Conor Lamb launching Senate bid in Pennsylvania
Source: Politico
Rep. Conor Lamb is launching his long-expected Senate bid in Pennsylvania Friday, joining the crowded Democratic field in a state that is critical for the party as it seeks to protect or expand its narrow Senate majority.
Lamb, 37, a Marine and former prosecutor, rose to prominence when he won a nationally-watched House special election in 2018 months before the party flipped control of the chamber. He won reelection in 2018 and narrowly captured a second full term last year. Lamb, in an interview prior to his official launch, highlighted his string of competitive House victories as a strength in the Senate race, and said hes running because hes grown frustrated by House-passed legislation that falls flat in the upper chamber.
A single Senate seat in the Democratic column at this point would make a huge difference in our ability to get things done, Lamb said. I want to be part of that. I think the House campaigns that I've had I ran three in a very short period of time that were very hard, that had [then-President Donald] Trump personally involved every time and I think that has prepared me uniquely for this race.
Pennsylvania is critical for Democrats Senate hopes in next years midterms. They are defending four vulnerable incumbents, all in states President Joe Biden carried, and are on offense in two Republican-held seats Biden won: Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. GOP Sen. Pat Toomey is retiring, and Republicans have a competitive primary to replace him.
Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/06/conor-lamb-senate-pennsylvania-502666
Announcement video:
Link to tweet
BumRushDaShow
(169,747 posts)We need his seat in the House and Fetterman already has a good head start.
No one on this side of state where 1/3rd of the votes are located, knows who he is but they are aware of Fetterman's outreach here with his silly "Sheetz" vs "Wawa" stuff.
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)I'm in his district and fully expect to be thrown in with Mike Kelly's district, PA-16. Think the Allegheny County part of the 17th will go to Doyle's 18th district.
BumRushDaShow
(169,747 posts)because from what I understand from early Census analysis, the population growth was on this side of the state, but it is a matter of what rural areas they consolidate.
We also have a different dynamic than 2010, with a (D) Governor and majority-(D) State Supreme Court, so attempts at extreme gerrymandering are going to really have some pushback with a lot more teeth than 10 years ago. The fact that the current lines were drawn by that state Supreme Court would probably be a baseline for what is to come - and it can't be as dramatic as the GOP probably envisions, although obviously since the state is losing a seat, someone's district is going to have to go away.
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)the old PA-14.
If you look at the map, PA-17 is easy to eliminate. Just move Beaver County into PA-16 and the Allegheny County part to PA-18. That complies with the PA supreme court order not to split municipalities and to make compact districts. It eliminates a Dem seat which the Rs want and honestly reflects the political winds in western PA.
With Wolf as governor, he'll veto any crazily gerry-mandered map. Nordenberg's the 5th member and his career as an academic should also help tamp down the Rs trying to give themselves an outsize advantage.
I understand also that the redistricting process is going to allow citizen input as well as citizen generated maps. It's pretty much what FairdistrictsPA has been campaigning for except it's not an all citizen, non-partisan group doing the map drawing.
BumRushDaShow
(169,747 posts)is that the rural red county losses preclude an "automatic" elimination of a (D) seat given the bluing of the east.

They could fold PA-10 into PA-12 (since 10 was a close loss by DePasquale) or PA-10 into PA-9 (possibly with part of 10 into 11). Supposedly both Cumberland and Lebanon Counties in that area around Harrisburg had the fastest growth.

Whatever they decide, it'll be tied up in the courts and if anything, my worry is more with the state House/Senate seats, which are an absolute travesty of gerrymandering (even with the so-called "fixed version" which was still done under Corbett and the trifecta (R) government (Executive, Legislative, Judicial).
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)which is losing population. That's as it should be.
Budi
(15,325 posts)We need the absolute most winnable candidate for this Senate seat.
Lamb's record is far superior & checks all the boxes for the position of the Senate.
Lamb, 37, a Marine and former prosecutor, rose to prominence when he won a nationally-watched House special election in 2018 months before the party flipped control of the chamber. He won reelection in 2018 and narrowly captured a second full term last year. Lamb, in an interview prior to his official launch, highlighted his string of competitive House victories as a strength in the Senate race, and said hes running because hes grown frustrated by House-passed legislation that falls flat in the upper chamber.
