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SouthBayDem

(32,015 posts)
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:26 AM Oct 2021

Bannon to defy subpoena from January 6 committee as Trump urges defiance, sources say

Source: CNN

At least two associates of former President Donald Trump have responded to the House committee investigating the January 6 insurrection -- with one saying they intend to defy the subpoena, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Steve Bannon has informed the House committee investigating the US Capitol riot that he will not cooperate with their subpoena to provide related documents, according to a source familiar with the matter. The source characterized Bannon's response as saying he "stands with Trump."

Another source confirmed Bannon responded, as did former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows. The source would not characterize Meadows' response. It is not clear if the two others -- Kash Patel and Dan Scavino -- have responded.

The four associates were sent subpoenas by the House select committee. All four were also sent letters from Trump's attorney on Wednesday advising them he intended to defend what he viewed as an infringement of executive privilege.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/08/politics/trump-associates-january-6-subpoena/index.html

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Bannon to defy subpoena from January 6 committee as Trump urges defiance, sources say (Original Post) SouthBayDem Oct 2021 OP
If Bannon is not compelled to appear... Happy Hoosier Oct 2021 #1
DAMNED STRAIGHT!!!! groundloop Oct 2021 #6
Agree wholeheartedly and if they screw around until 2022 and we lose blueinredohio Oct 2021 #11
Exactly! Rebl2 Oct 2021 #34
Judge Garland is watching this contempt of Congress closely. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #2
Let's hope. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #8
Garland is like the man who appointed him. My admiration for the quiet competency is immense. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #10
Good for you. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #13
The most competent jurist not to sit on SCOTUS due to theft, is at the helm. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #14
Cases of grand larceny should be reported bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #16
I hope so. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #18
This clear cut coordinated refusal by the capos.. may trigger release of the Kraken. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #20
Me too Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #56
I think you're assuming Garland's is obsessed with "getting" Trump... agingdem Oct 2021 #26
I'm not assuming shit. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #33
Unfortunately I agree. kairos12 Oct 2021 #39
I disagree...not about Trump agingdem Oct 2021 #46
👍 Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #48
Why did I nearly read "Judy Garland"? SouthBayDem Oct 2021 #23
I did the same! kairos12 Oct 2021 #40
Wait. I thought they were the party of law and order Siwsan Oct 2021 #3
If he wants to go down as a "hero"... Harker Oct 2021 #4
Might I suggest waterboarding. marmar Oct 2021 #5
Damn good suggestion!!! hamsterjill Oct 2021 #9
He needs a good scubbing Traildogbob Oct 2021 #27
Liz Cheney still doesn't think it was torture Chin music Oct 2021 #57
He's got nothing to hide... samplegirl Oct 2021 #7
We're about to find out what the Garland DOJ is made of. CrispyQ Oct 2021 #12
Let them ponder their executive privilege with 18 months in jail bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #15
If the democrats DO NOT throw these guys in jail, then all hope is lost. BComplex Oct 2021 #17
Prison Wild blueberry Oct 2021 #19
Good luck with the "executive privilege" defense Bannon Botany Oct 2021 #21
Haul his traitorous Republican ass to jail Champp Oct 2021 #22
He should be arrested at once Orrex Oct 2021 #24
+1 K&R onetexan Oct 2021 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #58
What did you expect? After all, he'd have to take a shower and wash his hair... Frustratedlady Oct 2021 #25
That's okay jmowreader Oct 2021 #36
What's the point if the law can be ignored by some, duforsure Oct 2021 #28
Hey, Bannon, google Susan McDougal. Mawspam2 Oct 2021 #29
I seem to remember people going to jail for months when Thugs were in control and wanted answers. appleannie1 Oct 2021 #30
If it was You or Me they would have sent the sheriffs to arrest us Day ONE. flying_wahini Oct 2021 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #59
A judicial crisis - packman Oct 2021 #32
I can see why he won't testify without immunity. OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2021 #35
They COULD immunize his testimony jmowreader Oct 2021 #37
Iran-Contra hibbing Oct 2021 #38
Yes, Oliver North was given some limited immunity Deminpenn Oct 2021 #44
That might what they need to do. OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2021 #42
I read here that Bannon has received a pardon from Trump for defrauding his Qult of deplorables. Justice matters. Oct 2021 #49
I thought he pardoned the Build the wall fraud. OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2021 #50
LOCK THEM UP!!!!! Kimber432 Oct 2021 #41
If I were prez, I'd be tempted to ask SecDef Deminpenn Oct 2021 #43
As I said in another thread they should have Started with warrants because those come attached Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #45
House committee probing Jan. 6 weighs criminal contempt referral for Steve Bannon over subpoena refu Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #60
Lock that fat slob up Blue Owl Oct 2021 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #54
Bannon cites Trump's 'direction' in defying subpoena riversedge Oct 2021 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #61

