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George II

(67,782 posts)
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:03 AM Aug 2021

Conor Lamb launching Senate bid in Pennsylvania

Source: Politico

Rep. Conor Lamb is launching his long-expected Senate bid in Pennsylvania Friday, joining the crowded Democratic field in a state that is critical for the party as it seeks to protect or expand its narrow Senate majority.

Lamb, 37, a Marine and former prosecutor, rose to prominence when he won a nationally-watched House special election in 2018 months before the party flipped control of the chamber. He won reelection in 2018 and narrowly captured a second full term last year. Lamb, in an interview prior to his official launch, highlighted his string of competitive House victories as a strength in the Senate race, and said he’s running because he’s grown frustrated by House-passed legislation that falls flat in the upper chamber.

“A single Senate seat in the Democratic column at this point would make a huge difference in our ability to get things done,” Lamb said. “I want to be part of that. I think the House campaigns that I've had — I ran three in a very short period of time that were very hard, that had [then-President Donald] Trump personally involved every time — and I think that has prepared me uniquely for this race.”

Pennsylvania is critical for Democrats’ Senate hopes in next year’s midterms. They are defending four vulnerable incumbents, all in states President Joe Biden carried, and are on offense in two Republican-held seats Biden won: Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. GOP Sen. Pat Toomey is retiring, and Republicans have a competitive primary to replace him.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/06/conor-lamb-senate-pennsylvania-502666



Announcement video:


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Conor Lamb launching Senate bid in Pennsylvania (Original Post) George II Aug 2021 OP
OFFS BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #1
He's likely to be re-districted away. Deminpenn Aug 2021 #14
We'll have to see BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #17
Lamb's been a target since he was surprise elected in Deminpenn Aug 2021 #26
The problem with that scenario BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #38
The lost seat is going to come from western PA Deminpenn Aug 2021 #48
Fetterman has serious baggage no matter how it's defended. Budi Aug 2021 #27
Sounds like talking points Deminpenn Aug 2021 #33
"A roadblock to Progressive agenda"? Budi Aug 2021 #40
Hardly Deminpenn Aug 2021 #49
For the 2021-2022 Session, Conor Lamb has a higher "progressive score" than two squad members: George II Aug 2021 #58
Except the House, where you are 1 of 435, is different Deminpenn Aug 2021 #62
what baggage? onetexan Aug 2021 #37
As I noted, the SE part of the state has the vast majority of votes in the state BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #39
Agree, Fetterman has it in the bag. Conor needs to stay put. onetexan Aug 2021 #36
Well. Sure. Of course Fetterman & Kenyatta didn't want Lamb to enter the race Budi Aug 2021 #41
Keep dreaming Deminpenn Aug 2021 #50
Fetterman will win this election ebbie15644 Aug 2021 #2
Based on what analysis? brooklynite Aug 2021 #3
He has no constituency in the primary Deminpenn Aug 2021 #18
"Sanders beat Clinton in the PA Dem primary in the small counties and rural part of Pennsylvania" brooklynite Aug 2021 #20
We have a closed primary system here Deminpenn Aug 2021 #24
I am from eastern Pa and Fetterman has my vote. The Jungle 1 Aug 2021 #10
Agree Deminpenn Aug 2021 #15
Nope. Without Lamb perhaps, but his chances just dropped. Budi Aug 2021 #28
Lamb is the more moderate of the two bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #4
There is sometimes a different outcome for Statehouse and Federal races. brooklynite Aug 2021 #16
Dem primary voters are more liberal generally Deminpenn Aug 2021 #22
Remind me how Senator Casey was nominated? brooklynite Aug 2021 #23
Senator Casey is an entirely different case Deminpenn Aug 2021 #25
Lamb's successful record speaks for itself. Budi Aug 2021 #29
That "Lizburgh" conveniently left out the fact that Fetterman is currently the Lt. Governor of PA BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #43
Well, go tell her. Budi Aug 2021 #44
Um... PA is not OH BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #45
Yeah-another real democrat running LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #5
Who is behind justicedemwatch? Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #8
Have you read the tweets from the other side of the 'Democratic' aisle? Budi Aug 2021 #30
TY! Cha Aug 2021 #57
I have been following the Justice Democrats for a while as has this poster and others LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #55
K & R Thank You! Budi Aug 2021 #60
Justice Democrats call their podcast "JustUs Democrats?" mcar Aug 2021 #63
I am amused by this also LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #64
"I know you are but what am I?" mcar Aug 2021 #66
Ha! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #73
JusticeDemWatch is calling OUT Cha Aug 2021 #56
I'm more interested in where Justice Democrats get their money. lapucelle Aug 2021 #67
TY! Cha Aug 2021 #69
Seek and ye shall find... lapucelle Aug 2021 #70
Great Motto you Cha Aug 2021 #71
I get almost daily emails from this group LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #74
I am not planning on supporting or contributing to candidates endorsed by any of these groups LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #75
Hakeem Jeffries is working with a group to oppose Justice Democrats LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #76
Wow Cha Aug 2021 #34
Good ad. NT enough Aug 2021 #6
HUH? 3825-87867 Aug 2021 #7
Lamb is the best we can get....... MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #11
Totally agree 3825-87867 Aug 2021 #12
EXACTLY! BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #13
PA is losing a seat and the most endangered one is Deminpenn Aug 2021 #21
TY for the info Cha Aug 2021 #35
Yes, he voted for Joe Kennedy III Deminpenn Aug 2021 #19
Good vote either way. Budi Aug 2021 #31
Exactly.. and I imagine Nancy approved of Cha Aug 2021 #59
Yup! Budi Aug 2021 #61
If that's all the baggage there is against Lamb, then Lamb will be the next Senator. Budi Aug 2021 #42
Speaker Pelosi protects her members. She's a consummate tactician. lapucelle Aug 2021 #68
I hope Lamb and Fetterman don't attack each other too much IronLionZion Aug 2021 #9
The bitter fight won't come from them but from those holding the power of endorsements Budi Aug 2021 #32
Ah yes. The chatter of social media. blue neen Aug 2021 #46
Indeed. However I'm betting the "messengers" are already gathering their ammo. Budi Aug 2021 #47
I dont see these 2 attacking each other onetexan Aug 2021 #51
That community functioned well, till the burn it all down sabatours & pirates arrivedd to loot... Budi Aug 2021 #52
huh? onetexan Aug 2021 #53
Fetterman isn't a bomb thrower. He's actually quite Deminpenn Aug 2021 #65
precisely, and why he is the best man for the job. His calm but practical, thoughtful demeanor, onetexan Aug 2021 #72
I'm all in favor of this. I like him a lot. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #54