A single Senate seat in the Democratic column at this point would make a huge difference in our ability to get things done, Lamb said. I want to be part of that. I think the House campaigns that I've had I ran three in a very short period of time that were very hard, that had [then-President Donald] Trump personally involved every time and I think that has prepared me uniquely for this race.
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He would be a formidable Senator & a Democratic allied aset to pull the balance in our favor.
He is loyal, experienced, baggage-free & reliable.
He has the absolute #1 shot at winning Toomey's seat against any Republucan they run against him.
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)Conor Lamb's service is as a JAG. Not saying that's not important, but it's a staff position, not a line one.
He is my congressman and completely milquetoast. I appreciate that he usually votes with Pelosi, but he is too conservative. He doesn't appeal to Republicans as is witnessed by him losing the vote in the Beaver county portion of his district both times he ran. Beaver County is full of the kind of voter to which Lamb claims to appeal, conservative Dems and blue collar union members.
I had a chance to meet Lamb and have a conversation with him a couple years ago. He certainly struck me as sincere and honest, but he will be a roadblock to a progressive agenda.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Also sounds like a talking point.
🙄
It's based on Lamb's public statements and actions. He sells himself as a moderate/centrist and determined to be "bipartisan". But maybe you like Manchin holding up Biden's agenda.
George II
(67,782 posts)He ranks 166 of 220 rated Democrats.
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)from the Senate where you are 1 of 100 and have more ability to block legislation.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,747 posts)and Lamb has made ZERO inroads here in SE PA.
We here would vote for any (D) but the problem would be a lethargic vote for Senate (if he managed to beat Fetterman, which is doubtful) because part of the last election law that brought us mail-in ballots also eliminated the "straight party voting" option.
Fetterman has a history of being born and raised in south central PA and serving as a mayor in western PA. I considered him like a younger, more vocal version of Tom Wolf because Wolf served in the Peace Corps as a young man and Fetterman served in the follow-on AmeriCorps as a young man. And his AmeriCorps work with young people is prime stuff for urban dwellers here. His legalization of marijuana efforts also cross over into some of the Libertarian voter interests, given that Libertarians make up a significant part of the electorate here and have enough votes to swing elections significantly (we saw that along with the Green Party back in 2016).
Fetterman was able to win a statewide race too, which is a critical test. And his role as Lt. Governor automatically makes him the President of the state Senate, so he has that experience as well (and he vehemently protested the idiot GOPers when they refused to seat a duly-elected Democrat in their tantrum to throw out votes for Sen. Jim Brewster, and eventually voted to remove him from the chamber).
Link to tweet
TEXT
ryan cooper
@ryanlcooper
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Jan 5, 2021
PA Senate Republicans just refused to seat a Democrat who narrowly won reelection and whose victory was confirmed by the PA Supreme Court
Pa. GOP senators refused to seat a Democrat and removed Lt. Gov. Fetterman from presiding
The new session of the Pennsylvania Senate got off to a chaotic start Tuesday, with Republicans refusing to seat a Democratic senator whose election victory has been certified by the state.
inquirer.com
The Recount
@therecount
Watch the wild video of @JohnFetterman being removed from the PA State Senate:
3:37 PM · Jan 5, 2021
And as a note - so far - the announced GOP candidates are almost all TFG loons, with one black woman thrown in for good measure.
If things stay that way, then whoever the (D) is will have a good chance if the turnout is there and they don't screw with the mail-in votes.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)They both represent progressive/JDem backed orgs.
Lamb represents the Democratic Party.
I predict a repeat of OH-11.
With the similar outcome.
Lamb will win this race.
My opinion ..
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)nt
ebbie15644
(1,244 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)and is unknown outside of SW Pa. Lamb's my congressman. The only reason he beat Parnell was the voter's in the Allegheny County part of the 17th.
Fetterman is well-known across the state. He helped himself by holding many town hall type meetings in the small, rural counties to gauge the support for legalizing marijuana. These blue collar and rural Dem primary voters relate to Fetterman and they like his blunt, no BS style.
I have no doubt Fetterman will win western PA pretty easily. He'll be helped by Kenyatta, Arkoosh and Street splitting the SE Pa and Phila vote.
