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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,713 posts)
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:20 PM Aug 2021

Chris Wallace Confronts Pompeo: Do You Regret Giving Taliban 'Legitimacy'?

Source: The Daily Beast

Amid the widespread criticism that’s been thrown at the Biden administration over the collapse of Afghanistan following the withdrawal of American troops, Fox News anchor Chris Wallace kept it fair and balanced on Sunday morning when he confronted former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo over his own record of legitimizing and emboldening the Taliban.

With the Taliban essentially taking over the entire country in a matter of a few short weeks and the Afghan president fleeing the country after the group surrounded the capital of Kabul, Pompeo appeared on Fox News Sunday to blast President Joe Biden for supposedly folding to the Taliban.

“It looks like the Biden administration has just failed in its execution of its own plan,” the former Trump secretary of state said. “It looks like they are now trying to get folks out. This reminds me of when we have seen previous administrations allow embassies to be overrun, it’s starting to feel that way. It also looks like there’s a bit of panic having to reinsert soldiers to get them out.”

-snip-

Airing a clip of Pompeo last year saying the Taliban would “work alongside us to destroy” Al Qaeda, Wallace pointedly asked the former secretary: “Do you regret giving the Taliban that legitimacy? Do you regret pressing the Afghan government to release 5,000 prisoners, which they did, some of whom are now back on the battlefield fighting with the Taliban?”

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chris-wallace-confronts-pompeo-do-you-regret-giving-taliban-legitimacy/ar-AANlvZh?li=BBnb7Kz

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Chris Wallace Confronts Pompeo: Do You Regret Giving Taliban 'Legitimacy'? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 OP
Well his question is a good one bevause Pas-de-Calais Aug 2021 #1
We should NOT lay this all on Biden. calimary Aug 2021 #3
Yes, but when you inherit something that doesn't mean you are going to make bad decisions with it, Escurumbele Aug 2021 #7
You are so wrong. It was put "bad decisions". It was bad intelligence. According to military Dream Girl Aug 2021 #10
Thanks. Facts matter. Unfortunately, MSM is stirring and smearing with no actual concern emmaverybo Aug 2021 #29
Americans don't care about Afghanistan. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #17
Amongst other dumb shit, Pompeo said the Democrats are fixated on CRT. Marcuse Aug 2021 #2
Sorry but, what is CRT??? Escurumbele Aug 2021 #9
See? You proved Pompeo wrong right there. Marcuse Aug 2021 #18
When I read "CRT" PatSeg Aug 2021 #24
As I suggested to BartCop about 18 years ago: rickyhall Aug 2021 #4
That 3 trillion Mz Pip Aug 2021 #8
I'm sure the Republicans would say that most of that money went to the workers in the plants. marie999 Aug 2021 #28
I miss Bartcop. RIP Demnation Aug 2021 #15
me too RIP BC blueseas Aug 2021 #19
Biden didn't fold on shit ! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #5
An error in thinking. H2O Man Aug 2021 #6
They respect power and by negotiating with them and bypassing the Afghan government, they Dream Girl Aug 2021 #11
Pompeo insisted that ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #12
Those miserable weasels (on their best day) left a very toxic poisong pill behind. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #14
As I recall, they were invited. Trump can celled at the last minute rpannier Aug 2021 #21
IIRC, the invitation to meet was scheduled Deminpenn Aug 2021 #22
Thanks rpannier Aug 2021 #25
Here's a link to the story about the planned meeting with the Taliban CBHagman Aug 2021 #26
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2021 #13
Chris Wallace is holding his own bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #16
That is a good question rpannier Aug 2021 #20
Great, but it won't make it any difference ... Auggie Aug 2021 #23
Once again... Quanto Magnus Aug 2021 #27
This. emmaverybo Aug 2021 #30

Pas-de-Calais

(10,285 posts)
1. Well his question is a good one bevause
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 03:17 PM
Aug 2021

09/2020 #45 and his Sec State released 5000 taliban from prison as a condition during “peace talks” with the Taliban. Release gave 3 month cease fire. Art of the Deal. ALL smart people said NO!
Payment for deal going on this week

calimary

(90,021 posts)
3. We should NOT lay this all on Biden.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 03:46 PM
Aug 2021

Last edited Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:44 AM - Edit history (1)

He inherited yet another huge pile of shit left all over the floor from the trumpers.

And let’s not forget george w. bush. The guy who GOT US INTO this mess to begin with. We went INTO that Hell hole on his watch, on his decision, and on his command.

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
7. Yes, but when you inherit something that doesn't mean you are going to make bad decisions with it,
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:13 PM
Aug 2021

Its like the kid who inherits a million dollars, spends it all in one year and then he is broke for the rest of his life.

I don't think the consequences of a fast withdrawal were well thought out, anyone could have seen what was going to happen. When it was announced I thought it was a bad idea to have such a short time table, not only have we left behind thousands of people who helped the troops, but the entire country is now slaves of the Taliban.

