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pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 07:50 PM Jul 2021

Britney Spears Can Choose Her Own Lawyer In Conservatorship Case, A Judge Has Ruled

Source: NPR

A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has allowed Britney Spears to hire her own lawyer. Matthew S. Rosengart, a prominent Hollywood lawyer and former federal prosecutor, has been approved as Spears' choice to take up the case.

Spears, who joined the hearing by phone, also told the Los Angeles court that she wants her father charged with conservatorship abuse.

After Spears' blistering public comments about the conservatorship last month, various parties in Britney Spears' orbit started making some legal moves: Bessemer Trust, the wealth management company that had signed on to be co-conservator of Spears' estate, asked to resign. Her longtime court-appointed lawyer Samuel D. Ingham III also requested to resign, asking the court to appoint someone else in his place. Spears' mother, Lynne Spears, as well as Jodi Montgomery, the conservator of her personal life, have also initiated different routes for Britney Spears to choose her own legal representation.

There are a lot of moving parts to the case. If you want to know more, here's a quick rundown on who's involved.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/14/1015949197/britney-spears-conservatorship-case-live-updates?fbclid=IwAR0RXjkypfDk3WYjB99YekY3uVVd_LuyB2pgVhKd9eA1fz5sJcr_H3vs7h4



Why do I care about Britney Spears? Because she's a human being who's had her civil rights removed because a bunch of people think they can make more money from her this way.

And because she's not the only case like this -- though most of them are elderly, single people who have managed to keep some assets. A few years ago there was a major scandal in NV about conservators who, with the connivance of a crooked judge, were able to wrest guardianships away from the adult children of people with much smaller estates than Britney has.
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Britney Spears Can Choose Her Own Lawyer In Conservatorship Case, A Judge Has Ruled (Original Post) pnwmom Jul 2021 OP
Thanks Hekate Jul 2021 #1
I think it's fine she has her own lawyer jimfields33 Jul 2021 #8
Her father has been using her for money questionseverything Jul 2021 #13
Heard she has annual income ? Of $18mm. Why not just Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #20
I have to agree with you regarding her civil rights... FarPoint Jul 2021 #2
She's competent enough to earn them multimillions every year, but not competent pnwmom Jul 2021 #5
Another child would be another heir, and Daddy wouldn't want that. tblue37 Jul 2021 #7
He is all about the control and money.... FarPoint Jul 2021 #9
Exactly. We all fail and we all goof up. But if you're rich, then you have to be prevented pnwmom Jul 2021 #27
Exactly. This is so sexist and exploitative. I spooky3 Jul 2021 #24
'My Maserati does 185... Life's been good to me" - Joe Walsh BrightKnight Jul 2021 #34
"I Care A Lot." n/t ColinC Jul 2021 #3
A good and scary movie. n/t pnwmom Jul 2021 #6
I love horror movies, but that one was by far the scariest I've seen so far ColinC Jul 2021 #17
I was just thinking of that movie. alphafemale Jul 2021 #30
I care because hers is a much bigger issue. Conservatorships & laws around them were never hlthe2b Jul 2021 #4
Elderly person with a dementia isn't going to get better. LisaL Jul 2021 #12
Her case has illustrated the fallibility in these laws as they do NOT contemplate hlthe2b Jul 2021 #14
But the cases in NV involved elderly people without dementia, and also elderly people pnwmom Jul 2021 #22
I've been following this story. So happy for her. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #10
I think... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #11
And how many MALE musicians have done drugs and been close to the edge? pnwmom Jul 2021 #21
A lot... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #23
Agree. And if she's so fragile, why is she forced to work? Nt spooky3 Jul 2021 #25
Because her father is in charge of her entire life obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #31
That's my point, and it must change. Nt spooky3 Jul 2021 #32
Women as chattel... dlk Jul 2021 #15
You are quite correct. niyad Jul 2021 #19
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT! Layzeebeaver Jul 2021 #33
It sounds fair ripcord Jul 2021 #16
Where's Gloria Allred? oldtime dfl_er Jul 2021 #18
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2021 #26
The closer I look at it the more outrageous her situation appears. BrightKnight Jul 2021 #28
Yup. Some people have no sympathy for her because she's rich. pnwmom Jul 2021 #29

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
8. I think it's fine she has her own lawyer
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jul 2021

I just think that it’s a danged if you do danged if you don’t situation. I have seem many celebrities die over the years due to some sort of substance abuse and what do twitter (mostly) say? Where was the family? Where were the people who should have intervened. I’m not saying Britney has a substance abuse but her behavior was definitely a little concerning. Remember she shaved her head during a troubled time. If it was that she wanted it that’s fine but it was a cry for help. Now she has the help and is not interested. I just hope she does ok on her own.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
13. Her father has been using her for money
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jul 2021

She probably shaved her head to beat a drug test

People were still being jailed for pot back then

I would not be surprised to learn her father, lawyer and the judge conspired against her

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Heard she has annual income ? Of $18mm. Why not just
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:01 PM
Jul 2021

Give the father half and move on. Frankly surprised she hasn't been able to act in all these years??