It's important to remember than in 2016, Sanders beat Clinton in the PA Dem primary in the small counties and rural part of Pennsylvania. They liked his economic populism message, the same platform Fetterman will run on. Fetterman will be a strong supporter of Biden's agenda. Lamb would be Joe Manchin redux.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)But Clinton beat Sanders overall in 2016 and Biden beat Sanders overall in 2020.
I don't see Pennsylvania being that progressive Statewide.
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)and this isn't a two person primary. While western PA has a shrinking population, it almost always votes in higher percentages than the much more populous eastern part of the state giving it more clout than it should have. Further, voters here tend to back "their own" which Fetterman is. That will lock down the western PA primary vote for Fetterman. Philadelphia/SE Pa will split its votes among Arkoosh, Kenyatta and Street. Fetterman is the only candidate who has met face-to-face with people in the small and rural counties across the state. Face-to-face contact is a huge advantage as voters tend to vote for candidates they've actually met.
Pennsylvania also elects its Gov and LtGov candidates seperately during the primaries. Here are the 2018 Lt Gov primary results with a similarly large and diverse candidate field: https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/Home/CountyBreakDownResults?officeId=4&districtId=1&ElectionID=63&ElectionType=P&IsActive=0
You can see Fetterman's strength in the small and rural counties of the "T" and in SW Pa.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Did that balloon knot from texass ever pay off on the bet he made with Fetterman. Of course not. Low life repukes.
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)nt
Budi
(15,325 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,135 posts)Moderates have not done well in recent PA statewide elections, but Lamb's suit and ties will play to conservative PA burbs and older voters. That's how he won his district races. I call this one for Fetterman, I really think he's unstoppable.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)Lamb won't have much appeal to them.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)The Casey family is iconic here. Sen Casey could be a senator for life. In fact, when another politician named Bob Casey, but not related, ran for office he won overwhelmingly.
Honestly, it's evident from your posts, your knowledge of the PA political landscape is limited.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Lamb's record is far superior & checks all the boxes for the position of the Senate.
Lamb, 37, a Marine and former prosecutor, rose to prominence when he won a nationally-watched House special election in 2018 months before the party flipped control of the chamber.
He won reelection in 2018 and narrowly captured a second full term last year.
Lamb, in an interview prior to his official launch, highlighted his string of competitive House victories as a strength in the Senate race, and said hes running because hes grown frustrated by House-passed legislation that falls flat in the upper chamber.
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Lamb is seeking the nomination to replace outgoing GOP Sen. Pat Toomey.
*Lamb, a former Marine and federal prosecutor*, rose to political prominence three years ago when he beat a Donald Trump-backed Republican in a special election that foreshadowed the 2018 Democratic takeover of the House."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pennlive.com/news/2021/08/conor-lamb-announces-run-for-us-senate-joining-crowded-field-of-candidates.html%3foutputType=amp
Link to tweet
Conor Lamb, 37, joined the Marines via the Officer Candidates School after becoming a lawyer at 24. He prosecuted rape cases for the military & was appointed Asst. US attorney.
FETTERMAN:
John Fetterman, 51, was mayor of Braddock, PA (pop.1869) for 15y
No question who has spent his life building the most necessary creds, & well prepared to move the power goal posts in the Democratic side of the Senate.
BumRushDaShow
(169,747 posts)AND he was independently elected to that position in the primary, and has been in there since 2019. As Lt. Gov., he is automatically President of the state Senate (like Kamala Harris is for the U.S. Senate).
He has also been actively thwarting the loons here trying to overturn the election, in alliance with AG Josh Shapiro (who is rumored to be running for governor when that race comes up).
