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brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:11 AM Jul 2021

Rand Paul Says He'll Make Criminal Referral to DOJ Against Dr. Fauci

Source: Gizmodo

U.S. Senator Rand Paul will make a criminal referral to the U.S. Department of Justice against Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the infectious diseases department at NIH. Paul’s threat was first announced on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show on Tuesday night and came after Fauci pushed back against the senator’s aggressive questioning during a senate committee hearing in Washington D.C.

“I will be sending a letter to the Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral because he has lied to Congress,” Senator Paul told Sean Hannity.

Paul, a senator from Kentucky, alleges that U.S. funding of research on infectious diseases in Wuhan, China at the Wuhan Institute of Virology may have played a role in the covid-19 pandemic that’s ravaged the world over the past year and a half, sickening at least 191 million people and killing over 4.11 million.

Senator Paul says he’s worried that so-called “gain-of-function research” was conducted in Wuhan that may have led to the novel coronavirus being developed artificially and released into the world, intentionally or not. Gain-of-function research is when an organism is genetically modified to have a new ability, such as agricultural crops being more resistant to pests.


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Rand Paul Says He'll Make Criminal Referral to DOJ Against Dr. Fauci (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2021 OP
paul is so far below fauci intellectually... samnsara Jul 2021 #1
He's just like a Karen ... demanding to see the manager. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #24
Hey Rand, Doctor's Orders. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #62
Rand Paul is an even greater idiot than his useless, loudmouth father onetexan Jul 2021 #70
"Dr." Rand Paul had to create his own board certification entity in order to stay board certified Siwsan Jul 2021 #2
That isn't correct FBaggins Jul 2021 #6
I stand corrected!!! Siwsan Jul 2021 #11
Yeah... it's an odd story to be sure FBaggins Jul 2021 #16
He got mad because the ABMS switched from lifetime to 10 year certifications Siwsan Jul 2021 #25
Lots of cases of elected officials who should have stuck to their original profession. NYC Liberal Jul 2021 #45
I could have done without Trump's reality TV FBaggins Jul 2021 #58
I preferred him going bankrupt in the casino game myself (n/t) Moostache Jul 2021 #72
Paul has moved so far to the back of the pack of "influential and NoMoreRepugs Jul 2021 #3
Paul needs to be censured at a minimum. He is making unsubstantiated charges against JohnSJ Jul 2021 #4
This looks like another frivolous lawsuit just to "own the libs" bullshit.. YMMV..nt mitch96 Jul 2021 #7
Yes and a way to get some public attention PatSeg Jul 2021 #23
Its not a lawsuit period ScratchCat Jul 2021 #39
Let's make stupidity a crime. Paul is clearly in violation. mpcamb Jul 2021 #5
One Of My Favorite SciFi Authors Once Wrote... GB_RN Jul 2021 #12
Hoping/wishing he could get fined huge bucks for making a knowingly frivolous/malicious referral. lark Jul 2021 #8
Nope, there's no penalty for a stupid referral. I bet they get crazy complaints every day. Shrike47 Jul 2021 #52
Now I understand Roy Rolling Jul 2021 #9
I thought that as soon as the neighbor gopiscrap Jul 2021 #40
OMG, what a freaking deluded asshole LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #10
How about "Dr." Rand Paul doing some personal gain-of-function? Paladin Jul 2021 #13
It's INFURIATING when idiots think they know more than the experts groundloop Jul 2021 #14
His neighbor taking him out is now becoming much clearer... What a useless prick, Aqua Buddha Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #15
Boy, Fauci must have really gotten under Rand Paul's skin. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #17
Good luck with that shit, chesty Aviation Pro Jul 2021 #18
