Vaccinated mom who contracted COVID-19 warns people to take virus seriously

[pstokely]

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Source: KSHB

Gill said she recieved the Pfizer vaccine in March. Her daughter is too young to get vaccinated.

Along with her husband, Gill said they followed the rules from health officials, including wearing mask and social distancing. However, as coronavirus restrictions were lifted, Gill eased up on precautions.

“I was getting lax in how I was wearing my mask. I was getting lax in how many people I was around and I really stopped necessarily the six feet apart."

Then, Gill got the virus and said she believes she passed it to her daughter.

Read more: https://www.kshb.com/news/coronavirus/vaccinated-mom-who-contracted-covid-19-warns-people-to-take-virus-seriously

[Skittles]

1. continued masking should be a no-brainer

the CDC really dropped the ball on that one

[Withywindle]

2. From what I'm gathering from all the conflicting information

Vaccines are really good at reducing your chances of catching it dramatically. You still ~might~ catch it, but your chance of a serious life-threatening case are much less (still not zero). But if you happen to catch it, you can still be a danger to an unvaccinated person because even if you don't even know you have it, you might be carrying enough virus to pass it on.

Also, why isn't it available to children yet? I really don't think schools should open fully in person until it's available to children, and only vaccinated children should be allowed to take full in-person daily classes. (This isn't extreme. I was vaccinated for polio and measles and mumps and rubella before I was allowed to attend public school in the early 70s. This was normal at the time and parents welcomed it because they remembered people who had died or been permanently maimed by those diseases and they WANTED to make sure I was protected from that horror and totally supported protecting other children too)

[ananda]

3. Everyone was vaxxed against polio as soon as it came up.

We were lined up at school, given the shot,
and that was that.

[wnylib]

4. I started school before there were

vaccines for measles, mumps, and chicken pox. But there were vaccines that we were required to get in order to attend school. I only remember two of them, diptheria and smallpox. Later, when the polio vaccine was available, we got that, too. Maybe I was just too young to notice, but I don't remember people refusing or resisting.

[luvtheGWN]

13. Parents were desperate to get their children vaccinated

against polio. Newspaper photos of rows and rows of iron lungs were enough to scare everyone.

[wnylib]

5. It's not available to children under 12 because

it is still in the testing phase for them. Their immune systems are not the same as adults. Their reactions might be different. The doses need to be established. So young children will not be eligible until it is established that the vaccines are safe for them and what dose levels are safe and effective at various ages.

[Skittles]

6. I traveled back and forth overseas as a GI brat

I could not even count the number of shots I had to get. These vaccine holdouts now are a bunch of wienies. I just saw an ad that had Clinton, Dubya, Obama, Carter and their wives, advising people get vaccinated. The glaring omission is Trump, who could probably get a lot of those holdouts to get vaccinated but he won't do it. What a vile POS he continues to be. And his fucked-up supporters, there is no honor there so no, they are NOT masking. It is insane!

[pazzyanne]

10. Same!

My mom had her kids first in line for vaccinations in our little town. She also had her family in quarantine until we were vaccinated. She used the "bubble" long before the term was used to describe what she did.

[djm5971]

9. the problem is...

GOP'ers have no brains.

[janterry]

7. I think most of us will be exposed, over time

I still wear a mask when I'm in enclosed spaces and I did get the vaccination. So did my daughter. But given the mutations......

I'm not an epidemiologist, of course - and even if I were - none of us know for sure

but I suspect that over the next five years (or more) most of us will have a significant exposure to covid. I hope that isn't true - but mostly I am bracing myself for that.

[Jarqui]

8. Israel found a problem with Pfizer

Pfizer concurred.

It's a combination of things.

Pfizer "wanes" over time - according to Pfizer.

Delta is more aggressive and contagious.

Israelis who were fully vaccinated in Jan & Feb caught Delta

None of them died.

The vaccine is not as effective over time against delta but it still helps significantly.

Pfizer, like Moderna, is working on a booster.

We're in uncharted waters.

Err on the side of caution.

Delta is likely to ravage through the unvaccinated states. It may not kill as many but they are seeing 'long' covid (sick for more than 12 weeks) in the UK from delta.

Be smart. Be patient. Take care of yourselves.

I'm not sure these are the best articles but they'll substantiate some of what I'm saying. I'm busy for work. Don't have time to retrace my links.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-ask-fda-authorize-booster-dose-covid-vaccine-delta-variant-spreads-2021-07-08/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/health/pfizer-waning-immunity-bn/index.html

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/06/nation/israeli-officials-say-pfizer-vaccine-less-effective-delta-variant-spreads/

[NNadir]

11. It is really, really, really dangerous to elevate anecdotal accounts over serious statistical data.

This post amounts to a report of a seriously injured survivor of an automobile crash announcing that cars are "too dangerous."

According to a news item in the British Journal of Medicine as of April 2021, of 77 million Americans who have been vaccinated, 5800 have had breakthrough infections.

Covid-19: US reports low rate of new infections in people already vaccinated

This is a rate of 0.0075%.

The News media continues to prove that you cannot get a degree in journalism if you have passed a college level science course with a grade of C or better.

[pstokely]

12. why are they issuing advisories for the fully vaxxed to keep masks on?

the CDC took a lot of teeth away

[NNadir]

14. Who is "they?"

I make a point of getting my information from the primary scientific literature, and even when doing so I do not suspend critical thinking.

Almost all of the major scientific publications have made Covid related papers open sourced.

Scientific articles almost always includes references, rather than vague evocations of "they."

While recent reports do suggest that the majority of breakthrough cases are represented by variants, they are still decidedly rare.

The design of the RNA vaccines, which is extremely elegant, now that the lipid infrastructure has been built, will assuredly allow for rapid adjustments to address variants of concern.

Variants arise of course largely in unvaccinated people, and given that the elevation of antivaxxers by the media increases the fraction of the general public that embraces stupidity it is unhealthy to denigrate the value of vaccinations.

[pstokely]

15. St Louis and LA have issued maks advisories

but it seems like even health officials in blue cities feel like they're talking to spoiled toddlers

[pstokely]

16. are you going maskless in public?

places where kids might be

[NH Ethylene]

17. Breakthrough data from April is way out of date.

I don't have time to look for better links, but even this thread is illustrative:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1049&pid=6417

[JudyM]

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