Major study of Ivermectin, the anti-vaccine crowd's latest COVID drug, finds 'no effect whatsoever'
Source: LA Times
Ivermectin, the latest supposed treatment for COVID-19 being touted by anti-vaccination groups, had no effect whatsoever on the disease, according to a large patient study.
Thats the conclusion of the Together Trial, which has subjected several purported nonvaccine treatments for COVID-19 to carefully designed clinical testing. The trial is supervised by McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada, and conducted in Brazil.
One of the trials principal investigators, Edward Mills of McMaster, presented the results from the Ivermectin arms of the study at an Aug. 6 symposium sponsored by the National Institutes of Health.
Among the 1,500 patients in the study, he said, Ivermectin showed no effect whatsoever on the trials outcome goals whether patients required extended observation in the emergency room or hospitalization.
In our specific trial, he said, we do not see the treatment benefit that a lot of the advocates believe should have been seen.
Read more: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-11/ivermectin-no-effect-covid
Ocelot II
(130,528 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Almost.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)The concept of controls and proper scientific methodology were used https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-11/ivermectin-no-effect-covid
The problem, however, is that the scientific trials cited by Ivermectin advocates have been too small or poorly documented to prove their case. One large trial from Egypt that showed the most significant therapeutic effect was withdrawn from its publishers due to accusations of plagiarism and bogus data.
Nevertheless, the advocates have continued to press their case without necessarily observing accepted standards of scientific discourse. During the symposium, Mills complained that serious researchers looking into claims for COVID treatments have faced unprecedented abuse from advocates.....
Mills said that his teams Ivermectin trial was altered after advocacy groups complained that it was too modest to achieve the results they expected. The trial originally tested the results from a single Ivermectin dose in January this year, but was later changed to involve one daily dose for three days of 400 micrograms of the drug for every kilogram (about 2.2 pounds) of the patients weight, up to 90 kilograms.
Half the subjects received a placebo tablet. No clinical results were detected at either dosage, Mills said.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)You can't trust these lying scientists.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)speak easy
(12,598 posts)IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)Conservatives prefer alternative reality
Warpy
(114,615 posts)That shit's got some hairy side effects. They'll be broken out with itchy spots while every joint and muscle screams in pain.
It will stop them from having the ambition to overthrow the government...or even go to the supermarket for the sole purpose of giving the clerks shit over wearing masks as store policy.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)Warpy
(114,615 posts)Yes, these dupes are ignoring their doctors and getting all their medical advice from anonymous ranters on Farcebook.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)and many other RW blogs, radio hosts, social media videos, etc. Conservatives feel a lot of false confidence when they share this nonsense. They'll even have some unlicensed quack put on a white lab coat and pretend to be a qualified medical professional.
Apparently deep state doesn't want actual doctors to share these juicy secrets with their conservative patients because of nefarious reasons.
dalton99a
(94,115 posts)PatrickforB
(15,425 posts)treatment and that one, everything from bleach to this ivermectin, when you could just roll up your sleeve and get a shot of vaccine.
But hey, Sturgis is the next superspreader, this time of the Delta variant...
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)We're well past these bogus and dangerous "remedies" touted by TFG, we have the vaccines now which we know are effective - and getting the shot won't kill you while drinking bleach will.
Lonestarblue
(13,479 posts)The fact that they refuse a vaccine used safely by millions of people around the world because it might hurt them but then ingest all manner of other drugs and veterinary medicines to prevent Covid says that their refusal is political. They refuse to get vaccinated because they do not want to give Biden a win in getting as much of the country vaccinated as possible.
I understand supporting your political beliefs, but I will never understand doing stupid crap like this that can physically harm you. If any Democratic politician I admire publicly stated that gargling bleach would cure a sore throat, I would be questioning that persons sanitynot going out and buying bleach! I really do not understand this level of blind obedience to politics.
George II
(67,782 posts)....to distribute to his caucus. They're full of worms.
ShazzieB
(22,582 posts)I just googled, because I had no idea what it was. And now that I do know, I'm baffled. This stuff kills parasites, not viruses. Absolutely, totally different things. I wonder how this one even got started. It just seems so random!
George II
(67,782 posts)Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)
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LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)Those taking it let us know how fucking stupid they are.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,697 posts)Trump swears by it.
Sgent
(5,858 posts)Link to tweet
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LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)world-creation.
reACTIONary
(7,162 posts)... seems ethically dubious. There should be a good, solid reason to expect success before subjecting people to such a trial.