Yes, we inherited the mess, but it is up to the administration to make good decisions, I am convinced this is going to bite Biden, let us not forget he voted in favour of the invasion, the going in there is part his, the going out was all his and should have been done with a thorough and detailed plan to avoid what is happening now, not only for the people there, but for his political legacy. This is going to give so many talking points to the republicans that even Liz Cheney, whose father is responsible for the mess, is making comments.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
10. You are so wrong. It was put "bad decisions". It was bad intelligence. According to military
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:31 PM
Aug 2021

the Expectation was that the Afghan military would hold off the Taliban for 18 months. No one saw the military giving up and melting away like it did. The Afghan military was totally corrupt. They took our money but had no commitment to the mission. They left the troops on the ground will no food and no air cover. When the Taliban rolled though, they didn’t resist and some actually joined up with them. They gave the Taliban arms and equipment. Nice arm chair quarterbacking though.

emmaverybo

(8,148 posts)
29. Thanks. Facts matter. Unfortunately, MSM is stirring and smearing with no actual concern
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:57 AM
Aug 2021

for any of the players.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
17. Americans don't care about Afghanistan.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 05:27 PM
Aug 2021

Unless we have a scene where Americans are getting executed, this won’t affect Biden’s popularity.

Escurumbele

(4,094 posts)
9. Sorry but, what is CRT???
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:14 PM
Aug 2021

I see, "Critical race theory"...is it that hard to just type it out?

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
24. When I read "CRT"
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:28 AM
Aug 2021

I picture a computer screen. It is getting to the point where people will abbreviate anything and everything. I'm rather fond of words myself.

rickyhall

(5,509 posts)
4. As I suggested to BartCop about 18 years ago:
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 03:55 PM
Aug 2021

The US could have gone in the back door to Afghanistan, utterly destroyed Bin Laden and his terrorists and been done with it. Nothing was accomplished for the US but make the warmongers richer. Iraq was totally fucked up for no good reason and Afghanistan will end up just like it was. Bush, etc. blew $3T for nothing.

Mz Pip

(28,454 posts)
8. That 3 trillion
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:14 PM
Aug 2021

went to defense contractors. They made a bundle with this war. And if the Taliban was able to take over in a matter of weeks then they didn't do a very good job.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
28. I'm sure the Republicans would say that most of that money went to the workers in the plants.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:59 PM
Aug 2021
 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
5. Biden didn't fold on shit !
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 03:56 PM
Aug 2021

MIKEY POMPOUS making the Taliban's look good ! how's that woking out for ya MIKEY ! fat pos !



H2O Man

(79,052 posts)
6. An error in thinking.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:00 PM
Aug 2021

The US can not "give" them legitimacy. Nor can the US deny them legitimacy.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
11. They respect power and by negotiating with them and bypassing the Afghan government, they
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:36 PM
Aug 2021

We’re indeed given legitimacy. They were even going to bring them to friggin Camp David.saner minds prevailed, but the die was cast.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
12. Pompeo insisted that ...
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:57 PM
Aug 2021

Pompeo insisted that the Taliban would not “run free and wild in Afghanistan” if he and former President Donald Trump were still in office.

Weren't the Taliban Trump's guests at Camp David?
How'd that work out?

It ended in the deal Biden inherited from Trump.

rpannier

(24,924 posts)
21. As I recall, they were invited. Trump can celled at the last minute
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:21 AM
Aug 2021

From what I can find, it's not clear why.
Likely pressure from Congress because the Taliban hadn't done anything they had promised they'd do
No matter why, it was pretty stupid to invite when they hadn't shown any signs to commit to their side of the bargain and then to cancel at the last minute is also kind of dumb

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
22. IIRC, the invitation to meet was scheduled
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:52 AM
Aug 2021

on or near the anniversay of 9/11. It was cancelled because the "optics" would have been awful. Of course Trump didn't notice or care about the date since it was all designed around his insatiable ego, but lucky for him, his advisors did.

CBHagman

(17,493 posts)
26. Here's a link to the story about the planned meeting with the Taliban
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 08:15 AM
Aug 2021
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/09/08/trump-calls-off-secret-camp-david-meeting-with-taliban-afghan-leaders/

President Donald Trump said Saturday he canceled a secret weekend meeting at Camp David with Taliban and Afghanistan leaders after a bombing in the past week in Kabul that killed 12 people, including an American soldier, and has called off peace negotiations with the insurgent group.


Trump’s tweet was surprising because it would mean that the president was ready to host members of the Taliban at the presidential retreat in Maryland just days before the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. More than 2,400 U.S. troops have been killed since the U.S. invaded Afghanistan to go after the Taliban, which were harboring al-Qaida leaders responsible for 9/11.

Canceling the talks also goes against Trump’s pledge to withdraw the remaining 13,000 to 14,000 U.S. troops from Afghanistan and close U.S. involvement in the conflict that is closing in on 18 years.

bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
16. Chris Wallace is holding his own
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 05:26 PM
Aug 2021

and surely his dad would be proud. It came out after his dad passed, he was a Republican. So was Bill Hewitt. It never interfered with their journalism as far as I could tell.

Auggie

(33,150 posts)
23. Great, but it won't make it any difference ...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:05 AM
Aug 2021

anything that happened vis-à-vis with TFG and the Taliban will be covered over with lies in the months and years to come. Repukes scored major campaign fodder for 2022 and 2024.

Quanto Magnus

(1,347 posts)
27. Once again...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:31 PM
Aug 2021

Dems are cleaning up the mess made by Republicons.....

Then the GQP blame Dems for the mess....

Dems need to drive this hope every time they are out talking to people..... but they don't.... and then wonder why Dem voters are always so demoralized and don't show up to vote.

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