02 Specifically, the Court struck down Ohio's criminal syndicalism statute, because that statute broadly prohibited the mere advocacy of violence. In the process, Whitney v. California (1927)[4] was explicitly overruled, and doubt was cast on Schenck v. United States (1919),[5] Abrams v. United States (1919),[6] Gitlow v. New York (1925),[7] and Dennis v. United States (1951).[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

[70sEraVet]

29. If an individual's inflammatory speech cannot be punished,

can the company that gives that individual a public platform lose its broadcasting license? How about holding that individual and that company LIABLE the next time some Looney opens fire on a brown individual, who may or may NOT be an undocumented immigrant?

[Jedi Guy]

32. "...can the company that gives that individual a public platform lose its broadcasting license?"

No, because that would essentially negate the protection of the First Amendment. If it's protected speech, it's protected speech.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. Cuff and stuff. Indict, try, convict. Enough sedition. It has to be addressed. n/t

[Jedi Guy]

33. Alas, your authoritarian impulses are stymied by the First Amendment.

How is what she said "sedition"?

[Evolve Dammit]

37. calling for armed violence and taking the law into your own hands

[Jedi Guy]

38. That isn't sedition. N/T

[orangecrush]

30. Here we go again

Let's see if anything gets done.

[Jedi Guy]

34. What would you like to see done in this case? N/T

[orangecrush]

40. Not a lawyer

But if there are applicable laws concerning inciting violence, I would like to see them enforced.

[Jedi Guy]

41. I'm also not a lawyer, nor am I a constitutional scholar.

What she said wouldn't, in my opinion, fall into the exceptions to the First Amendment, which are very narrow. This is protected speech under the current interpretation of the amendment. She can (and should) be called out for having shitty opinions, but the government can't take legal action against her for what she said.

I know that some here on DU are frustrated that the First Amendment protects speech like this, in addition to "hate speech." All things considered, though, it's a good thing that we have freedom of expression, even if it gives shitweasels like the Trumps the opportunity to say reprehensible things.

[Rhiannon12866]

43. Here - this has gotten attention:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142755733#post42

[The Jungle 1]

36. She is saying her father is a failure.

Wait we already knew that.

[eringer]

39. The Sky is Falling.

I "guess"/"maybe" she makes me sick. Wait, No guessing or maybes -- she does make me sick.
Even the racists from the pervious generation that have now passed on wouldn't buy this BS.
As my grandfather use to say, "free schools , dumb children."

[Rhiannon12866]

42. Followup: Lara Trump Could Be In Serious Trouble For Comments Telling Border Residents To 'Arm Up'

During an appearance on Fox News this past weekend, Lara Trump, the wife of Eric, suggested that people living along the southern border needed to "arm up and get guns" in order to fight back against migrants crossing the border. In addition to this being incredibly irresponsible and dangerous rhetoric, experts also say that it could possibly lead to criminal charges for inciting violence. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains what's happening.

[orangecrush]

44. Thank you!