Indiana woman gets probation in first Capitol riot sentencing
Source: NBC News
A 49-year-old woman from Indiana who came to Washington with her hairdresser friend was put on probation Wednesday in the first sentence stemming from the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.
With the number of people arrested approaching 500, it was the first of what government officials said would likely be similar proceedings for the hundreds of people who also face low-level charges.
Anna Morgan-Lloyd pleaded guilty to a single charge of illegally demonstrating in the Capitol building. In return, the government dropped three other charges, all of them misdemeanors. She was sentenced in federal court in Washington, D.C., to three years of probation and ordered to perform 40 hours of community service and pay $500 in restitution.
“I would just like to apologize to the court, the American people, and my family,” she said in brief remarks to Judge Royce Lamberth. “I went there to show support for President Trump peacefully, and I’m ashamed that it became a savage display of violence.”
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/indiana-woman-gets-probation-first-capitol-riot-sentencing-n1272156
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PatSeg
(53,206 posts)They won't all get probation.
bottomofthehill
(9,385 posts)an insult to those who were injured or killed that day, an insult to those who are still suffering from ptsd from that day. This is total bullshit.
Lasher
(29,567 posts)https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/23/us-capitol-riot-sentencing-anna-morgan-lloyd
Maybe they should have sought more, I don't know.
bottomofthehill
(9,385 posts)But for the life of me I do not understand why every person who was inside the building that day was not charged with this. It is clearly what they did and it is a felony.
See bold below
(a) Any violation of § 10-503.16(a), and any attempt to commit any such violation, shall be a felony punishable by a fine not exceeding $5,000, or imprisonment not exceeding 5 years, or both.
10–503.16. Unlawful conduct.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person or group of persons:
(1) Except as authorized by regulations which shall be promulgated by the Capitol Police Board:
(A) To carry on or have readily accessible to the person of any individual upon the United States Capitol Grounds or within any of the Capitol Buildings any firearm, dangerous weapon, explosive, or incendiary device; or
(B) To discharge any firearm or explosive, to use any dangerous weapon, or to ignite any incendiary device, upon the United States Capitol Grounds or within any of the Capitol Buildings; or
(C) To transport by any means upon the United States Capitol Grounds or within any of the Capitol Buildings any explosive or incendiary device; or
(2) Knowingly, with force and violence, to enter or to remain upon the floor of either House of the Congress.
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person or group of persons willfully and knowingly:
(1) To enter or to remain upon the floor of either House of the Congress, to enter or to remain in any cloakroom or lobby adjacent to such floor, or to enter or to remain in the Rayburn Room of the House or the Marble Room of the Senate, unless such person is authorized, pursuant to rules adopted by that House or pursuant to authorization given by that House, to enter or to remain upon such floor or in such cloakroom, lobby, or room;
(2) To enter or to remain in the gallery of either House of the Congress in violation of rules governing admission to such gallery adopted by that House or pursuant to authorization given by that House;
(3) To enter or to remain in any room within any of the Capitol Buildings set aside or designated for the use of either House of the Congress or any member, committee, subcommittee, officer, or employee of the Congress or either House thereof with intent to disrupt the orderly conduct of official business;
(4) To utter loud, threatening, or abusive language, or to engage in any disorderly or disruptive conduct, at any place upon the United States Capitol Grounds or within any of the Capitol Buildings with intent to impede, disrupt, or disturb the orderly conduct of any session of the Congress or either House thereof, or the orderly conduct within any such building of any hearing before, or any deliberations of, any committee or subcommittee of the Congress or either House thereof;
(5) To obstruct, or to impede passage through or within, the United States Capitol Grounds or any of the Capitol Buildings;
(6) To engage in any act of physical violence upon the United States Capitol Grounds or within any of the Capitol Buildings; or
(7) To parade, demonstrate, or picket within any of the Capitol Buildings.
(c) Nothing contained in this section shall forbid any act of any member of the Congress, or any employee of a member of the Congress, any officer or employee of the Congress or any committee or subcommittee thereof, or any officer or employee of either House of the Congress or any committee or subcommittee thereof, which is performed in the lawful discharge of his official duties.