BumRushDaShow

(169,747 posts)
1. OFFS
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:33 AM
Aug 2021

We need his seat in the House and Fetterman already has a good head start.

No one on this side of state where 1/3rd of the votes are located, knows who he is but they are aware of Fetterman's outreach here with his silly "Sheetz" vs "Wawa" stuff.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
14. He's likely to be re-districted away.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:23 PM
Aug 2021

I'm in his district and fully expect to be thrown in with Mike Kelly's district, PA-16. Think the Allegheny County part of the 17th will go to Doyle's 18th district.

BumRushDaShow

(169,747 posts)
17. We'll have to see
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:29 PM
Aug 2021

because from what I understand from early Census analysis, the population growth was on this side of the state, but it is a matter of what rural areas they consolidate.

We also have a different dynamic than 2010, with a (D) Governor and majority-(D) State Supreme Court, so attempts at extreme gerrymandering are going to really have some pushback with a lot more teeth than 10 years ago. The fact that the current lines were drawn by that state Supreme Court would probably be a baseline for what is to come - and it can't be as dramatic as the GOP probably envisions, although obviously since the state is losing a seat, someone's district is going to have to go away.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
26. Lamb's been a target since he was surprise elected in
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:23 PM
Aug 2021

the old PA-14.

If you look at the map, PA-17 is easy to eliminate. Just move Beaver County into PA-16 and the Allegheny County part to PA-18. That complies with the PA supreme court order not to split municipalities and to make compact districts. It eliminates a Dem seat which the Rs want and honestly reflects the political winds in western PA.

With Wolf as governor, he'll veto any crazily gerry-mandered map. Nordenberg's the 5th member and his career as an academic should also help tamp down the Rs trying to give themselves an outsize advantage.

I understand also that the redistricting process is going to allow citizen input as well as citizen generated maps. It's pretty much what FairdistrictsPA has been campaigning for except it's not an all citizen, non-partisan group doing the map drawing.

BumRushDaShow

(169,747 posts)
38. The problem with that scenario
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 07:46 PM
Aug 2021

is that the rural red county losses preclude an "automatic" elimination of a (D) seat given the bluing of the east.