Lets hope the judge remembers this, duforsure Jul 2021 #19
Someone needs to remind Paul that Trump removed US scientists from the Wuhan lab when he took office secondwind Jul 2021 #20
One suspects that the "Esteemed" Senator Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #21
Looking forward to the day that the DOJ. bluestarone Jul 2021 #22
So The Rest of Us Are Subject to Prosecution for Lying modrepub Jul 2021 #26
I'm telling mom. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #27
Dr. Fauci got under that thin skin of his. Warpy Jul 2021 #28
Canada should put his hernia back Orrex Jul 2021 #29
I think that Senator Paul was especially annoyed when Fauci said Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2021 #30
His so-called "complaint" will be file-13nd and he'll be lucky if he isn't Texin Jul 2021 #31
Not a lawsuit. More like reporting to the FBI you saw space aliens. Shrike47 Jul 2021 #53
Randy is PISSED... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2021 #32
To think a "human" can come to such a sick pathetic pass. ananda Jul 2021 #33
What a contemptible little man Paul is Hekate Jul 2021 #34
To modern Republicans, telling the truth is a felony. Chainfire Jul 2021 #35
he sued his cow and he sued his mom. y not criminal charges against him AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #36
He should sue for defamation in civil court pecosbob Jul 2021 #37
Republicans don't need no proof of a crime. They'll lock you up just cause they hate you. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #38
I remember Leningrad Lindsey Graham NewJeffCT Jul 2021 #47
the DOJ will give his referral due consideration rdking647 Jul 2021 #41
Well, the fuckers weren't going to accept any answer he gave anyways, so... Initech Jul 2021 #42
The crime? Fauci kicked Rand in the crotch. Sneederbunk Jul 2021 #43
Rand Paul: You are a continuing embarrassment to sane Kentuckians Bayard Jul 2021 #44
Doesn't Congress approve funding? I think I saw that somewhere. snort Jul 2021 #46
Rand Who? BlueIdaho Jul 2021 #48
Paul needs a larger wig, this one is cutting off circulation to his brain. marble falls Jul 2021 #49
Can rand paul be sued by libel and slander, for making unsupported charges without evidence JohnSJ Jul 2021 #50
Fauci does not tell you about eyes Rand.... Jon King Jul 2021 #51
Frankly, I doubt anybody at DOJ could understand what they are arguing about. Shrike47 Jul 2021 #54
Rand Paul is a tiny little parasite. He's living proof that the senate needs to be de-wormed. n/t iscooterliberally Jul 2021 #55
I hear ivermectin is good for that. Give them all a tube of horse paste. -n/t Retired Engineer Bob Jul 2021 #78
I guess that Senatorial Dumbitude isn't a crime n/t MrModerate Jul 2021 #56
Democrats need to make Paul and and any other Repuke who pulls this shit pay dearly for hadEnuf Jul 2021 #57
what is a gizmodo? nt yaesu Jul 2021 #59
Fine. And if YOU'RE wrong, then YOU get charged. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #60
Sounds like a dual. Last man standing. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #61
What a drama queen. apnu Jul 2021 #63
Paul must need some Corgigal Jul 2021 #64
He loves making criminal referrals - his neighbor literally, Fauci figuratively.... George II Jul 2021 #65
Whine some more, Randy Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #66
Hey, Rand! AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #67
That's so ridiculous that maybe we should not even dignify Paul's nonsense with a reply. totodeinhere Jul 2021 #68
"Oh, for fuck's sake!" Bubbles - "Trailer Park Boys" Bo Zarts Jul 2021 #69
It's hard to choose... rlegro Jul 2021 #71
Is there a penalty MurrayDelph Jul 2021 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #74
Criminal referral of Fauci by Rand Paul people Jul 2021 #75
Wow. Ok. Democratic senators should make a criminal referral against DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #76
Rand Paul Is An Example Of The tRump-Krueger Effect GB_RN Jul 2021 #77
It's Dr. Fauci who should refer Rand paul for endangering the public by spreading disinformation onetexan Jul 2021 #79