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)that they will be taken care of if they help go after the bigger fish.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/captiol-riot-first-sentence/2021/06/23/8b2825d8-d39c-11eb-ae54-515e2f63d37d_story.html
Orrex
(67,089 posts)More reasonable, I admit, than my own initial reaction of seething disgust.
Lucky Luciano
(11,860 posts)pnwmom
(110,255 posts)No one here has any idea what information she provided them with.
But we KNOW that some of these cooperators will be able to provide key information, and we want to encourage them to do so, right? Knowing that a prosecutor's sentencing recommendation carries weight with a judge will help.
Lucky Luciano
(11,860 posts)pnwmom
(110,255 posts)
DVRacer
(734 posts)Would you have wanted those that ultimately were removed from the Kavanugh confirmation hearings slapped with felonies? I see Mitch chomping at the bit to use that going forward for any disruption.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)what most of the lower level defendants will get, given that they’re plea-ing out and, for most, this is a first offense. The ones who assaulted cops will get a much more substantial sentence.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Arrested, so she did get a little taste of prison. Probably the most we can expect for many of the misdemeanor people. I think the government had a five factor test in their sentencing memorandum for determining the appropriate sentence. In her case all factors were in her favor, including complete cooperation with authorities when initially confronted. It will be interesting to see if all of the people charged with misdemeanors do as well.
turbinetree
(27,488 posts)what is going to do for the "Community" rake fucking leaves in a park....
Traildogbob
(13,010 posts)Now before fire season. In 120 degree temps.
Clean Trumps toilet for 80 mornings. 1/2 hour each should work.
turbinetree
(27,488 posts)and then give her a rake for the leaves...
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)This will hopefully encourage other people to flip.
turbinetree
(27,488 posts)vote and our Constitution was under siege...
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)as an early cooperator, and this low sentence was her reward for valuable information.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/captiol-riot-first-sentence/2021/06/23/8b2825d8-d39c-11eb-ae54-515e2f63d37d_story.html
These meetings with non-violent people will help them build cases against other, more serious offenders -- just like with a mob prosecution.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)She didn't give any info because she did not need to. This is a probation offense for those with no criminal history.
Mysterian
(6,459 posts)Sickening.
marble falls
(71,884 posts)pnwmom
(110,255 posts)marble falls
(71,884 posts)... her delirium?
“I would just like to apologize to the court, the American people, and my family,” she said in brief remarks to Judge Royce Lamberth. “I went there to show support for President Trump peacefully, and I’m ashamed that it became a savage display of violence.”
Poor child was entrapped. Horse patootey. At best, she's apologizing for whoever it was who made a savage display of violence.
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)to non-violent people who offer useful cooperation.
If he'd thrown the book at her, that could have discouraged potential additional cooperators.
Vinca
(53,953 posts)and dangerous types who would have strung up Pence in a nanosecond. I'm more interested to see what happens to someone like the Oathkeeper guy who cut a deal today to get all but a couple of charges dropped in return for info. His charges seemed more serious than this idiot woman's. He definitely needs to do some time.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)To prosecute other defendants. She was so low level she didn't know anything. She did cooperate fully when she was initially confronted by the FBI.
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)her cooperation as a factor in her sentencing.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:43 AM - Edit history (1)
And by handing over her cell phone to the FBI. She attended the insurrectiion with one friend. She stayed in the Capitol for 10 minutes. Had she cooperated further it would have been mentioned at her sentencing.
You don't cooperate and then hide your cooperation from the judge. The judge was not obligated to follow the recommendation of the government. He could have given her jail time. You want the judge to know everything that you have done right.
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)She wrote this several days before the sentencing.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2021/06/18/the-model-maga-tourist-anna-morgan-lloyd-and-evidence-collection/
COOPERATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
Finally, the government motion and Morgan-Lloyd’s statement describe the import of cooperation with law enforcement. In the government’s description, they noted she allowed her phone to be imaged and analyzed.
Third, one important aspect of promoting respect for the law is encouraging cooperation and truthfulness with law enforcement. Here, following her arrest, the Defendant fully cooperated with law enforcement and admitted to the full scope of her actions. In addition to waiving her rights and agreeing to be interviewed by law enforcement, she also allowed her mobile phone to be downloaded for substantive analysis.
