Unmasking the far right: An extremist paid a price when his identity was exposed online after a viol

[reACTIONary]

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Source: Washington Post

Jedeed yelled at the man to stop touching her. A crowd formed around her and another journalist, with unmasked men screaming at them from all directions. Jedeed kept her camera rolling, and when she got away from the crowd, she uploaded video of the incident to YouTube and Twitter, and it went viral.

Reaction was swift.

The man in the flag mask was quickly identified as Washington state resident Edward Jeremy Dawson by a local antifa group. Twitter users mining public records later released his address and phone number.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/doxing-far-right-violent-extremists/2021/06/20/35f730e2-ba68-11eb-a5fe-bb49dc89a248_story.html

[KG]

1. paywall warning

[Karma13612]

2. Yea

The above snipit is kinda confusing without background or more details.

[KG]

3. I just googled the shitheads name for more info.

https://www.newsweek.com/washington-councilwoman-video-crying-husband-fired-intimidating-journalist-million-maga-march-1549990

[Karma13612]

5. Good idea!!

I do it all the time when the NYT or WaPo break a story and I can’t access it due to the article limit paywall. Sometimes AP will have details.

[PatSeg]

16. I was just about to do the same thing

I have a NYT subscription, but not The Washington Post.

[Karma13612]

7. Oh I remember this!

This goes way back to last fall.

Doxxing isn’t cool but still,

That lady needs to realize her hubby is one bad dude and accept that his actions were the cause of his firing.

[plimsoll]

32. No, Doxing isn't cool,

But so much of the behavior we see is predicated on anonymity that making it fully public may be the only solution now. Shaming is not positive civil behavior, and yet witnessing shameful acts by anonymous actors has had two effects: it has emboldened the shameless, and convinced the rest of us that those groups act with the tacit approval law enforcement.

Another point to ponder is the rural/urban divide. Urban dwellers have had a great deal of anonymity for centuries, when internal checks on behavior break down in urban dwellers violence and chaos escalate quickly. In more rural communities the level of anonymity was always lower and acted as an external check on behavior. The fluid ability to move from rural to urban environs (economically and physically) may have left people who have always relied on external behavior checks without adequate internal restraints to operate in an urban setting.

[azureblue]

41. if his information was private

then I would call that doxxing. But it's not. It's all out there for anyone to find and repeat. This is the modern world - act as if a camera is on you all the time. These idiots think they can be anonymous and get away with intimidation - they are doing exactly what the Klan did. But now they can be exposed within minutes. And they should be. Too bad they didn't think of the consequences of their actions, but that is 100% on them. And oh how they whine when the consequences fall on their heads..

[2Gingersnaps]

13. His wife the Councilwoman said "it wasn't his finest hour????"

And is blaming doxxing for victimizing her? For God's sake the man is a common criminal. A street thug.

[Bev54]

40. If you go to Laura Jedeed's twitter feed

available online without being a member of twitter, most of it is there.

[RandiFan1290]

4. Here's Laura's video

[CurtEastPoint]

6. Jesus FC. This is NOT the American I grew up in and the country I USED TO BE proud of.

[Karma13612]

8. Jedeed is one brave

Reporter/journalist.

I get scared doing street photography if someone questions me taking a picture in their general direction!!!

[greenjar_01]

10. The courage in the face of these fascist street thugs is amazing

[Karma13612]

14. Pulitzer worthy. nt

[NJCher]

21. the key is her voice

While she says she's intimidated, in fact she has perfect control over her voice, so I don't think she really is intimidated. I think she used it as a point to highlight what cowards they are, ganging up on a woman.

I couldn't watch the whole thing, though. I watched all but the last 7". Let me tell you, that would be my idea of hell: having a crowd of bad breath surrounding me. Ugh, they have to be all Incels because they are so repulsive.

Major maturity problem with these characters.

[2Gingersnaps]

15. Um, how do these creeps think they are anything but criminals?

Bet there are some domestic violence issues back home.

[azureblue]

42. they don't

They think they are in some sort of movie or video game where they are the heroes and there is no slapback for there actions. No, really - I talked with one and they don't seem to think beyond the moment, and they are all lost up in their heads.

[PatSeg]

20. It reminds me of a zombie movie

Being surrounded by terrifyingly brainless people. Most of them can't speak an entire sentence without swearing and every word is an assault.

[sarchasm]

44. We ARE in a zombie movie...

...and Q is eating their brains.

[yesphan]

43. The projection from these

people is profound.

[efhmc]

18. Can"t you clear your cookies to get past it?

[marble falls]

9. Paywall make this pretty useless.

[NJCher]

22. at least enjoy this part

snip

Two days later, Dawson lost his job as an ironworker, his employer citing his actions in D.C. His wife, Michelle, uploaded a tearful self-shot video to Twitter announcing his firing, and later that month she was asked to hand in her vest and badge at a Walmart in Battle Ground, Wash., where she worked as an online-order fulfiller.

snip



it's just so sad.



jokes on you, jerks.