This is what President Obama showcased about him in his "Champions of Change" series - https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/champions/americorps-alums/john-fetterman-
Champions of Change
John Fetterman
John Fetterman was attracted to Braddock, PA by the town's tragic arc of history and malignant beauty. Founded around the site of Andrew Carnegie's first steel mill, Braddock's fortunes declined in lockstep with the American steel industry. As the town's population fell from a peak of more than 20,000 to just 2,300, its buildings, infrastructure and economy unraveled. With 90% of everything lost -population, buildings, homes, businesses- the challenges seemed insurmountable. John Fetterman, a Harvard graduate with a Master's Degree in Public Policy, moved to Braddock in 2001 to work with AmeriCorps. Four years later he became the town's mayor - winning the election by a single vote - and has been at the forefront of a massive effort to revitalize the once prosperous town ever since. In 2009, Fetterman won a second term by nearly a 3-1 margin. As of this writing, Braddock is in its 40th consecutive month without a homicide. A relentless advocate for reimagining and redesigning Braddock, Mayor Fetterman's focus on creating safer a safer, most just Braddock, youth-oriented programs, attracting artists and other 'creatives' to his community and to pursuing green urban renewal and economic development have been recognized in The New York Times, The Atlantic and The Guardian, and on CNBC, CNN, CBS News, The Colbert Report and Real Time with Bill Maher.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Lamb is the Democrat to beat. And they won't.
Just like OH-11
BumRushDaShow
(169,747 posts)and trying to compare Nina Turner's and Shontel Brown's Congressional special election race to a U.S. Senate race in PA goes beyond apples and oranges, and leaps into the territory of comparing apples and turnips.
Fetterman is not a Nina Turner and Lamb is sure as hell not a Shontel Brown.
Lamb has done nothing to court anyone in SE PA, which will guarantee a loss. It's why McGinty lost the last go-around despite being from this area. No one knew who the hell she was, despite her actually beating Fetterman in the primary that year for Toomey's seat in 2016.
The one thing politicos learn rather quickly is that you can't take Philly metro for granted. Biden knew that very well, which is why he made Philly his primary election HQ.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)All I could find was some very negative tweets and accusations against progressive Democrats, as is this post calling Fetterman a racist. Who are the people behind the name?
Budi
(15,325 posts)There's zero room to criticize.
JDEMWatch provides links, receipts & factchecks their statements.
It's not managed as a loosely opionated messaging center.
It's quite professionally run & proof of point is always expected & provided.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)I have been following the Justice Democrats and its predecessor for a while including the "brand new congress group" and other groups created by Cenk, Kyle Kulinksi and their ilk. I am on the Justice Democrat email list and I have even listened once or twice to the Justice Democrat podcast which is amusingly called "Just Us" democrats. The Justice Democrats emails are fun to laugh at and I love the hatred this group shows to the Democratic Party, establishment Democrats and best of all corporate democrats. The posts attacking the DCCC for raising money to elect real Democrats are really amusing.
I have been following number of posters on twitter who dislike the Justice Democrats including the poster in question. There are a large number posters on twitter who have issues with the concept of the Justice Democrat group wanting to take over the Democratic party and remake into their image. It seems that this poster is a regular democrat who does not want the Democratic Party to be taken over by the Justice Democrat group.
Link to tweet
This poster is not the only person who has issues with the concept that the Justice Democrats want to take over the Democratic Party
Link to tweet
Again the above posts are consistent with the hatred of the Democratic Party that I see on the almost daily emails that I get from the Justice Democrats.
If you want to learn more about the Justice Democrats just enter "Just Us Democrats" in the search function of twitter.
I am also on Fetterman's email list and he also seems to have issues with the mainstream Democratic party. I personally have always like Connor Lamb since he flipped a red district. Personally I am not going to support a candidate supported by the Justice Democrats if there is a real democrat in that race.
Budi
(15,325 posts)It's been quite clear since their formation pre-2015 and looking into who orginally formed their group, what their goal is.
It has never been to support the Democratic Party, but to completely dismantle it.
When learning of the backgrounds of those at the control switch, Democracy is not what they are after. None of them were ever Democrats to begin with, until conveniently around 2016.
By their own words & admissions, they have made no secret of their intent.
mcar
(46,056 posts)and some progressives object to them being referred to by that title?
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)mcar
(46,056 posts)Exactly!
Cha
(319,067 posts)JD's for Bashing the Dem Party.
Somebody has to watch them.. I'm grateful for them.
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lapucelle
(21,061 posts)Cha
(319,067 posts)have there!
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)This group really hates the Democratic Party and the DCCC. I am amused by the attacks on establishment Democrats and corporate democrats. These assholes really hate normal Democrats and want to destroy the Democratic Party to to remake the party in their image. These emails assume that everyone hates the regular Democratic Party and want to adopt their vision.