They could fold PA-10 into PA-12 (since 10 was a close loss by DePasquale) or PA-10 into PA-9 (possibly with part of 10 into 11). Supposedly both Cumberland and Lebanon Counties in that area around Harrisburg had the fastest growth.



Whatever they decide, it'll be tied up in the courts and if anything, my worry is more with the state House/Senate seats, which are an absolute travesty of gerrymandering (even with the so-called "fixed version" which was still done under Corbett and the trifecta (R) government (Executive, Legislative, Judicial).

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
48. The lost seat is going to come from western PA
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:10 PM
Aug 2021

which is losing population. That's as it should be.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
27. Fetterman has serious baggage no matter how it's defended.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:28 PM
Aug 2021

We need the absolute most winnable candidate for this Senate seat.

Lamb's record is far superior & checks all the boxes for the position of the Senate.

Lamb, 37, a Marine and former prosecutor, rose to prominence when he won a nationally-watched House special election in 2018 months before the party flipped control of the chamber. He won reelection in 2018 and narrowly captured a second full term last year. Lamb, in an interview prior to his official launch, highlighted his string of competitive House victories as a strength in the Senate race, and said he’s running because he’s grown frustrated by House-passed legislation that falls flat in the upper chamber.

“A single Senate seat in the Democratic column at this point would make a huge difference in our ability to get things done,” Lamb said. “I want to be part of that. I think the House campaigns that I've had — I ran three in a very short period of time that were very hard, that had [then-President Donald] Trump personally involved every time — and I think that has prepared me uniquely for this race.”
****

He would be a formidable Senator & a Democratic allied aset to pull the balance in our favor.

He is loyal, experienced, baggage-free & reliable.
He has the absolute #1 shot at winning Toomey's seat against any Republucan they run against him.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
33. Sounds like talking points
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 05:24 PM
Aug 2021

Conor Lamb's service is as a JAG. Not saying that's not important, but it's a staff position, not a line one.

He is my congressman and completely milquetoast. I appreciate that he usually votes with Pelosi, but he is too conservative. He doesn't appeal to Republicans as is witnessed by him losing the vote in the Beaver county portion of his district both times he ran. Beaver County is full of the kind of voter to which Lamb claims to appeal, conservative Dems and blue collar union members.

I had a chance to meet Lamb and have a conversation with him a couple years ago. He certainly struck me as sincere and honest, but he will be a roadblock to a progressive agenda.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
49. Hardly
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:14 PM
Aug 2021

It's based on Lamb's public statements and actions. He sells himself as a moderate/centrist and determined to be "bipartisan". But maybe you like Manchin holding up Biden's agenda.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
62. Except the House, where you are 1 of 435, is different
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 07:03 PM
Aug 2021

from the Senate where you are 1 of 100 and have more ability to block legislation.

BumRushDaShow

(169,747 posts)
39. As I noted, the SE part of the state has the vast majority of votes in the state
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:17 PM
Aug 2021

and Lamb has made ZERO inroads here in SE PA.

We here would vote for any (D) but the problem would be a lethargic vote for Senate (if he managed to beat Fetterman, which is doubtful) because part of the last election law that brought us mail-in ballots also eliminated the "straight party voting" option.

Fetterman has a history of being born and raised in south central PA and serving as a mayor in western PA. I considered him like a younger, more vocal version of Tom Wolf because Wolf served in the Peace Corps as a young man and Fetterman served in the follow-on AmeriCorps as a young man. And his AmeriCorps work with young people is prime stuff for urban dwellers here. His legalization of marijuana efforts also cross over into some of the Libertarian voter interests, given that Libertarians make up a significant part of the electorate here and have enough votes to swing elections significantly (we saw that along with the Green Party back in 2016).

Fetterman was able to win a statewide race too, which is a critical test. And his role as Lt. Governor automatically makes him the President of the state Senate, so he has that experience as well (and he vehemently protested the idiot GOPers when they refused to seat a duly-elected Democrat in their tantrum to throw out votes for Sen. Jim Brewster, and eventually voted to remove him from the chamber).




