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riversedge

(70,093 posts)
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:20 AM Aug 2021

Florida changed its COVID-19 data, creating an 'artificial decline' in recent deaths

Source: Miami Herald



August 31, 2021 10:12 AM

As the delta variant spreads through Florida, data published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggest this could be the most serious and deadly surge in COVID-19 infections since the beginning of the pandemic.

As cases ballooned in August, however, the Florida Department of Health changed the way it reported death data to the CDC, giving the appearance of a pandemic in decline, an analysis of Florida data by the Miami Herald and el Nuevo Herald found.

On Monday, Florida death data would have shown an average of 262 daily deaths reported to the CDC over the previous week had the health department used its former reporting system, the Herald analysis showed. Instead, the Monday update from Florida showed just 46 “new deaths” per day over the previous seven days.

The dramatic difference is due to a small change in the fine print. Until three weeks ago, data collected by DOH and published on the CDC website counted deaths by the date they were recorded — a common method for producing daily stats used by most states. On Aug. 10, Florida switched its methodology and, along with just a handful of other states, began to tally new deaths by the date the person died.

If you chart deaths by Florida’s new method, based on date of death, it will generally appear — even during a spike like the present — that deaths are on a recent downslope. That’s because it takes time for deaths to be evaluated and death certificates processed. When those deaths finally are tallied, they are assigned to the actual data of death — creating a spike where there once existed a downslope and moving the downslope forward in time.

Shivani Patel, a social epidemiologist and assistant professor at Emory University called the move “extremely problematic,” especially since it came without warning or explanation during a rise in cases....................................................................................

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“As cases ballooned in August, however, the Florida Department of Health changed the way it reported death data to the CDC, giving the appearance of a pandemic in decline, an analysis of Florida data by the Miami Herald and el Nuevo Herald found.”


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Aerial view shows cars lining up at Tropical Park’s COVID-19 testing site in Miami, Florida on Friday, July 30, 2021.


COVID-19 Deaths reporting delays can distort trends for weeks

It often takes weeks after someone dies of COVID-19 for that death certificate to be processed and reflected in death data published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As a result, deaths reported by date of death will initially appear to decline, even if more people are dying each day, because data are incomplete.
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COVID-19 death data used in this chart were downloaded from the CDC on Aug. 26, Aug. 23, Aug. 17 and Aug. 10, 2021. The CDC confirmed these data are reported by date the death occurred.
Chart: Sarah Blaskey and Ana Claudia Chacin Source: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Get the data

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Florida changed its COVID-19 data, creating an 'artificial decline' in recent deaths (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2021 OP
Well, it does make sense to attribute deaths to the day a patient passes...... groundloop Aug 2021 #1
What a surprise! ananda Aug 2021 #2
Incredible that CDC hasn't implemented a standardized reporting protocol, especially JudyM Aug 2021 #3
I agree. The pandemic has shown that the CDC lacks something Tomconroy Aug 2021 #4
Not only the CDC. Our decentralized health system also showed major weaknesses. Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #7
"states whose ability to collect numbers vary a lot" PSPS Aug 2021 #21
Maybe so, gab13by13 Aug 2021 #12
Reporting is mandated, so the definition of what is being reported should be precise JudyM Aug 2021 #16
Agreed. Standardized reporting protocols, standardized response protocols, crickets Aug 2021 #22
I'm sure ALL rethuglicon Gov. states are LYING their ass's off bluestarone Aug 2021 #5
+1 2naSalit Aug 2021 #18
Florida has more daily deaths now than last summer IronLionZion Aug 2021 #6
This is just a dress rehearsal for the future counting of votes in Florida. bullwinkle428 Aug 2021 #8
Excellent point Auggie Aug 2021 #9
DeathSantis copying an old playbook ... BlueWavePsych Aug 2021 #10
This is a BFD gab13by13 Aug 2021 #11
Paging Rebekah Jones! apnu Aug 2021 #13
Yes. Didn't she get arrested for something related to that also? llmart Aug 2021 #15
Not holding my breath until media in my area (N FL) picks up on this and gives it much air time. dameatball Aug 2021 #14
hmmm, somebody somewhere mis-spelled "coverup"... bringthePaine Aug 2021 #17
Crimes against humanity. 2naSalit Aug 2021 #19
Quelle surprise Jimbo S Aug 2021 #20
I understand the difficulty in reliably collecting and comparing data but this is beyond infuriating cadoman Aug 2021 #23
but all covid deaths in Florida are still eventually reported, right? truthisfreedom Sep 2021 #24

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
1. Well, it does make sense to attribute deaths to the day a patient passes......
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:24 AM
Aug 2021

However, I certainly wouldn't put it bast DeSatan to be manipulating this to make it look better than it is.