Morgan-Lloyds statement described how she freely let the FBI get the contents of her phone.
I openly and honestly told them everything I could recall from that day. I gave them my phone freely to download what they needed. My phone was not locked so they didn’t need a password to get in. If it had a password I would have willingly provided it.
I have described how, especially more recently, the government seems to have been prioritizing the misdemeanor arrests of those who might have important evidentiary videos on their phone. Morgan-Lloyd describes seeing what may be the East Doors get opened from inside.
I saw the side doors being opened from the inside and assumed the door closest to me were also open because people who worked in the Capital Building walked past us. They didn’t look nervous or scared.
If she did see those East Doors open, and especially if she has some kind of video evidence, it may prove important to figure out who precisely initiated that and whether it was premeditated and coordinated with those outside the building (as seems likely).
When I first noted that the government seemed to be arresting those from whom they expected to get key evidence, I imagined that those people, especially, would get favorable terms for sentencing. The emphasis here on sharing her phone contents seems to accord with that.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)The judge at her sentencing hearing. It would have been malpractice not to do so.
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)She answered all their questions to the best of her ability and let them see whatever was on her phone. And we can have no idea what pieces of information she had and how they might have been useful to the prosecution.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)pnwmom
(110,255 posts)with further prosecutions.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)She apparently has a following here. She engaged in some speculation and her speculation was wrong. If you sent her an email I suspect she would admit as much. The woman got a deal not because she provided some secret information but because she was a shlub.
Any US Attorney who failed to inform the defense attorney and the sentencing judge with the fact that the defendant, even inadvertently, had provided information that was useful in further prosecutions would not be destined for a long career. It would probably be the basis for a habeas claim. It isn't that there were no stakes at the sentencing hearing. Three years probation is a long term for a 6 month misdemeanor charge. The defense was arguing for much less.
I write about this at some length because I don't think the case should be subject to conspiracy theories any more than should the 2020 election.
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Prove me wrong.
Actually the reason I know is because no one mentioned it at the sentencing hearing. There was no pre sentence investigation report. The judge only received information about the defendant at the sentencing hearing.
If the government thought her cooperation for some indecipherable reason had to be kept secret her sentencing would have been postponed until it could be revealed.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)He apparently called a Republican congressman by name for spreading lies about 1/6.
Fullduplexxx
(8,626 posts)Scalded Nun
(1,687 posts)Plead guilty to unlawful parading? What bullshit! Take every one of these Trump ass-licking insurrectionist pieces of shit, charge them with insurrection, and lock them up for 10-20 years. They were in the Capitol to overthrow this country's government AND to commit the murder of elected and other public officials. I guess their 'Whiteness' is really paying off.
Tiger8
(432 posts)Every MAGAt who went to the Capital on 1/6 was there to overthrow democracy.
At minimum, should be a long prison sentence, permanent no fly list, no guns, no passport - and be forced to register similar to sex offenders.
Evolve Dammit
(21,766 posts)
NBachers
(19,424 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)I don't like the idea of locking up people for protesting if they didn't attack anyone.
The fine is too low though.
She wasn't there trying to stop people from breaking sh*t.
bottomofthehill
(9,385 posts)Fuck her, she should have been charged with a felony and seen some jail time
bottomofthehill
(9,385 posts)(4) To utter loud, threatening, or abusive language, or to engage in any disorderly or disruptive conduct, at any place upon the United States Capitol Grounds or within any of the Capitol Buildings with intent to impede, disrupt, or disturb the orderly conduct of any session of the Congress or either House thereof, or the orderly conduct within any such building of any hearing before, or any deliberations of, any committee or subcommittee of the Congress or either House thereof;
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)cooperation in going after the more serious criminals.
bottomofthehill
(9,385 posts)She was in the building, she should have been tagged with a felony
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)And she handed over her phone. The phone, along with what she could remember, could have given them important info, since she was at the door when it was first breached.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215556151
bottomofthehill
(9,385 posts)Making her one of the worst offenders. She had to fight her way through police lines to be there first. She is a shitbag insurrectionist. She broke into the US Capitol as part of an armed insurrection. If not armed herself, she created cover for those who did making her no less guilty and she clearly meets the standard, there is no less than 10 minute exemption after being part of the crowd that was there first.
pnwmom
(110,255 posts)could yield valuable evidence.