TEXT

ryan cooper
@ryanlcooper
·
Jan 5, 2021
PA Senate Republicans just refused to seat a Democrat who narrowly won reelection and whose victory was confirmed by the PA Supreme Court
Pa. GOP senators refused to seat a Democrat and removed Lt. Gov. Fetterman from presiding
The new session of the Pennsylvania Senate got off to a chaotic start Tuesday, with Republicans refusing to seat a Democratic senator whose election victory has been certified by the state.
inquirer.com

The Recount
@therecount
Watch the wild video of @JohnFetterman being removed from the PA State Senate:
3:37 PM · Jan 5, 2021


And as a note - so far - the announced GOP candidates are almost all TFG loons, with one black woman thrown in for good measure.

If things stay that way, then whoever the (D) is will have a good chance if the turnout is there and they don't screw with the mail-in votes.
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
41. Well. Sure. Of course Fetterman & Kenyatta didn't want Lamb to enter the race
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:50 PM
Aug 2021

They both represent progressive/JDem backed orgs.

Lamb represents the Democratic Party.

I predict a repeat of OH-11.
With the similar outcome.

Lamb will win this race.
My opinion ..

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
18. He has no constituency in the primary
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:33 PM
Aug 2021

and is unknown outside of SW Pa. Lamb's my congressman. The only reason he beat Parnell was the voter's in the Allegheny County part of the 17th.

Fetterman is well-known across the state. He helped himself by holding many town hall type meetings in the small, rural counties to gauge the support for legalizing marijuana. These blue collar and rural Dem primary voters relate to Fetterman and they like his blunt, no BS style.

I have no doubt Fetterman will win western PA pretty easily. He'll be helped by Kenyatta, Arkoosh and Street splitting the SE Pa and Phila vote.

It's important to remember than in 2016, Sanders beat Clinton in the PA Dem primary in the small counties and rural part of Pennsylvania. They liked his economic populism message, the same platform Fetterman will run on. Fetterman will be a strong supporter of Biden's agenda. Lamb would be Joe Manchin redux.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
20. "Sanders beat Clinton in the PA Dem primary in the small counties and rural part of Pennsylvania"
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:41 PM
Aug 2021

But Clinton beat Sanders overall in 2016 and Biden beat Sanders overall in 2020.

I don't see Pennsylvania being that progressive Statewide.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
24. We have a closed primary system here
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:12 PM
Aug 2021

and this isn't a two person primary. While western PA has a shrinking population, it almost always votes in higher percentages than the much more populous eastern part of the state giving it more clout than it should have. Further, voters here tend to back "their own" which Fetterman is. That will lock down the western PA primary vote for Fetterman. Philadelphia/SE Pa will split its votes among Arkoosh, Kenyatta and Street. Fetterman is the only candidate who has met face-to-face with people in the small and rural counties across the state. Face-to-face contact is a huge advantage as voters tend to vote for candidates they've actually met.

Pennsylvania also elects its Gov and LtGov candidates seperately during the primaries. Here are the 2018 Lt Gov primary results with a similarly large and diverse candidate field: https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/Home/CountyBreakDownResults?officeId=4&districtId=1&ElectionID=63&ElectionType=P&IsActive=0

You can see Fetterman's strength in the small and rural counties of the "T" and in SW Pa.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
10. I am from eastern Pa and Fetterman has my vote.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 01:08 PM
Aug 2021

Did that balloon knot from texass ever pay off on the bet he made with Fetterman. Of course not. Low life repukes.

bucolic_frolic

(55,135 posts)
4. Lamb is the more moderate of the two
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:01 AM
Aug 2021

Moderates have not done well in recent PA statewide elections, but Lamb's suit and ties will play to conservative PA burbs and older voters. That's how he won his district races. I call this one for Fetterman, I really think he's unstoppable.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
25. Senator Casey is an entirely different case
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:15 PM
Aug 2021

The Casey family is iconic here. Sen Casey could be a senator for life. In fact, when another politician named Bob Casey, but not related, ran for office he won overwhelmingly.

Honestly, it's evident from your posts, your knowledge of the PA political landscape is limited.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
29. Lamb's successful record speaks for itself.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:53 PM
Aug 2021

Lamb's record is far superior & checks all the boxes for the position of the Senate.

Lamb, 37, a Marine and former prosecutor, rose to prominence when he won a nationally-watched House special election in 2018 months before the party flipped control of the chamber.
He won reelection in 2018 and narrowly captured a second full term last year.
Lamb, in an interview prior to his official launch, highlighted his string of competitive House victories as a strength in the Senate race, and said he’s running because he’s grown frustrated by House-passed legislation that falls flat in the upper chamber.

