Billy Graham's Grandson, a Cancer Survivor, Is Critically Ill With COVID-19

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Source: Newsweek

Jonathan Lotz, the grandson of televangelist Billy Graham and a cancer survivor, is hospitalized in critical condition with COVID-19.

Lotz's mother Anne Graham Lotz, the daughter of Billy Graham, revealed her son's condition while urging her followers to pray for him in social media posts over the weekend.


Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/billy-grahams-grandson-cancer-survivor-critically-ill-covid-19-1613314

[Walleye]

1. Was he vaccinated?

[Dream Girl]

2. Dunno just pray.

[Skittles]

20. praying does nothing

my guess, al the lengths they go to mention gawd and not mention vaccination, no, he was not vaccinated

[Dream Girl]

24. I know. I was trying to be cute.

[OnlinePoker]

27. But don't worry. If he survives it will because god did it for him.

They won't say anything about the medical staff busting their asses to give him a chance to make it.

[Skittles]

29. that's what happens when you don't live in the real world

yes indeed

[Tanuki]

8. I have not seen that important detail in any of the reporting.

I am curious as well.

[JohnSJ]

11. Most important question. I suspect the answer is no or they would have said it

[Hugh_Lebowski]

3. May not have been able to get the vaccine, so I'm not going to talk any smack ...

Best wishes, Mr. Lotz.

[SoCalDavidS]

4. Why Wouldn't He Have Been Able To Get Vaccine? They Don't Give It To Cancer Survivors? nt

[Hugh_Lebowski]

6. Maybe if the cancer battle was real recent?

Not sure how that works.

Until I'm sure he
a) could have gotten the vaccine, and
b) chose not to, without any sort of doctor-recommended reason

I'll not run smack.

[LisaL]

7. No, his cancer battle was many years ago.

He was declared cancer free in 2005.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. I believe he is in his early 50s

[LiberalFighter]

31. Yep. She stated she could hold him in her arms 50 years ago.

[nattyice]

9. I'm sure prayer will work, just like it did during the Black Plague

[PerceptionManagement]

10. hopes and prayers

[Enter stage left]

12. Oh yeah...and send money

[SoCalDavidS]

13. He'll Have Something In Common With Herman Cain

Except Herman did not have the opportunity to get vaccinated.

[keithbvadu2]

14. Not in God's good graces?

[Mike Nelson]

15. No special thoughts for...

... him. Just the same thoughts I have for everyone suffering from COVID. I hope he receives good care and recovers fully.

[MineralMan]

16. God says, "Just get your shot, for Christ's sake!"

[Croney]

17. Interesting trivia... He's 6'9" and was manager of a

Chick-fil-A, per the article. I hate that place.

[Lonestarblue]

18. I may be one of the few people who has never eaten at Chick-fil-A.

And I plan never to do so.

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19. We haven't either, and won't.

[Ziggysmom]

23. I have not either. I'm a vegetarian who had a pet chicken once. I could never eat any bird.

[Mr. Evil]

21. I think the family will play this all the way.

If he hasn't been vaccinated and he recovers they'll all scream, "It's a miracle! The prayers were answered!" blah, blah. If he hasn't been vaccinated and dies they'll say, "God called him home to be by his side to help with the lord's work."
If he has been vaccinated and dies they'll all cry, "The vaccines don't work. God tested his faith and he failed by getting vaccinated" or some shit. If he has been vaccinated and recovers they'll say, "He was blessed by God's medicine or God's healing powers always amaze!"

My feeling is if he's been vaccinated they would've said so. This pathogen is a crap shoot. No one knows how it's going to affect anyone that is infected by it. It might be nothing or it might be devastating. Get your damn shot!

[LisaL]

22. I don't think he was vaccinated.

Like you said, if he had been, his family would have presumably said so.
Large number of white evangelicals remain un-vaccinated.

[AverageOldGuy]

25. True story

My mother -- God rest her soul, she left us in 2007 -- was a saint. She was reared in the segregationist rural South in the 1920's-30's, yet, she championed civil rights and women's rights. The last march she attended she carried a sign reading: "I marched. My daughter marched. Why is my granddaughter having to march to end this shit?"

In 20XX, the Billy Graham Evangelical Crusade was coming to her city. She was on the Board of Directors of the organization that was raising money for the Crusade -- she pledged $10,000. Then she saw the list of demands from the Graham crowd -- I don't recall the details, but, the Graham people wanted:
-- Luxury hotel suites;
-- On-call limos, 24 hours a day;
-- Local folks paid the charges for the Graham private plane at the local airport;
-- Specific water, snacks, and the like behind stage at every event;
-- And on and on and on.

As I recall, it added up to around $200,000 the local folks would have to provide. She withdrew her pledge, resigned from the Board, did not attend a single event. When she explained to me why she did what she did was the first time in decades I saw my mother cry. She said: "We could have put children in camp, put roofs on houses, and done so much good with that money."

I don't know if I am sorry for the Graham grandson or not.

[keithbvadu2]

28. CBR - Cash Based Religion. J

CBR - Cash Based Religion.

Judas was an early, modern-day, conservative disciple.

Judas got 30 pieces of silver, but just once, for selling Christ.

Franklin Graham, Jim Bakker, Pat Robertson, and their ilk get millions of dollars repeatedly for selling Christ.

Judas was a fool for doing a one-time sale.

[not fooled]

30. Wow

That's an amazing--and disgusting--story.

Too bad there isn't more investigative reporting exposing these Pharisees. I'm guessing corporate media don't want to anger religious nuts + outing fake Xtians means lessening support for GQPee policies including corporate tax cuts.

[kairos12]

26. Couldn't stand Graham.

[Omaha Steve]

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