Texas doctor who violated state's abortion ban is sued, launching first test of constitutionality
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Source: Washington Post
A lawsuit that could test the constitutionality of the nation's most restrictive abortion ban was filed in Texas Monday against a doctor who admitted to performing an abortion considered illegal under the new law. The details of the civil suit against Alan Braid, a physician in San Antonio, are as unusual as the law itself, which empowers private citizens to enforce the ban on abortion once cardiac activity has been detected -- often as early as six weeks into pregnancy.
Braid stepped forward last week to say that he provided an abortion to a woman who was in the early stages of pregnancy, but beyond the state's limit. Despite the risks, Braid said he acted because of his duty as a doctor and "because she has a fundamental right to receive this care." "I fully understood that there could be legal consequences -- but I wanted to make sure that Texas didn't get away with its bid to prevent this blatantly unconstitutional law from being tested," he wrote in a column in The Washington Post.
On Monday, an Arkansas man said he decided to file a lawsuit to test the constitutionality of the Texas measure after reading a news report about Braid's declaration. Oscar Stilley, a former lawyer convicted of tax fraud in 2010, said he is not personally opposed to abortion, but believes that the measure should be subject to judicial review.
"If the law is no good, why should we have to go through a long, drawn-out process to find out if it's garbage?" Stilley said in an interview after filing the complaint in state court in Bexar County, Tex., which includes San Antonio. He also noted that a successful lawsuit could result in an award in court of at least $10,000 for the plaintiff.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/texas-abortion-doctor-sued/2021/09/20/f5ab5c56-1a1c-11ec-bcb8-0cb135811007_story.html
Here we go.
Here is a link to the suit that was filed (PDF) - https://bustingthefeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/1_ComplaintVBraid.pdf
NYT is reporting that a 2nd suit was filed by an IL man and referenced the story from this article - https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/09/20/san-antonio-doctor-who-openly-flouted-texas-abortion-ban-sued-by-disbarred-illinois-lawyer/
Copy of the 2nd lawsuit is here (PDF) - https://www.scribd.com/document/526485226/2021ci19920#download&from_embed
By J. David Goodman
Sept. 20, 2021, 6:58 p.m. ET
HOUSTON A man in Arkansas and another in Illinois on Monday filed what appeared to be the first legal actions under a strict new abortion law in Texas that is enforced by ordinary citizens, regardless of where they live. The Arkansas man, Oscar Stilley, who was described in the complaint as a disbarred and disgraced lawyer, said in an interview that he had filed the lawsuit against a Texas doctor, who publicly wrote about performing an abortion, to test the provisions of the law. The Supreme Court declined to stop the law, which has effectively ended most abortions in the state since going into effect this month.
The law bars enforcement by state officials, a novel maneuver aimed at circumventing judicial review, and instead relies on citizens to file legal claims against abortion providers or anyone suspected of aiding or abetting an abortion. Successful suits can bring the plaintiffs awards of at least $10,000. Proponents of the law and anti-abortion activists had been satisfied that the threat of legal action appeared to stop most abortions in Texas. Some feared that the openness of the law allowing anyone to file suit could result in a first test case that was unfavorable to their cause.
Mr. Stilley said he was not trying to halt abortions by Dr. Alan Braid, a San Antonio physician who wrote in The Washington Post on Saturday that he had violated the Texas law which prohibits abortions after cardiac activity is detected, or roughly six weeks into pregnancy. Im not pro-life, Mr. Stilley, 58, said in an interview. The thing that Im trying to vindicate here is the law. We pride ourselves on being a nation of laws. Whats the law?
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Dr. Braid was also sued on Monday by an Illinois man, Felipe N. Gomez, who described himself in his complaint as a pro-choice plaintiff. Mr. Gomez could not be immediately reached for comment about his lawsuit, which was earlier reported by KSAT news in San Antonio. Both suits were filed in state court in San Antonio and both men are representing themselves. Neither of these lawsuits are valid attempts to save innocent human lives, said John Seago, legislative director for Texas Right to Life, the states largest anti-abortion group, which lobbied for the new abortion law. Both cases are self-serving legal stunts, abusing the cause of action created in the Texas Heartbeat Act for their own purposes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/us/texas-abortion-lawsuit-alan-braid.html
JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)TRTL was not really planning on suing anyone, I don't think.
It was going to take a doctor being willing to do it, and someone who would file suit/win without actually intending on collecting said $10k, in order to get this into the appellate system. (Or at least someone who would put the $10k in a bank account, preventing others from suing the same doctor, while it got appealed.)
Yes, it definitely deserves judicial review. And it's ridiculous that I, or any other Arkansas citizen, should have the right to sue for essentially the "wrongful death" of a fetus in Texas when if my close neighbor with no family was killed, I couldn't sue the person responsible for their death -- I wouldn't have standing, even if there was no direct relative who would have had standing otherwise.
Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)(being told by surreptitiously by the one doing the abortion) and if they win just give the money back to the doctor.
Like this guy, if he wins and gives the money directly to the doctor, say as a gift, who performed the abortion. It would make the entire law moot if everyone got together and worked it that way
marie999
(3,334 posts)you have come up with the best idea yet.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)Great idea if it does. But if multiple people can sue (which seems to be the case with two already suing this doc) then it would just open the floodgates.
Isn't it interesting that so far no pro-life people have sued, though?
Takket
(21,563 posts)1 doctor performs an abortion.