******

Lamb is seeking the nomination to replace outgoing GOP Sen. Pat Toomey.
*Lamb, a former Marine and federal prosecutor*, rose to political prominence three years ago when he beat a Donald Trump-backed Republican in a special election that foreshadowed the 2018 Democratic takeover of the House."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pennlive.com/news/2021/08/conor-lamb-announces-run-for-us-senate-joining-crowded-field-of-candidates.html%3foutputType=amp




Conor Lamb, 37, joined the Marines via the Officer Candidates School after becoming a lawyer at 24. He prosecuted rape cases for the military & was appointed Asst. US attorney.

FETTERMAN:
John Fetterman, 51, was mayor of Braddock, PA (pop.1869) for 15y

No question who has spent his life building the most necessary creds, & well prepared to move the power goal posts in the Democratic side of the Senate.


BumRushDaShow

(169,747 posts)
43. That "Lizburgh" conveniently left out the fact that Fetterman is currently the Lt. Governor of PA
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:14 PM
Aug 2021


AND he was independently elected to that position in the primary, and has been in there since 2019. As Lt. Gov., he is automatically President of the state Senate (like Kamala Harris is for the U.S. Senate).

He has also been actively thwarting the loons here trying to overturn the election, in alliance with AG Josh Shapiro (who is rumored to be running for governor when that race comes up).

This is what President Obama showcased about him in his "Champions of Change" series - https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/champions/americorps-alums/john-fetterman-

Home • AmeriCorps Alums • John fetterman

Champions of Change



John Fetterman

John Fetterman was attracted to Braddock, PA by the town's tragic arc of history and malignant beauty. Founded around the site of Andrew Carnegie's first steel mill, Braddock's fortunes declined in lockstep with the American steel industry. As the town's population fell from a peak of more than 20,000 to just 2,300, its buildings, infrastructure and economy unraveled. With 90% of everything lost -population, buildings, homes, businesses- the challenges seemed insurmountable. John Fetterman, a Harvard graduate with a Master's Degree in Public Policy, moved to Braddock in 2001 to work with AmeriCorps. Four years later he became the town's mayor - winning the election by a single vote - and has been at the forefront of a massive effort to revitalize the once prosperous town ever since. In 2009, Fetterman won a second term by nearly a 3-1 margin. As of this writing, Braddock is in its 40th consecutive month without a homicide. A relentless advocate for reimagining and redesigning Braddock, Mayor Fetterman's focus on creating safer a safer, most just Braddock, youth-oriented programs, attracting artists and other 'creatives' to his community and to pursuing green urban renewal and economic development have been recognized in The New York Times, The Atlantic and The Guardian, and on CNBC, CNN, CBS News, The Colbert Report and Real Time with Bill Maher.

BumRushDaShow

(169,747 posts)
45. Um... PA is not OH
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:45 PM
Aug 2021

and trying to compare Nina Turner's and Shontel Brown's Congressional special election race to a U.S. Senate race in PA goes beyond apples and oranges, and leaps into the territory of comparing apples and turnips.

Fetterman is not a Nina Turner and Lamb is sure as hell not a Shontel Brown.

Lamb has done nothing to court anyone in SE PA, which will guarantee a loss. It's why McGinty lost the last go-around despite being from this area. No one knew who the hell she was, despite her actually beating Fetterman in the primary that year for Toomey's seat in 2016.

The one thing politicos learn rather quickly is that you can't take Philly metro for granted. Biden knew that very well, which is why he made Philly his primary election HQ.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
8. Who is behind justicedemwatch?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:40 PM
Aug 2021

All I could find was some very negative tweets and accusations against progressive Democrats, as is this post calling Fetterman a racist. Who are the people behind the name?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
30. Have you read the tweets from the other side of the 'Democratic' aisle?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:59 PM
Aug 2021

There's zero room to criticize.

JDEMWatch provides links, receipts & factchecks their statements.
It's not managed as a loosely opionated messaging center.
It's quite professionally run & proof of point is always expected & provided.



LetMyPeopleVote

(179,847 posts)
55. I have been following the Justice Democrats for a while as has this poster and others
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:28 PM
Aug 2021

I have been following the Justice Democrats and its predecessor for a while including the "brand new congress group" and other groups created by Cenk, Kyle Kulinksi and their ilk. I am on the Justice Democrat email list and I have even listened once or twice to the Justice Democrat podcast which is amusingly called "Just Us" democrats. The Justice Democrats emails are fun to laugh at and I love the hatred this group shows to the Democratic Party, establishment Democrats and best of all corporate democrats. The posts attacking the DCCC for raising money to elect real Democrats are really amusing.