JudyM

(29,206 posts)
3. Incredible that CDC hasn't implemented a standardized reporting protocol, especially
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:33 AM
Aug 2021

in light of Covid.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
4. I agree. The pandemic has shown that the CDC lacks something
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:40 AM
Aug 2021

That it needs: reliable data. They seem to rely on the states whose ability to collect numbers vary a lot.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
7. Not only the CDC. Our decentralized health system also showed major weaknesses.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:47 AM
Aug 2021

The fact that people initially had so much trouble getting vaccine appointments was just crazy.

And another major weakness has been the states that have yet to disburse the federal money for landlords to prevent evictions. Most of that money is still with the states, both red and blue. It seems they don’t have a mechanism for reaching the right people. Meanwhile, landlords are tired of waiting and evicting people.

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
21. "states whose ability to collect numbers vary a lot"
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 03:30 PM
Aug 2021

More accurately, "states whose willingness to collect numbers vary a lot." Not surprisingly, it's MAGA states that always fudge or resist revealing the truth.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
12. Maybe so,
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 12:22 PM
Aug 2021

but this has nothing to do with the CDC, this is a deliberate act by DeSantis to hide Covid infections and deaths.

JudyM

(29,206 posts)
16. Reporting is mandated, so the definition of what is being reported should be precise
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 01:34 PM
Aug 2021

particularly since the timing of trends is a critical epidemiological issue. “Death, as measured by x” is simple to standardize. Standardizing measurements is one of the most basic epidemiological analysis principles.

No question about desantis’ scheming, however!

crickets

(25,952 posts)
22. Agreed. Standardized reporting protocols, standardized response protocols,
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:23 PM
Aug 2021

and consequences for noncompliance have all been sorely lacking. The CDC still seems somewhat rudderless and prone to political pressure.

bluestarone

(16,872 posts)
5. I'm sure ALL rethuglicon Gov. states are LYING their ass's off
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:43 AM
Aug 2021

DO NOT TRUST Rethuglicon governing states!! NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
6. Florida has more daily deaths now than last summer
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:46 AM
Aug 2021

but DeathSentence would prefer alternative facts in the style of Trump.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
11. This is a BFD
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:59 AM
Aug 2021

and DeSantis needs to be called on the carpet for this, Florida residents need to be raising holy hell over this.

apnu

(8,749 posts)
13. Paging Rebekah Jones!
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 12:51 PM
Aug 2021

There's a ton of back-and-forth about Mrs. Jones. She said then that FL was messing about with COVID numbers.

Here we are again.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
15. Yes. Didn't she get arrested for something related to that also?
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 01:18 PM
Aug 2021

DeSantis has been fudging the numbers in Florida from the very beginning of the pandemic, so this is not at all shocking to me.

dameatball

(7,395 posts)
14. Not holding my breath until media in my area (N FL) picks up on this and gives it much air time.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 12:55 PM
Aug 2021

There was a brief mention of this toward the end of today's Stephanie Miller Show. I assume MSNBC and CNN will cover this today. It will be interesting to see if the story runs on local news this evening.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
20. Quelle surprise
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 02:50 PM
Aug 2021

I've noticed the rate of new cases has declined something like 20% in Florida the last two weeks. No action has been implemented in the last month, so why the drop? I do not see a logical reason.

cadoman

(792 posts)
23. I understand the difficulty in reliably collecting and comparing data but this is beyond infuriating
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 10:50 PM
Aug 2021

This situation screams for a regulated baseline standard for death reporting and I hope the Biden administration can make something like that happen. They're the right people for the job in the right circumstances.

What is Florida going to do? Shift the reporting system back and forth so that the high numbers are always earlier or later than the present time?

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