This will be like a mob prosecution. She was an underling, and they flipped her to help get to someone higher up the food chain.
reACTIONary
(7,159 posts)... They would have to prove intent to impede, rather than mere physical presence. Might not be that easy. Could be they got the best they could with the least effort.
bottomofthehill
(9,385 posts)Was in the building, the House and Senate were recessed. Conditions met.
reACTIONary
(7,159 posts)... a bit more than that is required in a court of law.
The prosecution is more knowledgeable of the law and the facts and is in a better position to make a determination than either you or me.
bottomofthehill
(9,385 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 24, 2021, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)
She came with the intent to stop the steal, the proceedings were stopped, she entered the building which is what caused the house and senate to recess seems like the elements were met to me. Easier to hit her with a book report, a 500 dollar fine and a thank you for your cooperation.
reACTIONary
(7,159 posts)....... I don't think a bare assertion like that would stand up in a court of law.
And, over all, for the sake of justice in general, I think that's a good thing.
Wednesdays
(22,549 posts)at the Capitol and fined for "illegal demonstration activity."
Gee, I wonder what the difference was? Anyone have any ideas?
orleans
(36,896 posts)dalton99a
(94,093 posts)“Some of my defendants in my other cases think there’s no consequence to this. There is a consequence. And it bothers me," Lamberth said. "I don’t want to create the perception here that probation is the automatic sentence, because it’s not going to be. I’m especially troubled by members of Congress who said that day was just another walk through the Capitol. I don’t know what planet they were on, but there were millions of people who watched coverage of January 6 and saw what you saw, which was a disgrace to our country.”
Lamberth also gave Morgan-Lloyd a warning he says he gives all defendants granted probation.
"Probation comes once in a lifetime," Lamberth said. "And this is your once. I say to you, if I get a report of a violation, you come with your bags packed. It’s not whether or not you’re going, it’s how long you’re going to jail."
iemanja
(57,751 posts)Mark my words, more sedition will follow.
Warpy
(114,593 posts)who got caught up in the hysteria and stupidity but were basically doing it for a lark.
She got off a little easier than I'd have let her, I'd have assessed higher restitution and more community service. I sincerely hope court costs are part of this.
However, no one would be served by putting the hangers on in jail.
Lucky Luciano
(11,860 posts)This must never occur again
Warpy
(114,593 posts)I remember how people got caught up in bullshit in the 60s and early 70a. They weren't terrible people, just suggestible. When it became obvious they weren't going to be leading a glorious anticapitalist revolution, most of them became boring and productive. Ruining their lives with long prison sentences wouldn't have worked in any sense of the word. It was bad enough ruining the lives of people who got busted with a joint or two.
These people already know they're on the wrong side because support across the country for their bullshit just isn't there. Giving them a near miss with probation and fines will work a lot better than making examples of the merely gullible.
Save prison for the ones who are dangerous, plus their funders and enablers. I will be thrilled to see Ginni Thomas get nailed for chartering the buses they rode in on, Brooks, Gosar and McCarthy for enabling the whole thing on the inside, and anyone else they can catch up to. I would love to see Dumdum in an orange jumpsuit over inciting the whole thing, but that's not going to happen. Seeing Cruz and Hawley sweat might happen. I hope so.
But boobs who just went along with the crowd? Nah. Give them a near miss and let them know they're damned fools. It will work a lot better than overreacting.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,374 posts)in a public square somewhere.
And all her electronics should have governors on them forever to throttle the Internet down to 14,400 baud.
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)Unless they're stubborn & uncooperative.
Although they SHOULD still have a record.
Richard D
(10,018 posts). . . it's really no fun at all. I think this is good for the low-level participants giving information about the higher-level criminals
jcmaine72
(1,843 posts)Starting with their orange messiah.
WarGamer
(18,600 posts)15% minimal punishment and 5% actual Prison time for the assholes who assaulted cops and broke shit.
Dan
(5,155 posts)
Rhiannon12866
(255,159 posts)A woman from Indiana has become the first person sentenced in connection with the Trump-incited Capitol Hill insurrection on January 6. MSNBC's Brian Williams has details. Aired on 06/23/2021.