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LetMyPeopleVote

(144,884 posts)
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:52 PM Oct 2021

Derek Chauvin Has to Pay for His Own Lawyer, Minnesota Supreme Court Rules

Source: Vice News

Derek Chauvin, the former Minnesota cop convicted of murdering George Floyd last May, is going to have to pull together the cash for his own attorney moving forward.

On Wednesday, the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled that Chauvin will not be eligible for a public defender. It’s the second time in two months the court denied his request for one because he doesn’t have the money to pay for an attorney on his own.

Last month, when Chauvin filed an appeal in the murder trial that found him guilty of second and third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter, court documents showed he had also filed for pauper status, which would allow him to retain a public defender and potentially waive court costs associated with his case. In appeal documents made public at the time, Chauvin insisted that he was already $142,000 in debt.

“I do not have a sufficient source of income, besides nominal prison wages, which are being used to pay off fees from the above captioned case,” Chauvin wrote at the time. “My only assets are two retirement accounts. If I take funds from said accounts, I will be significantly penalized and the remained will likely be taken to pay off debts.”


Read more: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8795/derek-chauvin-cant-get-public-defender-minnesota-supreme-court-rules

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Derek Chauvin Has to Pay for His Own Lawyer, Minnesota Supreme Court Rules (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 OP
... bluewater Oct 2021 #1
Somehow my heart does not bleed. truthisfreedom Oct 2021 #2
now he knows what it's like for all those poor people he put in jail who cant pay bail nt msongs Oct 2021 #3
Poetic ColinC Oct 2021 #4
I think the judge has assessed... boyedav1969 Oct 2021 #8
Makes sense. ColinC Oct 2021 #11
What a moocher. plimsoll Oct 2021 #12
Just because he will incur a penalty doesn't mean he cannot afford an attorney. Dustlawyer Oct 2021 #16
Yeah I'm not crying. Well actually I am ColinC Oct 2021 #22
Typically, retirement accounts do not count when assessments of this kind are made. Calista241 Oct 2021 #26
Derek, it is a hard knock life for fucking convicted murderers. Chainfire Oct 2021 #5
What an entitled asshat boyedav1969 Oct 2021 #6
Good point about the "GoFundMe" stuff.... MyOwnPeace Oct 2021 #19
Only 22 years to go, kiddo.......... secondwind Oct 2021 #7
Derek Chauvin's application for a public defender to represent him on appeal has been doubly denied LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #9
So - some kind of gofundme will probably be set up rurallib Oct 2021 #10
Too bad, so sad. Should've taken your knee off Mr. Floyd's neck. brush Oct 2021 #13
You mean... his lawyer wants to be paid Demobrat Oct 2021 #14
Hey Derek oswaldactedalone Oct 2021 #15
boo hoo...guess he was never taught there are consequences for one's actions. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2021 #17
And he wants to defend himself for what??? I am puzzled...his murder is on video, what does he think Escurumbele Oct 2021 #18
GOOD. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #20
Republicans will rush to his aid. Turbineguy Oct 2021 #21
Derek Chauvin deemed ineligible for public defender for appeals to Floyd murder conviction LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #23
Oh, too bad Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #24
Didn't he try to sell his house to a relative for a dollar? Mosby Oct 2021 #25
Ha. Haha. Hahaha. ad infinitum Jilly_in_VA Oct 2021 #27

ColinC

(8,277 posts)
4. Poetic
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:02 PM
Oct 2021

If not possibly unconstitutional?

Is it simply presumed that he has a net worth that could afford an attorney, but simply does not want to?

boyedav1969

(93 posts)
8. I think the judge has assessed...
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:08 PM
Oct 2021

...that he could afford his own lawyer if he wanted too. He just doesn't want to dip into his nest egg if he can get the govt to foot the bill.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
16. Just because he will incur a penalty doesn't mean he cannot afford an attorney.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:47 PM
Oct 2021

Too bad, so sad! (Not really)

Calista241

(5,585 posts)
26. Typically, retirement accounts do not count when assessments of this kind are made.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 12:01 PM
Oct 2021

They’re shielded from lawsuits for instance.

Chainfire

(17,458 posts)
5. Derek, it is a hard knock life for fucking convicted murderers.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:04 PM
Oct 2021

How much representation did your victim get?

boyedav1969

(93 posts)
6. What an entitled asshat
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:06 PM
Oct 2021

He *could* dip into his retirement to pay for his attorney, he just doesn't think he should have to. Plenty of people less fortunate have had to ask family and friends to go into debt for them in order to afford proper representation against prosecutors with seemingly endless resources. People who didn't have Chauvin's assets to fall back on.

I'm surprised his fellow bastards/racists haven't started a GoFundMe so he can afford a legal dream team, for what I'm sure they all think is an unjust prosecution.

I'm not sure which I prefer for him: being financially devastated, or getting stuck with an already over-burdened public defender. It's still too good for him.

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
19. Good point about the "GoFundMe" stuff....
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 08:17 PM
Oct 2021

if a wacko 17-yr. old, Kyle Rittenhouse, can round up 2 million or so, you would think that this guy would be rolling it in big-time!

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
10. So - some kind of gofundme will probably be set up
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:09 PM
Oct 2021

or maybe the old cash canister on the conveyance store counter

brush

(53,726 posts)
13. Too bad, so sad. Should've taken your knee off Mr. Floyd's neck.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:17 PM
Oct 2021

Why is he even appealing? Everybody saw the video of him murdering George Floyd.

Escurumbele

(3,374 posts)
18. And he wants to defend himself for what??? I am puzzled...his murder is on video, what does he think
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 07:46 PM
Oct 2021

he can argue about? He is lucky to just have jail time, the way he committed the murder a bigger punishment should have been placed on him.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,884 posts)
23. Derek Chauvin deemed ineligible for public defender for appeals to Floyd murder conviction
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 11:53 PM
Oct 2021



MINNEAPOLIS — The Minnesota Supreme Court on Wednesday denied former Minneapolis police Officer Derek Chauvin's request to have a public defender represent him as he appeals his murder conviction and sentence in the death of George Floyd.

The state's high court said Chauvin has not established that he is entitled to a public defender.

The justices made that decision after reviewing information about Chauvin's debts and assets, as well as the Office of the Minnesota Appellate Public Defender's prior determination that Chauvin was ineligible, Chief Justice Lorie Gildea wrote.

Chauvin may seek a public defender in the future if he's unable to pay for a lawyer, the Supreme Court said.

Chauvin filed documents last month saying he intends to appeal his conviction and sentence on 14 grounds, including that his trial should have been moved from Hennepin County and the jury should have been sequestered.

Mosby

(16,252 posts)
25. Didn't he try to sell his house to a relative for a dollar?
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 11:20 AM
Oct 2021

Or was it his wife was going to divorce him and retain all the assets? Got shot down by the courts I think.

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