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
2. I have to agree with you regarding her civil rights...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jul 2021

She essentially is a slave to her Court Orders and Parents...She is treated like a house or private property but with a pulse.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
5. She's competent enough to earn them multimillions every year, but not competent
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 07:55 PM
Jul 2021

enough to hire her own attorneys.

And her dad clearly didn't want her to get married or pregnant because that would loosen his grip on her -- and a pregnancy would slow down her career.

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
9. He is all about the control and money....
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 08:12 PM
Jul 2021

Such gross abuse....I'm deeply offended by this going on...sure, she might fail in some areas...don't we all?

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
27. Exactly. We all fail and we all goof up. But if you're rich, then you have to be prevented
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:59 AM
Jul 2021

from losing your money -- so others can make a lot "taking care" of you.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
34. 'My Maserati does 185... Life's been good to me" - Joe Walsh
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 04:41 PM
Jul 2021

Her image is largely controlled by the paparazzi industry and the image is not reality. Lots of pop stars have exploited their bad boy image.

I guess if you try that as a woman a judge could turn you into chattel and force you to be a good little girl.

She can’t be that constantly successful in her career and totally incapable of managing ANYTHING in her personal or financial life. She earns millions every year.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
4. I care because hers is a much bigger issue. Conservatorships & laws around them were never
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 07:54 PM
Jul 2021

meant to be temporary... Obviously, because most who need them aren't going to get "better." Hers is a case study on all the limitations of the law and courts. It needs to be used as a case study for legal and societal change.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. Elderly person with a dementia isn't going to get better.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jul 2021

But a young woman in her twenties? Very surprising if laws don't address that.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
14. Her case has illustrated the fallibility in these laws as they do NOT contemplate
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jul 2021

a need for a temporary (only permanent) conservatorship. Yes, of course, most who need such intervention are not going to get better (dementia) or are terminal. That is largely why the judges have ruled in often inexplicable ways because there is not a standard mechanism for a reassessment of the need for such intervention. This judge allowing for an independently chosen lawyer of Speers' choice is a good start.

One can only hope that her case is taken up in Congress for future clarifying legislation.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
22. But the cases in NV involved elderly people without dementia, and also elderly people
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:04 PM
Jul 2021

with disabilities whose adult children were ready, willing, and able to take care of them.

Joinfortmill

(14,416 posts)
10. I've been following this story. So happy for her.
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 08:28 PM
Jul 2021

Her new attorney is a power house. Heads are going to roll.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
11. I think...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 08:30 PM
Jul 2021

... she's well enough, now. Years ago, she was very "close to the edge"... but it's time for Britney to try taking charge of her life. It's her life and she needs to succeed or fail on her own, now... with a support system that can help her become independent.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
21. And how many MALE musicians have done drugs and been close to the edge?
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:03 PM
Jul 2021

And how many of them have been held in conservatorships for years and prevented from marrying or fathering children?

The only reason she needed to be prevented from failing was because she had tons of money and other people wanted it.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
23. A lot...
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:19 PM
Jul 2021

... some are dead. You'll get no argument from me on sexism in this case. I see it plainly. You are also correct about money attracting greedy thieves.



Layzeebeaver

(1,623 posts)
33. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT!
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:20 AM
Jul 2021

If she were male, it's likely that a conservatorship situation would either not have occurred or it would have been temporary.

ripcord

(5,346 posts)
16. It sounds fair
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 08:50 PM
Jul 2021

Especially since her father is using her money to pay for lawyers to fight her on this.

BrightKnight

(3,567 posts)
28. The closer I look at it the more outrageous her situation appears.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 02:50 AM
Jul 2021

She makes $60million and she is not permitted to access any of it and has no control over any of her personal affairs either.

It is frightening that this could happen to someone.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
29. Yup. Some people have no sympathy for her because she's rich.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 04:09 AM
Jul 2021

But she has almost no control over her wealth, or her working conditions, or her personal life. So what good is that wealth to her?

She's the bird in her father's gilded cage.

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