2. Public campaign on TV with the doctor saying sue me! I did it
3. MILLIONS of Texans all sue the doctor and say where is my $10k????
Texas owes BILLIONS of dollars in bounties and bankrupts the state
Only works though if there is no limit to the amount of people that can sue
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)Apparently, we could all cash in if that's the case. Does the state or the doctor pay the bounty, though? I thought the doctor would be liable if he/she was the one who was sued.
Does the law only allow one $10,000 award per case? If so, then what if I sued each doctor each day, collected the $10k, and handed it right back to the doctor, thereby preventing anyone else from collecting.
Does that work?
AZLD4Candidate
(5,688 posts)review.
I believe that had to happen. Challenging the law with no standing because you oppose it shows no injury. This guy has no injury, but he is right. Bad laws need to be overturned by the court.
I offered my classroom to challenge Arizona's teacher gag rule. Now someone needs to sue me for violating it with they have proof I did
GregariousGroundhog
(7,521 posts)Could striking first with a purposely weak case help establish precedent in our favor rather than letting a right winger sue first?
AZLD4Candidate
(5,688 posts)How long did it take women to overturn the bad laws for woman's suffrage? Same concept. You keep fighting until you win.
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)That the person suing the doctor isn't a right wing forced birther ideologue. He's just a skeevy lawyer.
This will be an interesting test of the law - especially since he probably won't go judge shopping.
Montauk6
(8,075 posts), is currently a convicted felon serving an at-home sentence. Nice country.
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)We do have some prize winners here, don't we.
Montauk6
(8,075 posts)rdking647
(5,113 posts)if the courts can than force the plantiff to pay the doctors legal costs. i know the law says no but if its tossed out.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Aka, the doc represents himself, the lawyer suing represents themselves, and then the lawyer agrees to put the $10k into a specific bank account while waiting for an appeal -- so that someone else less "friendly" can't sue while it's being appealed. (Only defense to duplicate lawsuits is that the money has already been paid out -- doesn't matter if it was paid out under an agreement to either keep it in an account or donate it to a charity, etc, but it had to have been paid.)
marble falls
(57,080 posts)I don't think they plan for these shit laws to stand, they're trying to recreate Reagan's knee jerk rallying point, because the "Stop the Steal" is spiraling down the sewer. And they need some raw meat to get some traction.
oldsoftie
(12,533 posts)Now we have an "injured party' to address. I'm hopeful that the trumpers will once again be pissed at TFGs pick
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)Given no one is personally or financially harmed, Im guessing the law will be completely thrown out as no one could really argue theyve been personally harmed, unless the father (for lack of a better word) sued. Still though generally no standing.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Wholly unrelated to anyone else involved in the case, can possibly have standing in an abortion performed in Texas.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)I almost suggested that someone on DU sue Dr. Braid, for a dollar (if such a small amount is allowed), when I first read his public announcement regarding the abortion.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)They never intended to file any actual suits. It was always a scare tactic. They know the law would be destroyed in so many ways in court.
Glad this doctor and the guy opposed to the law suing him is calling the bluff.
Grins
(7,217 posts)Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)Republicans dont believe in the rule of law. They believe in the wild wild west but only for things they like.
Just cray cray but now it can be tested and lets see SCOTUS embarrass themselves - with their twisted logic - more than they already have.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Cheers, Doc!
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)How is anyone who files suit harmed?
Aren't these two of the questions that a court asks before ruling on any civil issue?
I'm no legal expert, but just asking.
Lithos
(26,403 posts)IMNAL - but there have been some excellent commentaries by lawyers about some of the issues with this law.
I think the comments by the Attorney General provide the best summary of issues against this law. Very readable:
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/09/texas-abortion-ban-federal-challenge/
cstanleytech
(26,290 posts)AZ8theist
(5,459 posts)said John Seago, legislative director for Texas Right to Life, the states largest anti-abortion group, which lobbied for the new abortion law. Both cases are self-serving legal stunts, abusing the cause of action created in the Texas Heartbeat Act for their own purposes.
WELL DUH FUCKING DUH, MORON.
THE LAWSUIT IS TO SHOW YOU AND YOUR SCUMBAG ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-WOMAN, FUCKING NAZIS ARE THE WORST SUBHUMAN PIECES OF SHIT TO EVER EXIST IN HUMAN HISTORY.
BumRushDaShow
(128,906 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)I would also tell him that there are people of good moral and religious character who disagree with his opinion that a fetus is a human being. The sages of the Talmud, pious men who were trying to determine the teachings of God, taught that one does not become a human being until one takes one's first breath.
AZ8theist, try not to let your hyperbole get away from you. Is Mr Seago worse than Pol Pot? Or Josef Mengele? Or Lavrentiy Beria?
AZ8theist
(5,459 posts)I'll file it in an appropriate place.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)100M cases should get submitted to the courts of TX.
I want to hear that the documents are coming in to the court clerks office on pallets, via forklift.
Every US citizen has equal claim to our $10,000 awards, right?
BumRushDaShow
(128,906 posts)The Lt. Governor here in PA is STILL waiting for his $1 million "reward" from the Texas Lt. Governor and continues to troll him.
Link to tweet
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@JohnFetterman
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Jul 15, 2021
Still like
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Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick says that when TX Democrats arrive back in the state, "they'll be arrested and brought to the Capitol and we will pass these bills"
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John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
So far, thats a NO.
We got your voter fraud, so wheres PAs handsome reward??
Is Texas' Dan Patrick prepared to part with his $1 million reward?
Texas' Dan Patrick (R) offered financial rewards for evidence of voter fraud. Then Pennsylvania's John Fetterman (D) came calling.
msnbc.com
9:34 AM · Jul 15, 2021 from Bedford, PA
So the odds of TX paying the $10,000 to people who file suit is probably zero to none.