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
1. If Bannon is not compelled to appear...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:28 AM
Oct 2021

... then Congress may as well admit it does not have a subpoena power.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
6. DAMNED STRAIGHT!!!!
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:32 AM
Oct 2021

Either put his ass in jail until he complies or else just throw in the towel on this entire investigation because without witness it will go nowhere.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
11. Agree wholeheartedly and if they screw around until 2022 and we lose
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:40 AM
Oct 2021

we might as well forget the whole damned thing.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
2. Judge Garland is watching this contempt of Congress closely.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:30 AM
Oct 2021

When the criminal indictments fall such unlawful contempt will melt under the threat of immediate and indefinite imprisonment until compliance…this unlawful contempt on open display by TFGs Capos will be yet more ammunition in The Sedition Trials.

Almost like there’s a plan we don’t see clearly. Yet.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
8. Let's hope.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:36 AM
Oct 2021

I hope you’re right but I’m not counting on anything. Color me skeptical from past history.

Garland has failed to impress me this far, but I hope he knows what he’s doing

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
13. Good for you.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:41 AM
Oct 2021

Seriously. I hope my once upon a time admiration returns by Garland taking bold and decisive action.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
18. I hope so.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:45 AM
Oct 2021

Again…I’m waiting. Let him throw their asses in jail for defying the subpoenas, and I’ll be his biggest fan.

Response to Alexander Of Assyria (Reply #10)

agingdem

(7,840 posts)
26. I think you're assuming Garland's is obsessed with "getting" Trump...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:18 AM
Oct 2021

Last edited Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Garland is a quiet judicious man...he knows what he's doing...he's allowing the process to go forward...let's see if the House committee has the "balls" to walk the walk and arrest and jail those subpoena-defying assholes...SDNY is actively going after Trump, Trump's reptilian spawn, and his businesses...Georgia is pursuing Trump's election interference...we have to let this play out...Garland will step in when he knows the time is right because when he swings he can't afford to miss

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
33. I'm not assuming shit.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:54 AM
Oct 2021

I’ve lived the last five years and seen nothing happen to Trump or anyone related to Trump.

I want Trump in jail myself. If it happens, I’ll be elated. But pardon my skepticism.

kairos12

(12,851 posts)
39. Unfortunately I agree.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 12:36 PM
Oct 2021

Chump beat:

Mueller, 2 Impeachments, the IRS so far, 42 Sexual Assault cases, the Cohen bribery deal, and Congress.

If Chump gets any consequences from anybody I will be shocked.

New York or Georgia will get him when the Feds have not been able to.

Unlikely.

agingdem

(7,840 posts)
46. I disagree...not about Trump
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:02 PM
Oct 2021

I want that orange sonofabitch in a maximum security prison for the criminally insane and I want it yesterday....I'm 73 years old and at this point in my life instant gratification isn't fast enough but I'm willing to wait just a little bit longer...

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
3. Wait. I thought they were the party of law and order
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:32 AM
Oct 2021

If they've done nothing wrong then why are they so afraid to appear? Understand, that's a rhetorical question topped with a bit of sarcasm.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
57. Liz Cheney still doesn't think it was torture
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 08:30 AM
Oct 2021

so maybe we should re-acquaint ourselves and revew that conclusion?

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
17. If the democrats DO NOT throw these guys in jail, then all hope is lost.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:45 AM
Oct 2021

This is either a country of laws, or it isn't. If one class of people can break laws with impunity, then we have already thrown in the towel.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
21. Good luck with the "executive privilege" defense Bannon
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:53 AM
Oct 2021

You haven't been part of the executive branch form 2017

Lock em up.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
22. Haul his traitorous Republican ass to jail
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:54 AM
Oct 2021

Sit in the slammer for a couple of months, Bannon, and stew.

Response to Orrex (Reply #24)

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
25. What did you expect? After all, he'd have to take a shower and wash his hair...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:05 AM
Oct 2021

iron a shirt and find an unworn pair of pants to wear.

Give the guy a break!

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
36. That's okay
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 12:11 PM
Oct 2021

I just checked the Bob Barker website. Bob Barker is America’s biggest prison supply firm, and it’s still controlled by Mr. Barker, who is not the game show host.

They have prison uniforms up to 10XL. Somewhere in their extensive product line you will find clothing perfect for Bannon to testify in.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. What's the point if the law can be ignored by some,
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:27 AM
Oct 2021

And can't be enforced equally to everyone. They have to pick them up , and jail them , or the American people will lose all faith in them in Congress, and our system of justice in this country. Or are they already trying to fix the United States Supreme Court to protect them?

