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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 01:27 PM Jul 2021

Delta variant accounts for 83% of new cases in US, CDC director says

Source: The Guardian

The highly transmissible Delta variant of the coronavirus now accounts for 83% of all sequenced cases in the US, a top federal health official said on Tuesday.

“This is a dramatic increase, up from 50% [in] the week of 4 July,” Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said in Senate testimony.

Walensky also said Covid fatalities had risen by nearly 48% over the past week to an average of 239 a day.

“Each death is tragic and even more heartbreaking when we know that the majority of these deaths could be prevented with a simple, safe available vaccine,” she said.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/delta-variant-accounts-for-83-of-new-cases-in-us-cdc-director-says/ar-AAMmTCk?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=DELLDHP

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Delta variant accounts for 83% of new cases in US, CDC director says (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
If the non-vaccinated by choice get this and die, I only hope they die alone. Moostache Jul 2021 #1
The disinformation campaign has been massive Warpy Jul 2021 #8
I understand why the unvaccinated are getting infected. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2021 #2
Primary reason it is far, far, far more contagious. Pobeka Jul 2021 #3
I AM TERRIFIED. MY GOP FAMILY WON'T GET VACCINATED. one is a teacher. Trueblue1968 Jul 2021 #5
Are you vaccinated? Pobeka Jul 2021 #6
of COURSE. I have Congestive heart failure. Hubby has BAD respiratory med issues Trueblue1968 Jul 2021 #17
It does matter a *lot* if you've been vaxxed. Pobeka Jul 2021 #18
for those of us who have more unlying medical issues, i just don't know. i am still scared Trueblue1968 Jul 2021 #19
++ This appalachiablue Jul 2021 #7
I more or less know that, but I'm still astonished PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2021 #10
You can also think in terms of exponential growth Pobeka Jul 2021 #13
That also means simple cloth and surgical masks are likely less effective madville Jul 2021 #15
I think cloth masks still have a place. Pobeka Jul 2021 #16
People are unmasked, indoor venues are open 100%, IronLionZion Jul 2021 #4
Thank you for that bit of information. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2021 #11
Vaccinated people tend to have lower viral load IronLionZion Jul 2021 #14
Evolution in action.... paleotn Jul 2021 #9
Maybe the unvaccinated should burn their dead in the parking lot like in India dalton99a Jul 2021 #12

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. If the non-vaccinated by choice get this and die, I only hope they die alone.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jul 2021

I have zero fucks to give these cretins who risk their lives and the lives of others for ANY REASON when they decline vaccination.

They earn their demise when they act like this and society should begin cutting off medical resources and access to the non-vaccinated by choice (NVBC) crowd. I don't give a fuck about their 'choices' or their 'freedumbs' or anything else these idiots have to say.

Get a stick, or get sick.

If it is your choice, be aware I am advocating that society merely accept your wishes en toto instead of a la carte. You don't want medical treatment to prevent serious disease and save your life, fine...have it your way...but that choice has consequences and its time the choosers become the only ones to pay for their assholery.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
8. The disinformation campaign has been massive
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 04:19 PM
Jul 2021

and even media that usually know better have trumpeted the fact that people are getting the Delta variant even when fully vaccinated, without mentioning that the cases are FAR less likely to result in hospitalization or death. The sensationalist reporting is disgusting. They are playing right into the hands of the propagandists who are using this to create chaos.

I blame the fucking propagandists. The people who are buying into it simply lack bullshit detectors and/or enough of a knowledge base to know who's telling them the truth.

I blame Tucker Carlson, not some poor dumb slob who thinks he looks like a nice man who'd never lie to the public.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
2. I understand why the unvaccinated are getting infected.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jul 2021

I'm a bit puzzled as to how this variant has spread so quickly. There must be even more people travelling than I realized.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
3. Primary reason it is far, far, far more contagious.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jul 2021

Everything becomes more of a likely vector. Instead of 100 people traveling around, you only need 10. A super spreader event only needs to last 5 minutes with a crowd instead of 30 minutes.

In a nutshell, you need far less viral particles to become infected. That is the game-changing thing about Delta, and why it is so successful at reproducing.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
6. Are you vaccinated?
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 03:58 PM
Jul 2021

If you are vaccinated and masked when around others, odds are very much in your favor that you won't get enough of a viral load to cause a symptomatic infection.

