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Jilly_in_VA

(14,371 posts)
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 12:42 PM Jun 2021

A caravan of Trump backers tried to run a Biden bus off a road. Now they're being sued under an anti

Last edited Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post

Timothy Holloway clutched the wheel of a Biden-Harris campaign bus last October, swerving and dodging as one hostile car bearing a Trump flag after another tried to run him off a Texas highway.

“We were terrified,” Holloway said in a news release. “They were clearly trying to scare us and prevent us from arriving at our destination in peace.”

The tactic worked — the Biden campaign canceled the rest of the day’s events, saying it feared for the safety of campaign staffers, supporters and local political candidates. Some prominent Republicans cheered the effort by the self-proclaimed “Trump Train,” while President Donald Trump himself lauded their efforts, calling the drivers “patriots” who “did nothing wrong.”

Now, Holloway — along with a White House staffer, a former Texas lawmaker and a campaign volunteer — are suing several members of the caravan, accusing them of violating the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, which bars violent election intimidation, as well as local Texas laws. The group is also suing local law enforcement, claiming they failed to provide protection.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/25/biden-campaign-bus-lawsuit-trump-train/



About time this happened! This was some scary stuff!
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A caravan of Trump backers tried to run a Biden bus off a road. Now they're being sued under an anti (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jun 2021 OP
Let the Fascists auto insurance cover the costs of the law suit,.... magicarpet Jun 2021 #1
they won't have them truck's .lawyers will seize them as payment!! monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #20
Ordinarily, Auto liability coverage soldierant Jun 2021 #27
Right. Now if they had an umbrella policy Captain Zero Jun 2021 #34
Umbrella coverage is an extension of the coverage soldierant Jun 2021 #36
And where was the highway patrol, the sheriff's dept., and the local police Because this shit went.. Botany Jun 2021 #2
another story pro-Trump cars and trucks surrounded the bus on Interstate 35 and looked to be tr Trueblue1968 Jun 2021 #14
There are multiple lawsuits, among them of the San Marcos city marshall and SMPD. summer_in_TX Jun 2021 #18
Don't why why they were thinking Texas law enforcement would help keep them safe. Aristus Jun 2021 #3
They were due for an event near me, and I was appalled catrose Jun 2021 #4
I'm curious how the thugs got identified if no law enforcement helped. ancianita Jun 2021 #5
I imagine the license plates on the Trump Train vehicles and photos identified them. SunSeeker Jun 2021 #11
Thanks. I should have thought of that, but it's been a while. ancianita Jun 2021 #12
Oh hell, they all posted video of themselves doing it. hamsterjill Jun 2021 #17
Thank you for the background story. ancianita Jun 2021 #19
You're welcome, and you're right. hamsterjill Jun 2021 #25
... Major Nikon Jun 2021 #6
Good! Lulu KC Jun 2021 #7
Every single incidence of intimidation and harassment by Trumpists should be taken to court. Martin68 Jun 2021 #8
Does law exist for these pendejos in the Deep South Hulk Jun 2021 #9
Good. Hope they win big $. What happened to them was criminal. nt SunSeeker Jun 2021 #10
Remember the OTHER Caravan? Icono Classless Jerk Jun 2021 #13
"The tactic worked.." but the Psycho LOST. Cha Jun 2021 #15
Here is the court filing. Can't find a good first page photo, sorry. ancianita Jun 2021 #16
That is one heckuva great Original Petition! hamsterjill Jun 2021 #26
Right? ancianita Jun 2021 #35
Rube Road-Rage. And, you will not deny it, rubes. czarjak Jun 2021 #21
It's about time. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2021 #22
The KKKonvoy Blue Owl Jun 2021 #23
Clips from the videos were televised. That's how I first saw it. I'm sure by now they thought they napi21 Jun 2021 #24
Wait a minute, they should be arrested. Those un-American pos are terrorist. rockfordfile Jun 2021 #28
The ONLY thing they would respect would be a gun in their face and Yosemite Sam BACK OFF voice TigressDem Jun 2021 #29
Post removed Post removed Jun 2021 #30
Welcome to DU Hekate Jun 2021 #31
I love MIRT. Such speedy delivery. Hekate Jun 2021 #32
About time indeed. Snackshack Jun 2021 #33
K&R ck4829 Jun 2021 #37
CCCP Coup Clutz Clan Publicans godfree2 Jun 2021 #38

