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JudyM

(29,233 posts)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:03 PM Oct 2021

Court rejects DC residents' bid for voting representation

Source: Associated Press

The Supreme Court on Monday affirmed a lower court ruling that said District of Columbia residents are not entitled to voting representation in the House of Representatives.

Residents had asked the high court to hear the issue. The court's four-sentence order cited a case from 2000 in which the justices said the same thing.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/us-supreme-court-congress-district-of-columbia-voting-courts-a30cba6d363b4efa1e7f9170796cbac4



More from CNN:
The Supreme Court on Monday rejected a long shot bid from registered voters in the District of Columbia who sought the ability to elect representatives to Congress. The group of voters said their inability to vote for members of Congress violated their rights to equal protection and due process and pointed to the fact that Congress extended voting rights to overseas residents but not to similarly situated residents of DC.

"Residents of the District of Columbia are the only adult American citizens subject to federal income taxes who lack voting representation in Congress, except for felons in some States," lawyers for the residents wrote in legal papers.
A lower court ruled against the voters, holding that they do not live in a "state."

The court rejected the appeal without comment.
The court's action comes amid an ongoing debate on whether to make the federal district the country's 51st state. Democrats and advocates for DC statehood say making the district a state would allow for equal representation in Congress while Republicans argue it is a progressive effort to push their agenda by adding votes in the House and Senate.

The District of Columbia had over 689,000 residents in 2020, according to recent US Census results. The district has no voting member of Congress and Senate representation, but is is represented in the House by Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, a Democrat. Legislation introduced by Norton that would grant statehood to DC passed the House in April.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/04/politics/supreme-court-dc-residents-congress/index.html

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Court rejects DC residents' bid for voting representation (Original Post) JudyM Oct 2021 OP
Constitutional amendment is only remedy jimfields33 Oct 2021 #1
Or DC statehood. thucythucy Oct 2021 #3
Statehood is actually pretty easy angrychair Oct 2021 #12
Statehood is actually pretty easy angrychair Oct 2021 #13
If that's the case I wish the Democrats in the House and Senate thucythucy Oct 2021 #18
Can they go back to being part of Maryland? marshall Oct 2021 #11
Maybe DC should use TX as a guideline meaning agree to become part of MD on the condition that in2herbs Oct 2021 #15
I guess the Supremes just don't agree that "taxation without representation thucythucy Oct 2021 #2
They recognize that the Constitution reserves legislative representation to States. brooklynite Oct 2021 #5
I was being snarky. thucythucy Oct 2021 #16
I paid non resident city taxes for years, so quite familiar to taxation without representation MichMan Oct 2021 #20
How dare the servants of the Lords in government dare to request the right to speak for themselves. LiberalArkie Oct 2021 #4
Lol. Following the constitution sucks! jimfields33 Oct 2021 #6
MD Jamie Raskin.... turbinetree Oct 2021 #7
Whether DC can become a state or not has nothing to do with THIS ruling Polybius Oct 2021 #9
Sound horrible for the people of DC, but sadly it was the right decision based on the Constitution Polybius Oct 2021 #8
so they'll use precedent for a ruling on D.C. and ignore it for Roe v. Wade Marthe48 Oct 2021 #10
So then DC residents should be able to register in other states IbogaProject Oct 2021 #14
What an interesting idea! thucythucy Oct 2021 #17
Conservatives have said that for years. brooklynite Oct 2021 #19

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
3. Or DC statehood.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:15 PM
Oct 2021

Would that require an amendment?

I don't any the admission of any other states--including West Virginia, which was carved out of Virginia--needing an amendment. Is there something different about DC?

angrychair

(8,695 posts)
12. Statehood is actually pretty easy
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:58 PM
Oct 2021

Just requires simple majority in House and Senate and signature of president and bam your a state.

angrychair

(8,695 posts)
13. Statehood is actually pretty easy
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:58 PM
Oct 2021

Just requires simple majority in House and Senate and signature of president and bam your a state.

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
18. If that's the case I wish the Democrats in the House and Senate
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:37 AM
Oct 2021

would get on with it.

Two more Democratic senators would fix a world of woes.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
11. Can they go back to being part of Maryland?
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:45 PM
Oct 2021

That worked for Alexandria when it went back to Virginia, and didn't require an amendment. Maybe not the optimal solution, but it certainly seems to be the simplest, beyond just leaving it at the status quo.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
15. Maybe DC should use TX as a guideline meaning agree to become part of MD on the condition that
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 05:26 PM
Oct 2021

they can secede anytime. This will give them congressional representation now but if at a later time when there's the votes in Congress, secede from MD and become a state?? Is this possible???

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
2. I guess the Supremes just don't agree that "taxation without representation
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:08 PM
Oct 2021

is tyranny."

Just goes to show: we have a Tory Supreme Court.

King George would be proud.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
5. They recognize that the Constitution reserves legislative representation to States.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:30 PM
Oct 2021

DC got Presidential Electoral Votes through a Constitutional Amendment. Make the non-Government portions of DC a State and the problem is solved.

Article IV, Section 3: Section 3
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
16. I was being snarky.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:30 AM
Oct 2021

I'm hoping DC statehood isn't too far off.

You'd think 200 plus years of this hypocrisy would be enough.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
4. How dare the servants of the Lords in government dare to request the right to speak for themselves.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:16 PM
Oct 2021

Don't they know their place?

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
7. MD Jamie Raskin....
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:58 PM
Oct 2021

Doesn’t making DC a state require a constitutional amendment?

Many Republican lawmakers argue that for D.C. to become a state, a constitutional amendment is needed, which would have to be approved by two-thirds of the current 50 states.

“H.R. 51 goes against the Founding Founders’ intent and is unconstitutional, impractical and a blatant power grab,” said Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., arguing against the bill.

But supporters of the measure counter that the legislation does not require a constitutional amendment.

Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., who before he came to Congress was a constitutional scholar, maintained that thin arguments have been made repeatedly over the years against admitting various states.

He said the arguments to reject the rights of fellow Americans are “often wrapped in constitutional clothing.”

“With Texas it was said, Texas could not be admitted because it would be unconstitutional because it was its own country,” he said. “It was said Hawaii and Alaska could not be admitted because they were not contiguous.”

He cited several other examples, including the argument that West Virginia couldn’t be admitted to the union because it was part of Virginia; Oklahoma “was said to be too poor;” New Mexico was “too Catholic, and on and on and on.”

Raskin said there is no requirement for a constitutional amendment to make D.C. a state.

https://wtop.com/dc/2021/04/state-debate-why-has-d-c-has-never-been-a-state/

SO if I read Raskins comment correctly.....the federalist sitting on the US Supreme court have no standing, that the citizens of the district have standing......

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
9. Whether DC can become a state or not has nothing to do with THIS ruling
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:58 PM
Oct 2021

It's about the status quo, and whether or not DC can have congressional members now. Of course they can't, it's not a state. it was a longshot challenge from the start, and the decision was likely 9-0 or 8-1.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
8. Sound horrible for the people of DC, but sadly it was the right decision based on the Constitution
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:54 PM
Oct 2021

I wouldn't be surprised if the decision was unanimous either.

IbogaProject

(2,804 posts)
14. So then DC residents should be able to register in other states
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 04:13 PM
Oct 2021

So then DC residents should be able to register in other states just like overseas americans can still vote? That might flip one or more red states.

thucythucy

(8,047 posts)
17. What an interesting idea!
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:33 AM
Oct 2021

I hadn't heard this before, and I wonder what the details would be for making this happen. Probably residency requirements or such?

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