Sorry to hear about your family. They are caught up in the mass hysteria generated by the GOP.

Trueblue1968

(17,217 posts)
17. of COURSE. I have Congestive heart failure. Hubby has BAD respiratory med issues
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 08:40 PM
Jul 2021

i am 71 and hubby is 73.

The Delta Variant looks like it doesn't CARE if you have been vaccinated. You can get covid.


Delta variant accounts for 83% of new cases in US, CDC director says
The highly transmissible Delta variant of the coronavirus now accounts for 83% of all sequenced cases in the US, a top federal health official said on Tuesday.
~~ “This is a dramatic increase, up from 50% in the week of 4 July,” Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC & Prevention said in Senate testimony.
Walensky also said Covid fatalities had risen by nearly 48% over the past week to an average of 239 a day.
“Each death is tragic and even more heartbreaking when we know that the majority of these deaths could be prevented with a simple, safe available vaccine,” she said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/delta-variant-accounts-for-83-of-new-cases-in-us-cdc-director-says/ar-AAMmTCk?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=DELLDHP&fbclid=IwAR0w0J1k-UtBjXKq2gtUebb2yfSfrt3Mkh2Hk0StWGjoJQRLFc9jwnv51uc

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
18. It does matter a *lot* if you've been vaxxed.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jul 2021

If you had a good immune response to the vaccination, Delta will have a very tough time giving you more than a mild symptom.

All those cases you are seeing reported are happening for the most part in unvaccinated individuals.

I'm not suggesting, (nor do I), take no precautions. It's so easy to wear a mask, so easy to social distance (strangers mainly), it'd be foolish to drop those additional safeguards to prevent inhalation of a large viral load.

But if I'm around others that I am 100% confident they have been vaxxed, I don't wear a mask.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
10. I more or less know that, but I'm still astonished
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jul 2021

at how quickly it is spreading. And along with it being far more contagious, is the fact that so many people are pretending things are back to "normal".

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
13. You can also think in terms of exponential growth
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 05:38 PM
Jul 2021

Assuming the original wild strain infects 1.1 other people, and Delta is 2.5 times as infectious as the wild strain (not too far off from what I've read) here's what happens in just 5 cycles if you start of with 1 infected individual:


(sorry, I forgot there is no fixed font for DU.)
_________ CASES
Cycle Normal Delta
1______ 1 ____1
2______ 1.1 ____2.75
3______ 1.21 ____7.56
4______ 1.33 ____20.80
5______ 1.46 ____57.1


This is what clobbered India.

There is absolutely nothing normal about it, as you point out.

madville

(7,410 posts)
15. That also means simple cloth and surgical masks are likely less effective
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:25 PM
Jul 2021

Anything below a N95 or double/triple masking along with a full face shield is probably not doing much.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
16. I think cloth masks still have a place.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:32 PM
Jul 2021

Clearly N95 is better.

But the whole thing is about not inhaling enough viral load to cause an infection.

So if a cloth mask eliminates 50% of particles, it does that regardless of the COVID variant.

If all you have is a cloth mask, and you work diligently to keep 9 feet from unknown individuals, and make the encounters as brief as possible, you still get a benefit.

If you are vaxxed you can take a larger viral load and not become symptomatic. So a cloth mask + vaxxed + 6 feet probably means you're ok. That is simply my guess, I have nothing to back it up.

IronLionZion

(45,434 posts)
4. People are unmasked, indoor venues are open 100%,
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jul 2021

so cases are rising in parts of the country where they don't bother to social distance or wear masks, or get vaccinated.

Delta is super contagious. Australian contact tracing showed just quick walk-past indoor contact is enough for an unvaccinated person to spread it to another unvaccinated person without even stopping to have a conversation.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
11. Thank you for that bit of information.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jul 2021

And of course, the crucial thing is unvaccinated. Not that the vaccinated aren't occasionally getting it, but in smaller numbers and they aren't getting as sick. Or dying.

IronLionZion

(45,434 posts)
14. Vaccinated people tend to have lower viral load
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:04 PM
Jul 2021

and can usually fight it off quicker and there's less viral load to infect someone else. That's how a plane full of vaccinated Texas Dems got 6 positive tests with mild or no symptoms.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
9. Evolution in action....
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 05:26 PM
Jul 2021

The delta variant is more contagious, so it's able to move from host to host faster, replacing previous, less efficient variants.

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