These emails are so bad that they are funny
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)Link to tweet
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LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)enough
(13,759 posts)3825-87867
(1,939 posts)Wasn't Lamb one of the "19" NEW DOG Freshmen who wanted to and voted to replace Pelosi?
Isn't that what the Republicans wanted?
MyOwnPeace
(17,552 posts)in his particular Congressional district - otherwise it would probably go red.
I'd MUCH prefer he stay where he is and we work to get Fetterman in the Senate.
3825-87867
(1,939 posts)He basically took over for Blue Dog Altmire (Big time person at UPMC Medical) in going Center Right for some in "nice neighborhoods" in this district.
I thought at the time he'd be ok but turned out he was initially much more Centrist. He HAS done some good things moving slightly Left, but I susupect it's more of to keep his constituents happy by the way THEY feel. Of course, that's supposedly his job.
Fetterman should win.
BumRushDaShow
(169,747 posts)He needs to stay in that seat. There is no one in the wings over on that side of the state who could be ready to step up and actually win.
Here in Philly, we have a fantastic firebrand ALSO running - Malcolm Kenyatta, who is currently in the state House. He brings it and doesn't hold back calling out the GOP loons in the state House. He has also appeared on a myriad of M$M programs. But HE ALSO needs to stay where he is in that position because we need a firebrand in there.
Fetterman's job as Lt. Governor is not really a critical position (aside from being an "Acting" as needed) and his push the past year of going "national" (with many appearances on M$M and a burning hot twitter feed), with a strong "left populist" agenda, is something that is a sight to behold. And given his white working class background and having a Brazilian wife, he has multicultural appeal.
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)PA-17, Lamb's district. He's running for Senate most probably because he knows his district will either be eliminated or he'll be matched against another incumbent like Mike Kelly of neighboring PA-16. His House reelection chances won't be real good.
Cha
(319,067 posts)Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)instead of Pelosi.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Fully knowing Pelosi would gain the final vote, his vote was a secure one either way.
They are friends & collegues.
Cha
(319,067 posts)whatever wins the seat.
Lots of "Nancy hate" in Swing States!
Plenty of it & she's aware of the target placed on her back & who put it there.
Pelosi is the epitiome of strength & resiliance in the face of adversity.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Pelosi was a sure win.
Lamb gave recognition to his friend & collegue.
Nothing wrong with that.
Checking past voting records, Legislators do it all the time as their vote doesn't influence the outcome.
As in the recent Fund the Capitol Poliice votes.
It is a statement for particular reasons.
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)Speaker Pelosi didn't need his vote and likely knew it. Her priority is holding on to the seat Lamb took from Republicans. ,
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-democrats-defy-odds-flip-republican-strongholds-blue/story?id=59033683
Hoped that helped to clear things up.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)and mainly focus on promoting their policies and vision. It's good for democracy to have choices in our primaries. Lamb has that mainstream look while Fetterman clearly looks more badass and rough around the edges.
Budi
(15,325 posts)And, of course the chatter of social media.
Accusations should be required to come with full disclosure of reciepts.
That would do a lot in preventing another OH-11
blue neen
(12,465 posts)The candidates should probably get out ahead of that.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Lambs announcement just upped the anti.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)Theyre men of integrity. I just hope it w be clear early on who w win & the loser bow out w dignity. One thing i've learned from Suni Lee's Hmong community: "Hmong must love Hmong. Who will love Hmong?". Look at the heights to which their love & communal support have propelled her to. I'll change it to "Dems must love Dems" as it's applicable. Dems need to stick together. We're on the verge of losong our democracy. No more infighting.
Budi
(15,325 posts)...the community of its wealth & purpose.
I wonder who they pillage for?
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)reasonable and willing to work with anyone.
What Fetterman doesn't do is suffer fools. That's when you get the "no holds barred" John Fetterman.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)empathy, experience as a successful community activist, skillful politicking, not to mention great intelligence and humble disposition, is exactly the temperament needed. He is tough when he needs to be. I'd like him to run for POTUS one day.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)He reminds me of one of my sons (a little bit).