I have been following number of posters on twitter who dislike the Justice Democrats including the poster in question. There are a large number posters on twitter who have issues with the concept of the Justice Democrat group wanting to take over the Democratic party and remake into their image. It seems that this poster is a regular democrat who does not want the Democratic Party to be taken over by the Justice Democrat group.



This poster is not the only person who has issues with the concept that the Justice Democrats want to take over the Democratic Party


Again the above posts are consistent with the hatred of the Democratic Party that I see on the almost daily emails that I get from the Justice Democrats.

If you want to learn more about the Justice Democrats just enter "Just Us Democrats" in the search function of twitter.

I am also on Fetterman's email list and he also seems to have issues with the mainstream Democratic party. I personally have always like Connor Lamb since he flipped a red district. Personally I am not going to support a candidate supported by the Justice Democrats if there is a real democrat in that race.
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
60. K & R Thank You!
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 06:43 PM
Aug 2021

It's been quite clear since their formation pre-2015 and looking into who orginally formed their group, what their goal is.
It has never been to support the Democratic Party, but to completely dismantle it.

When learning of the backgrounds of those at the control switch, Democracy is not what they are after. None of them were ever Democrats to begin with, until conveniently around 2016.

By their own words & admissions, they have made no secret of their intent.


mcar

(46,056 posts)
63. Justice Democrats call their podcast "JustUs Democrats?"
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 07:09 PM
Aug 2021

and some progressives object to them being referred to by that title?

Cha

(319,067 posts)
56. JusticeDemWatch is calling OUT
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:53 PM
Aug 2021

JD's for Bashing the Dem Party.

Somebody has to watch them.. I'm grateful for them.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
67. I'm more interested in where Justice Democrats get their money.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 08:23 PM
Aug 2021
Hopefully the cash doesn't come from billionaires, especially not billionaires who are big pharma/health care industry moguls.

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https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/justice-democrats/C00630665/donors/2020

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Who is the man with the deep pockets? A big pharma/healthcare industry billionaire.

Charles Dunlop
President/Founder, Ambry Genetics Corp

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CqjAJMf0i8oJ:https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/19712686+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1-d

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Ambry Genetics founder Charles Dunlop dumps $20 million cash on a Malibu cottage

https://www.dirt.com/moguls/power-players/charles-dunlop-house-malibu-point-dume-12491/

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- "When is it OK to take money from big pharma billionaires?

-"When it's us. But just us".

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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,847 posts)
74. I get almost daily emails from this group
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 09:29 AM
Aug 2021

This group really hates the Democratic Party and the DCCC. I am amused by the attacks on establishment Democrats and corporate democrats. These assholes really hate normal Democrats and want to destroy the Democratic Party to to remake the party in their image. These emails assume that everyone hates the regular Democratic Party and want to adopt their vision.

These emails are so bad that they are funny

3825-87867

(1,939 posts)
7. HUH?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:34 PM
Aug 2021

Wasn't Lamb one of the "19" NEW DOG Freshmen who wanted to and voted to replace Pelosi?

Isn't that what the Republicans wanted?

MyOwnPeace

(17,552 posts)
11. Lamb is the best we can get.......
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 01:20 PM
Aug 2021

in his particular Congressional district - otherwise it would probably go red.
I'd MUCH prefer he stay where he is and we work to get Fetterman in the Senate.

3825-87867

(1,939 posts)
12. Totally agree
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 01:39 PM
Aug 2021

He basically took over for Blue Dog Altmire (Big time person at UPMC Medical) in going Center Right for some in "nice neighborhoods" in this district.
I thought at the time he'd be ok but turned out he was initially much more Centrist. He HAS done some good things moving slightly Left, but I susupect it's more of to keep his constituents happy by the way THEY feel. Of course, that's supposedly his job.

Fetterman should win.

BumRushDaShow

(169,747 posts)
13. EXACTLY!
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:21 PM
Aug 2021

He needs to stay in that seat. There is no one in the wings over on that side of the state who could be ready to step up and actually win.