magicarpet

(18,515 posts)
1. Let the Fascists auto insurance cover the costs of the law suit,....
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 12:48 PM
Jun 2021

.... then let the drivers insurance rate sky rocket.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
34. Right. Now if they had an umbrella policy
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jun 2021

For liability. Maybe that would cover it. But probably only up to a million $$.

They are going to have lawyers retainer fees u front too. So that's going to delay a few truck payments.

Sucks to be a Klan Fascist.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
36. Umbrella coverage is an extension of the coverage
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 04:10 PM
Jun 2021

from a Homeowners (or Renters) policy., and from an auto policy.

It doesn't cover criminal charges. It doesn't cover punitive damages of penalties. For any occurrennce it does cover, the company goes to court with its own attornies. It doesn't cover any injury which "might reasonably have been expected" unless the injury occurred in the defense of the insured's person or property.

There are other exclusions. Propert and Casualty policies are pretty standard, though there are some small differences from company to company. But the bottom line is, no company is going to want to cover someone for intentionally doing something stupid. If it isn't expressly excluded and the company is stuck, increased rates are the least of it. The policy is more likely to be cancelled or non-remewed ... and good luck getting another one.

Botany

(77,324 posts)
2. And where was the highway patrol, the sheriff's dept., and the local police Because this shit went..
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jun 2021

... on for miles and over an extended period of time too. They should sue their asses too.

I wish the bus had run them over but no doubt these "patriots" had guns too.
Trump and company, Fox News, and hate talk radio/tv/internet sites, and right
wing racist terrorists have so toxified so many brains they do not know right from
wrong.

Trueblue1968

(19,251 posts)
14. another story pro-Trump cars and trucks surrounded the bus on Interstate 35 and looked to be tr
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 03:01 PM
Jun 2021
https://www.scarymommy.com/texas-trump-supporters-harras-biden-bus/


The pro-Trump cars and trucks surrounded the bus on Interstate 35 and looked to be trying to slow it down and force it to the side of the road, according to witnesses. In one instance, the vehicles pulled in front of the bus and tried to stop in the middle of the highway. Another side swiped a car being driven by a campaign staffer.

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
18. There are multiple lawsuits, among them of the San Marcos city marshall and SMPD.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 08:34 PM
Jun 2021

They were notified in advance about safety concerns and apparently told a former San Marcos city councilwoman that they'd be there. Then she was on the bus and the Trump Train tried to do their stuff in San Antonio but law enforcement there prevented it. But they lost jurisdiction once the bus left Bexar county.

When the Trump Train started harassing them in Comal County, she called for law enforcement in Hays County and they didn't come. A campaign event at Texas State University in San Marcos was one of those cancelled over safety concerns.

This is a big deal. This article may be easier to read than the Texas Civil Rights Project press release link below.

Wendy Davis, others sue law enforcement and Trump supporters over “Trump Train” harassing Biden bus in Texas

The plaintiffs argue the Trump supporters engaged in political intimidation when they surrounded the Biden campaign bus in October, in violation of the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, and that police "turned a blind eye to the attack."

Aristus

(72,188 posts)
3. Don't why why they were thinking Texas law enforcement would help keep them safe.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jun 2021

A bunch of beer-bellied Deputy Dawg types would be hard put to keep anyone safe. And I don't imagine that's going to improve in a state with a no-license gun law going into effect...

catrose

(5,365 posts)
4. They were due for an event near me, and I was appalled
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jun 2021

Not only that it happened, but the reaction afterwards of the Rs. I love this and will throw money at them if requested.