samnsara

(17,604 posts)
1. paul is so far below fauci intellectually...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:15 AM
Jul 2021

...fauci should be insulted that paul even is allowed to question him

Siwsan

(26,249 posts)
2. "Dr." Rand Paul had to create his own board certification entity in order to stay board certified
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:18 AM
Jul 2021

A certification board that pretty much NOBODY but him and his few members recognized.

I don't know why anyone would give him even a nod of acknowledgment or an ounce of credibility on ANY issue.

Siwsan

(26,249 posts)
11. I stand corrected!!!
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:55 AM
Jul 2021

I spent years credentialing physicians and his board situation was a real teaching tool. But, yea, he's an all around piece of bad work, that's for sure.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
16. Yeah... it's an odd story to be sure
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:14 AM
Jul 2021

Just not one that indicates that he couldn't pass the certification exam and thus isn't a good doctor.

By all accounts... he's a pretty good eye surgeon who donates lots of his time doing it for free in the third world and for the uninsured. Frankly... I'd say we would all be better off if he did that instead of "senatoring"

Siwsan

(26,249 posts)
25. He got mad because the ABMS switched from lifetime to 10 year certifications
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:33 AM
Jul 2021

Prior to 1992 the board was considered a lifetime certification. He took it in 1995. His attitude was, if he has to recertify every 10 years, then so should all of the physicians who were 'grandfathered' into lifetime status. So, he started his own board, with family members. As I recall, he lured in less than 100 physicians and his 'National Board of Ophthalmology' was dissolved. How he thought that coming up with his own board would EVER pass muster with the medical community, as a whole, speaks a lot to his mindset.

With his lack of board certification, he'd be hard pressed to be contracted by any hospital or credentialed by any insurance company so he'd better keep his day job.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
45. Lots of cases of elected officials who should have stuck to their original profession.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:10 AM
Jul 2021

Herbert Hoover should have stuck to engineering and business.

Reagan should have stuck to acting.

Bush Jr should have stuck to baseball.

Trump should have stuck to reality TV.

And that’s just presidents.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
58. I could have done without Trump's reality TV
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jul 2021

Stuck to putting his name on buildings would have been nice.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,371 posts)
3. Paul has moved so far to the back of the pack of "influential and
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:19 AM
Jul 2021

important” RePutinicans he is desperately grandstanding to find anything that will get him some attention.

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
4. Paul needs to be censured at a minimum. He is making unsubstantiated charges against
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:26 AM
Jul 2021

Dr. Fauci, and this is outrageous


PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
23. Yes and a way to get some public attention
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:31 AM
Jul 2021

So many of these republicans cannot stand being ignored for too long, so they do and say outrageous things to get in the news. Its almost like a contest to see who can be the most outrageous.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
39. Its not a lawsuit period
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:42 AM
Jul 2021

Its a false referral to DOJ alleging a crime that did not happen. Its all grandstanding with the purpose to discredit a good man and then pretend that the Biden Administration is "covering" for this good man when DOJ throws the referral in the garbage.

GB_RN

(2,334 posts)
12. One Of My Favorite SciFi Authors Once Wrote...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:00 AM
Jul 2021

“Stupidity isn’t necessarily punishable by violence, although there are days I wish it were.”

Rand Paul is a major case-in-point.

lark

(23,061 posts)
8. Hoping/wishing he could get fined huge bucks for making a knowingly frivolous/malicious referral.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:50 AM
Jul 2021

Come on Garland, slap it to him - if it's at all possible. Put a lien on him, repugs will hate that worse than anything.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
52. Nope, there's no penalty for a stupid referral. I bet they get crazy complaints every day.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:30 AM
Jul 2021

Some poor person is tasked with reading them, although some, I’m sure, are kind of funny.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
9. Now I understand
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 08:53 AM
Jul 2021

I don’t condone violence, but Rand Paul’s neighbor lives next door to the prick and tolerates more than a human can endure.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
13. How about "Dr." Rand Paul doing some personal gain-of-function?
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:01 AM
Jul 2021

Like, say, moving his I.Q. above 60 or so?

Don't hold your breaths, waiting for it to happen...

groundloop

(11,513 posts)
14. It's INFURIATING when idiots think they know more than the experts
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:06 AM
Jul 2021

I've had to deal with that bullshit from time to time, assholes with no idea what they're talking about questioning my decisions in my field of expertise. It just gets absolutely ridiculous wasting time to deal with that nonsense, and I must say that Dr. Fauci is handling it better than I could.

17. Boy, Fauci must have really gotten under Rand Paul's skin.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:18 AM
Jul 2021

Of course, I doubt he has never been called a liar to his face by a witness who is giving sworn testimony. That must have really punctured his massive ego, knowing that's now in the Congressional Record. I hope he is man enough to call back Fauci when the DOJ reports that the doctor did not lie during his previous testimony. I'm not going to hold my breath.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
19. Lets hope the judge remembers this,
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:19 AM
Jul 2021

After rand paul is indicted, and charged, and convicted at his sentencing hearing.

modrepub

(3,491 posts)
26. So The Rest of Us Are Subject to Prosecution for Lying
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:33 AM
Jul 2021

but Politicians can lie to their hearts content with no real consequences.

Warpy

(111,138 posts)
28. Dr. Fauci got under that thin skin of his.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:48 AM
Jul 2021

As usual, he's got nothing and the DOJ will laugh him out of the office.

However, Paul never turns down an opportunity to look like a ridiculous little man, so I'm sure he'll pursue it.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
30. I think that Senator Paul was especially annoyed when Fauci said
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jul 2021

In response to Paul's questions, "Senator, you don't know what you're talking about." No one likes to be called an idiot in a public meeting, especially when one is an idiot.