[NJCher]

24. I paraphrased this about their backgrounds:

Another point the article makes is about the backgrounds of the Dawsons (Dawson is the m guy with the gaitor getting in Laura's face).

Michelle Dawson won a seat on the city council in Yacolt running on gun rights. From Utah, she's a h.s. dropout. Never had interest in politics until Trump. Voted for the first time in 2020.

He has a similarly distinguished background, having dropped out of h.s. in the 11th grade.; got a job as an ironworker. Abused drugs and alcohol and became addicted to crystal meth. Arrested, six years in state prison.

[YoshidaYui]

25. This!

N/t

[reACTIONary]

28. If it weren't for the paywall....

... it wouldn't exist. And the "free" sites would have nothing to "report".

[marble falls]

31. And all I need to do is take out a subscription for one more paper for one article ...

If I wanted to post this, I might try googling the guys name. The first thing I'd get is this:



Then I'd take a look at the link attached, and then I'd get this ...

https://nitter.dark.fail/RoseCityAntifa/status/1328620639201095680

And that's just first 30 secs of searching.

How does WaPo survive by me ignoring it, when if they let me access an article I leave a footprint that WaPo can go to their advertisers and say look at my traffic count! Or they could allow three or four free articles, or they could 'sell' me an issue or even an article.

[TheRickles]

34. Agreed - it's such a short-sighted policy by WaPo (and others). Thanks for these links.

[marble falls]

37. This is one of my beefs, the other is OPs with only twitter link, and when you get to the page ...

... there's the link to an article. Just post the article and link to it.

I don't want news in 400 characters or less.

[irisblue]

36. have you tried using your incognito function?

[marble falls]

46. How do I? All my work arounds don't work with WaPo.

[samnsara]

11. the newsweek article tells of his wife being an elected official..

..my husband is an elected official and i am soooooo careful about what I say.

[Scrivener7]

12. I'm fine with him and his moron wife being doxxed.

A quote from the article: there's nothing wrong with being a white supremacist but "there's nothing more racist than saying black lives matter."

So there's that.

[EYESORE 9001]

17. Are there fresh revelations surrounding this incident?

Just wondering why it’s in LBN. Is there any information that is new?

[NJCher]

26. I think the angle of the story

is doxing.

There is interesting information about how activists are conducting classes in public records research and social media research to expose who these people are.

[EYESORE 9001]

27. OK. Thanks.

I just wondered if new information had come to light. I’m glad there are tools available for identifying these criminals. They must not be allowed to hide in anonymity.

[NJCher]

33. as a teacher

I was pleased to see a part-time college librarian was conducting such classes. It is gratifying to know we are putting such tools to work. Public records are generally free but you do have to know how to use them.

The article states "death threats" but that's not really the style of the left. It also points out doxxing is done by the right.

[reACTIONary]

29. It'a front page news in WaPo this morning...

... it's enterprise reporting. They follow up on an incident, doing interviews and background to put it into context and uncover the implications.

[PSPS]

39. DU is pretty lax about enforcing LBN policies

[Bernardo de La Paz]

45. The DU moderators depend on members sending alerts; "Violation of group's purpose", in this case

I have no idea if anyone alerted on this.

[marble falls]

47. LBN is a frustrating place to post. I'd say more, but.

[Snackshack]

19. It is amazing.

How a simple device on a phone has brought about an awareness to a country that no newspaper or show could have ever achieved.

[ancianita]

23. The article deals with the positive-negative outcomes of doxxing.

The doxing of Dawson highlights the effect the tactic can have — unemployment and personal upheaval followed by a new job that pays much less than his old one — but also the limits of the technique: Dawson is unrepentant for his role in galvanizing a mob to harass Jedeed and continues to espouse far-right views.

Indeed, some on the left, including Jedeed, who is a well-known activist in Portland, Ore., have qualms about the tactic and how effective it can be in the fight against extremism.
“From a practical perspective, I feel like being unemployable is going to push him in a more extreme direction,” Jedeed said. “On the other hand, you shouldn't be able to act like that and then have nothing happen to you.”

The tactic also has been employed by the far right to target not just their leftist opponents but also the families of mass shooting victims, who have been harassed by those claiming the attacks were fabricated.

Antifa activists say that hateful rhetoric is protected by the First Amendment but that that doesn’t mean those who advocate or use violence as part of their ideology shouldn’t be exposed, including to their employers. They argue that doxing is a nonviolent response to violence.

[reACTIONary]

30. While it did not changing this guys mind....

.... it has a positive effect on the marginal "lurkers" and "hangers-on". When they see this happening they drop out and stay away.

[marble falls]

48. Bad actions have bad consequences. This information is on the internets. Nobody is prying for it.

[BradBo]

35. Who was the other gal to his left?

[dalton99a]

38. Best way to avoid bad publicity: Don't act like an asshole in public.

[JudyM]

49. Locking

The consensus of forum hosts, after receiving an alert on this OP, is that this article doesn’t meet the LBN forum standard of important breaking news.

Ok to repost it in the GD forum if you’d like.