I'm glad they've got names.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
5. I'm curious how the thugs got identified if no law enforcement helped.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jun 2021

I'm guessing they got photos, but it would still be good to know.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
11. I imagine the license plates on the Trump Train vehicles and photos identified them.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jun 2021

They certainly got close enough for the Biden folks to see them.

And some of the Trumpers bragged about the assault on social media, even posting video/pictures of themselves committing the assault. Much like the 1/6 insurrectionists.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
17. Oh hell, they all posted video of themselves doing it.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:32 PM
Jun 2021

Two of the defendants, Eliazar Cisneros and Hannah Ceh, put video everywhere on social media.

Cisneros is already known to have tried to run some protestors over in Alamo Plaza prior to harassing the Biden bus. He brags that he’s friends with all of the cops because he barbecues for them, and to date at least, I’ve not seen anything happen to him.

Ceh is the daughter of Steven Ceh who is the idiot who has caused a bunch of trouble in New Braunfels, which is the city where the bus was near when the altercations happened.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
19. Thank you for the background story.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 09:21 PM
Jun 2021

These are not just America's not-best people, they are some uncivilized vigilantes whose group assault was likely their way of partying. Their social media pride is meanness meant to validate cult loyalty as they drive out campaigns of 'liberal' insurgents. They'll only feel martyred by 'commie' courts. They are followers of a Might Makes The Right thugocracy.


hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
25. You're welcome, and you're right.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jun 2021

The Ceh family isn’t even from Texas. They moved to New Braunfels about three years ago and have been trying to take over. I think the dad (Steven) is trying to run for mayor. Most of the locals can’t stand them.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
8. Every single incidence of intimidation and harassment by Trumpists should be taken to court.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:02 PM
Jun 2021

Wingnuts need two learn that there are negative consequences for such behavior.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
9. Does law exist for these pendejos in the Deep South
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jun 2021

After hearing the results of the first insurrectionist trial...I have very little faith in our justice system...and even less in Texas.

 
13. Remember the OTHER Caravan?
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jun 2021

You know, the one coming up from Central America to lay waste to our Noble Caucasian Women & Children?

Ptuh, at least back then (less than a decade ago!), a majority of the country could agree it was a Fascist Fantasy story!

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
26. That is one heckuva great Original Petition!
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 11:48 PM
Jun 2021

They’ve got pictures and screen shots of all of the texts, etc.

And not one lawyer from Texas on the legal team!!! Love it!

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
35. Right?
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jun 2021

Depends on factual evidence presentation arguments, and the judge, even if officially it's about 'the law and the facts.' They should win. But hey, it's Texas, where governors have rick perry brains, and where AG's sue other states even as they float secession.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
24. Clips from the videos were televised. That's how I first saw it. I'm sure by now they thought they
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 11:10 PM
Jun 2021

got away with it too. I bet they're shocked as they find out they're being sued! I hope it goes to court & the trial gets televised. I'd sure spend my time watching!!! I hope they all, each one individually, have to pay a big penalty. Would sure put a big smile on my face!

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
29. The ONLY thing they would respect would be a gun in their face and Yosemite Sam BACK OFF voice
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 02:50 AM
Jun 2021

BUT if DEMS DID that, we would be wrong, because only the "good guys" get to wave guns around and terrorize people.

If you "fight back" you are violent.


It's all violent, of course.


BUT IF WE ACTED LIKE THEM, they would shit themselves.


Response to TigressDem (Reply #29)

Snackshack

(2,587 posts)
33. About time indeed.
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jun 2021

I remember seeing that on the news that day. The big 4x4 trucks with the trump flags and other vehicles ringed around the Biden bus while it was traveling down the highway. I remember wondering why the fuck Highway Patrol was not pulling the vehicles over.

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