Texin

(2,590 posts)
31. His so-called "complaint" will be file-13nd and he'll be lucky if he isn't
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:56 AM
Jul 2021

charged with filing a frivolous and punitive lawsuit. I hope they do it.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,722 posts)
32. Randy is PISSED...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:57 AM
Jul 2021

That Dr. Fauci was not going to put up with his bullshit and called a spade a spade.

Rand Paul is a disgrace and a piece of shit in continuing to fester this animosity he has towards a man of science with a proven record.

AllaN01Bear

(17,987 posts)
36. he sued his cow and he sued his mom. y not criminal charges against him
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:20 AM
Jul 2021

for signing that lawsuit by the arizona ag and all of the said signitories .

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
47. I remember Leningrad Lindsey Graham
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:15 AM
Jul 2021

making a criminal referral for Christopher Steele, who I don't think would be subject to US prosecution?

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
41. the DOJ will give his referral due consideration
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:50 AM
Jul 2021

before tossing it in the trash heap where it belongs......


Bayard

(22,005 posts)
44. Rand Paul: You are a continuing embarrassment to sane Kentuckians
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:09 AM
Jul 2021

Sit down. Shut up. Know when you are outclassed.

Hope we have a stellar candidate to run against him next year. And Paul doesn't have access to McConnell's machinations.

snort

(2,334 posts)
46. Doesn't Congress approve funding? I think I saw that somewhere.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:13 AM
Jul 2021

Like lying to your boss about how much you're paid.

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
50. Can rand paul be sued by libel and slander, for making unsupported charges without evidence
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:20 AM
Jul 2021

against Dr. Fauci, for trying to damage his reputation, and exposing Dr. Fauci to public hatred, and a risk to Dr. Fauci and his families lives?

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
51. Fauci does not tell you about eyes Rand....
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jul 2021

Stick to what you know, you are way out of your depth with infectious diseases.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
54. Frankly, I doubt anybody at DOJ could understand what they are arguing about.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jul 2021

Fauci is the expert here, I doubt Paul understands what they are arguing about.

hadEnuf

(2,175 posts)
57. Democrats need to make Paul and and any other Repuke who pulls this shit pay dearly for
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:56 AM
Jul 2021

it in every possible way they can. This is madness.

Make them rue the day they opened their lying mouths.


Until we start making these vermin pieces of trash pay a stiff and consistent price for what they do, they will keep pulling shit like this over and over and over and over again.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
60. Fine. And if YOU'RE wrong, then YOU get charged.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jul 2021

Can a Senator be charged with lying too? Or only the damn witness?

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
64. Paul must need some
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jul 2021

of that sweet anti vac money for his re-election. At least the person running against him, Charles Booker, will call him corrupt , and has already been circulating it on his Facebook page.

George II

(67,782 posts)
65. He loves making criminal referrals - his neighbor literally, Fauci figuratively....
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jul 2021

Here's where that referral will wind up in minutes:



Bo Zarts

(25,390 posts)
69. "Oh, for fuck's sake!" Bubbles - "Trailer Park Boys"
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jul 2021

"What a fuck-wad!" Dame Cath Tizard - 16th Governor-General of New Zealand (1990 to 1996.)

rlegro

(338 posts)
71. It's hard to choose...
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:13 PM
Jul 2021

...which all-GOP U.S. Senate delegation is more contemptible and ridiculous: Kentucky's McConnell and Rand, or Texas' Cornyn and Cruz. About equal, although McConnell tips the scales by having been Majority Leader and actually putting teeth into Republican absurdities.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

DemocraticPatriot

(4,306 posts)
76. Wow. Ok. Democratic senators should make a criminal referral against
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jul 2021

all of the Republicans in congress, who have ever lied to the congress.


That is bound to be a pretty large list...

GB_RN

(2,334 posts)
77. Rand Paul Is An Example Of The tRump-Krueger Effect
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:54 PM
Jul 2021

It's like Dunning-Krueger, but worse: Too stupid to know you're stupid, but even dumber than that.

onetexan

(13,020 posts)
79. It's Dr. Fauci who should refer Rand paul for endangering the public by spreading disinformation
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:41 PM
Jul 2021

and lies. Paul is the criminal liar here, not Dr. Fauci. I loathe Paul more each time i read about him in the news. He can't help being the smug dumbass that he is.

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