Response to flying_wahini (Reply #31)

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,031 posts)
35. I can see why he won't testify without immunity.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 12:09 PM
Oct 2021

Even if they did force him to show, what stops him from pleading the 5th?
The whole bunch are criminals through and through.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
37. They COULD immunize his testimony
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 12:18 PM
Oct 2021

Please understand: I cannot fucking STAND Steve Bannon. I think the guy spends his time in bed dreaming of the felonies he plans to commit the next morning. But I want Trump in jail worse, so it might be advantageous to immunize his testimony, which erases Fifth Amendment protection.

If they do immunize him, there are two safeguards: if you refuse to testify after being immunized you can be charged with contempt, and if you lie on the stand you can be charged with perjury.

The alternative is to forget Bannon and go straight for Trump.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
38. Iran-Contra
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 12:30 PM
Oct 2021

Wasn't there an issue with granting immunity to some of those crooks and then their testimony was worthless? I recall something about it.

Peace

Deminpenn

(15,273 posts)
44. Yes, Oliver North was given some limited immunity
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:12 PM
Oct 2021

for his testimony. IIRC, it had an impact on the criminal charges he could have faced, but didn't entirely preclude them.

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
49. I read here that Bannon has received a pardon from Trump for defrauding his Qult of deplorables.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:17 PM
Oct 2021
Therefore, Bannon can't invoke anything like the 5th and has to answer questions.

Now he may answer that he does not remember anything to every question but that could earn him a obstruction of Justice charge.

Deminpenn

(15,273 posts)
43. If I were prez, I'd be tempted to ask SecDef
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:06 PM
Oct 2021

and SecNav to find a way to recall Bannon to service, then court martial him. For extra fun, I'd ask that reserve JAG Col Lindsay Graham lead the prosecution.

Ford_Prefect

(7,876 posts)
45. As I said in another thread they should have Started with warrants because those come attached
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:32 PM
Oct 2021

to the arresting officers. Bannon and Meadows had previously said on the record they would not obey Congressional Subpoenas.

I know due process is required but the warrants could have been sworn on the condition that they did not comply and served upon denial of the subpoena. Bannon probably has an escape plan complete with Russian passport and visas to at least 6 "friendly" countries.

These men are not going to play by the rules or comply with the law and should be treated as such. I think we are showing far too much civil restraint when dealing with them. Were they working for John Gotti the approach would be very different. They are known thugs at at least one is a convicted felon.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
52. House committee probing Jan. 6 weighs criminal contempt referral for Steve Bannon over subpoena refu
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 07:43 PM
Oct 2021

The House select committee probing the deadly Capitol riot said Friday it could soon advance a referral to hold former Trump advisor Steve Bannon in contempt of Congress over his refusal to comply with a subpoena.

Bannon, who departed then-President Donald Trump's White House years before the Jan. 6 invasion of the Capitol, "has indicated that he will try to hide behind vague references to privileges of the former President," the House panel said in a statement.

"Though the Select Committee welcomes good-faith engagement with witnesses seeking to cooperate with our investigation, we will not allow any witness to defy a lawful subpoena or attempt to run out the clock, and we will swiftly consider advancing a criminal contempt of Congress referral," said the statement from Chairman Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and Vice Chair Liz Cheney, R-Wyo.

It is unclear how soon the select committee could push a criminal contempt referral forward. When a person defies a congressional subpoena, the House can certify a contempt citation to the executive branch for criminal prosecution.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-committee-probing-jan-6-weighs-criminal-contempt-referral-for-steve-bannon-over-subpoena-refusal/ar-AAPhIZo

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riversedge

(70,183 posts)
55. Bannon cites Trump's 'direction' in defying subpoena
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 07:54 AM
Oct 2021





https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/08/politics/trump-associates-january-6-subpoena/index.html



Bannon to defy subpoena from January 6 committee, citing Trump's 'direction'

By Sara Murray, Katelyn Polantz and Ryan Nobles, CNN

Updated 9:25 PM ET, Fri October 8, 2021
Bannon cites Trump's 'direction' in defying subpoena




(CNN)Steve Bannon will not cooperate with the House select committee investigating January 6, his lawyer said in an email obtained by CNN that cites former President Donald Trump's claim of executive privilege.

Bannon's attorney told the committee that "the executive privileges belong to President Trump" and "we must accept his direction and honor his invocation of executive privilege."

The letter from Bannon's legal team goes on to say it may be up to the courts to decide whether he is ultimately forced to cooperate -- essentially daring the House to sue or hold him in criminal contempt.


"As such, until these issues are resolved, we are unable to respond to your request for documents and testimony," wrote the lawyer, Robert Costello...........

Response to riversedge (Reply #55)

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