Here in Philly, we have a fantastic firebrand ALSO running - Malcolm Kenyatta, who is currently in the state House. He brings it and doesn't hold back calling out the GOP loons in the state House. He has also appeared on a myriad of M$M programs. But HE ALSO needs to stay where he is in that position because we need a firebrand in there.

Fetterman's job as Lt. Governor is not really a critical position (aside from being an "Acting" as needed) and his push the past year of going "national" (with many appearances on M$M and a burning hot twitter feed), with a strong "left populist" agenda, is something that is a sight to behold. And given his white working class background and having a Brazilian wife, he has multicultural appeal.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
21. PA is losing a seat and the most endangered one is
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:43 PM
Aug 2021

PA-17, Lamb's district. He's running for Senate most probably because he knows his district will either be eliminated or he'll be matched against another incumbent like Mike Kelly of neighboring PA-16. His House reelection chances won't be real good.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
31. Good vote either way.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:02 PM
Aug 2021

Fully knowing Pelosi would gain the final vote, his vote was a secure one either way.

They are friends & collegues.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
59. Exactly.. and I imagine Nancy approved of
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 06:41 PM
Aug 2021

whatever wins the seat.

Lots of "Nancy hate" in Swing States!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
61. Yup!
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 06:46 PM
Aug 2021

Plenty of it & she's aware of the target placed on her back & who put it there.

Pelosi is the epitiome of strength & resiliance in the face of adversity.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
42. If that's all the baggage there is against Lamb, then Lamb will be the next Senator.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:58 PM
Aug 2021

Pelosi was a sure win.
Lamb gave recognition to his friend & collegue.
Nothing wrong with that.
Checking past voting records, Legislators do it all the time as their vote doesn't influence the outcome.

As in the recent Fund the Capitol Poliice votes.
It is a statement for particular reasons.




lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
68. Speaker Pelosi protects her members. She's a consummate tactician.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 08:42 PM
Aug 2021

Speaker Pelosi didn't need his vote and likely knew it. Her priority is holding on to the seat Lamb took from Republicans. ,

In Pennsylvania, two incumbents -- one a three-term Republican and the other a Democrat who won a special election earlier this year -- battled for the recently redistricted 17th congressional district. Rep. Conor Lamb successfully unseated three-term Republican Rep. Keith Rothfus in the race.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-democrats-defy-odds-flip-republican-strongholds-blue/story?id=59033683

Hoped that helped to clear things up.


IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
9. I hope Lamb and Fetterman don't attack each other too much
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:42 PM
Aug 2021

and mainly focus on promoting their policies and vision. It's good for democracy to have choices in our primaries. Lamb has that mainstream look while Fetterman clearly looks more badass and rough around the edges.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
32. The bitter fight won't come from them but from those holding the power of endorsements
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:06 PM
Aug 2021

And, of course the chatter of social media.

Accusations should be required to come with full disclosure of reciepts.

That would do a lot in preventing another OH-11

blue neen

(12,465 posts)
46. Ah yes. The chatter of social media.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:46 PM
Aug 2021

The candidates should probably get out ahead of that.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
47. Indeed. However I'm betting the "messengers" are already gathering their ammo.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:00 PM
Aug 2021

Lambs announcement just upped the anti.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
51. I dont see these 2 attacking each other
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 03:49 AM
Aug 2021

Theyre men of integrity. I just hope it w be clear early on who w win & the loser bow out w dignity. One thing i've learned from Suni Lee's Hmong community: "Hmong must love Hmong. Who will love Hmong?". Look at the heights to which their love & communal support have propelled her to. I'll change it to "Dems must love Dems" as it's applicable. Dems need to stick together. We're on the verge of losong our democracy. No more infighting.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
52. That community functioned well, till the burn it all down sabatours & pirates arrivedd to loot...
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 07:35 AM
Aug 2021

...the community of its wealth & purpose.

I wonder who they pillage for?

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
65. Fetterman isn't a bomb thrower. He's actually quite
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 07:11 PM
Aug 2021

reasonable and willing to work with anyone.

What Fetterman doesn't do is suffer fools. That's when you get the "no holds barred" John Fetterman.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
72. precisely, and why he is the best man for the job. His calm but practical, thoughtful demeanor,
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 02:11 AM
Aug 2021

empathy, experience as a successful community activist, skillful politicking, not to mention great intelligence and humble disposition, is exactly the temperament needed. He is tough when he needs to be. I'd like him to run for POTUS one day.

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