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Omaha Steve

(99,503 posts)
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:01 AM Oct 2021

China's Xi calls for 'peaceful' reunification with Taiwan

Source: AP

By HUIZHONG WU

TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — Chinese leader Xi Jinping said on Saturday that a “peaceful” reunification of Taiwan with China’s mainland was in Beijing’s interests, despite ratcheted up military threats against the self-governing island.

Xi spoke at an official celebration in Beijing’s Great Hall of the People that focused largely on the need for the ruling Communist Party to continue to lead China as the country rises in power and influence.

“Reunification of the nation must be realized, and will definitely be realized,” Xi vowed before an audience of politicians, military personnel and others gathered in the hulking chamber that serves as the seat of China’s ceremonial legislature.

“Reunification through a peaceful manner is the most in line with the overall interest of the Chinese nation, including Taiwan compatriots,” the leader added.



Chinese President Xi Jinping looks as he arrives at an event commemorating the 110th anniversary of Xinhai Revolution at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, Saturday, Oct. 9, 2021. Xi said on Saturday reunification with Taiwan must happen and will happen peacefully, despite a ratcheting-up of China's threats to attack the island. (AP Photo/Andy Wong)


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China's Xi calls for 'peaceful' reunification with Taiwan (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2021 OP
Bernardo de La Paz calls for China & Xi to fully embrace democracy and freedom of Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2021 #1
Embrace democracy & lose his lifetime presidency? I doubt it onetexan Oct 2021 #34
I'm calling for it, not expecting it. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2021 #41
Talking points Tetrachloride Oct 2021 #2
A Peaceful Reunification Of Taiwan With China's Mainland Was In Beijing's Interests wyn borkins Oct 2021 #3
They did such a nice job crushing Hong Kong democracy CanonRay Oct 2021 #4
This. orangecrush Oct 2021 #10
Japan is nervous too, and converting two ships into air craft carriers. sarcasmo Oct 2021 #18
same as in nepal. AllaN01Bear Oct 2021 #39
"We desire peace perhaps more than all others." - Hitler, May 1933 dalton99a Oct 2021 #5
nail on the head llashram Oct 2021 #13
"Colleagues. In people's hearts and minds, Crimea has always been an inseparable part of Russia." LudwigPastorius Oct 2021 #31
No wonder Donnie the Dotard like Xi lonely bird Oct 2021 #6
Which is why the "we must defend democracy" in Taiwan arguments here are a joke BeyondGeography Oct 2021 #40
though it will never happen I'm glad the word peaceful was used. Now, if Taiwan had a corporate run yaesu Oct 2021 #7
The majority of Taiwanese citizens do not consider themselves Chinese. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #21
but the majority of Americans hate fascism yet fascism thrives here, the power of money & unfettered yaesu Oct 2021 #33
The point is that most people & their govt dont want China. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #47
Say WHAT? orangecrush Oct 2021 #8
I mean, he's kind of right in that christx30 Oct 2021 #42
Straight out of Sun Tzu orangecrush Oct 2021 #49
Mainland China Roy Rolling Oct 2021 #9
And then orangecrush Oct 2021 #11
Taiwan Is Not Part Of China... GB_RN Oct 2021 #12
Bingo on HK. roamer65 Oct 2021 #14
China is convinced they are the center of the world. They refer to all descendants of emigrants... Hekate Oct 2021 #51
But the U.S. does not recognize Taiwan as a country. marie999 Oct 2021 #57
No, But Biden Said Yesterday That... GB_RN Oct 2021 #58
Which we should, but we need a strong Asian alliance including Taiwan similar to NATO. marie999 Oct 2021 #60
That's Why We're Selling Nuclear Subs... GB_RN Oct 2021 #61
"Reunification" translates to "takeover". zanana1 Oct 2021 #15
Yes it does Hekate Oct 2021 #52
Taiwan saw what happened to Hong Kong sakabatou Oct 2021 #16
+1 This. bronxiteforever Oct 2021 #46
There's a thinly veiled threat JohnnyRingo Oct 2021 #17
That is exactly what it is HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #19
"Be a shame if your little country got broke...wouldn'it?" LudwigPastorius Oct 2021 #32
Xi is a psychopath, just like trump, except he has a functioning brain. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #20
May Not Have Been Anything From His Childhood... GB_RN Oct 2021 #23
I would still posit that his, or anyone's, willingness TO BE corrupted HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #24
The entire Chinese government supports his position Polybius Oct 2021 #26
Yup. They are all psychopaths.. care nothing for human beings. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #27
Yeah Polybius Oct 2021 #28
Yes, you are right. Of course it is taught in schools. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #35
In other words, "surrender". Prepare, Tawian oldsoftie Oct 2021 #22
I highly doubt the people of Taiwan want peace with those who drove their great-grandparents out. Crowman2009 Oct 2021 #25
So why all the flyover's with airforce these past weeks? diverdownjt Oct 2021 #29
There are flyovers in response to the intel that our military has special ops doing military ancianita Oct 2021 #38
It is a China and Taiwan issue. Steelrolled Oct 2021 #30
I must disagree in spirit, and probably in action as well. HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #36
Agreed. Taiwan only exists in the 21st century because they were a US satellite in the 20th... Hekate Oct 2021 #53
Exactly soryang Oct 2021 #45
"UN resolutions"? What a joke oldsoftie Oct 2021 #48
Sure thing, Xi. Because Taiwan is noticing how scrupulously China has adhered ... 11 Bravo Oct 2021 #37
Pardon me while roll around on the floor laughing. After an enormous show of force, involving 38 Martin68 Oct 2021 #43
We've already had a taste of China's peaceful methodology in Hong Kong. Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #44
A man of integrity. Not. Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #50
Taiwan is worth going to war over Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #54
This Situation Undoubtedly Plays Into Why... GB_RN Oct 2021 #55
Xi is the Chinese Trump orangecrush Oct 2021 #56
I'd Say He's Their Version Of Putin GB_RN Oct 2021 #59
True. orangecrush Oct 2021 #62

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,964 posts)
1. Bernardo de La Paz calls for China & Xi to fully embrace democracy and freedom of
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:16 AM
Oct 2021

expression.

Not until then should reunification be considered.

Look at the "peaceful" reunification with Hong Kong by means of iron fist.

"Ceremonial legislature" is the correct term, as applied in the excerpt.

Tetrachloride

(7,817 posts)
2. Talking points
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:30 AM
Oct 2021

1. Taiwan people are not compatriots.
2. China doesn’t want peace.
3. Xi has never been to Taiwan and never will.
4. About 76 years since the split.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
3. A Peaceful Reunification Of Taiwan With China's Mainland Was In Beijing's Interests
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:43 AM
Oct 2021

Xi: “Reunification of the nation must - and will definitely be realized”.

Mi(e): Seems he intimated: Overwhelming Force - and that Right Soon!

dalton99a

(81,404 posts)
5. "We desire peace perhaps more than all others." - Hitler, May 1933
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:04 AM
Oct 2021

January 1935: "No country can feel the need for peace more profoundly than Germany."

May 1935: "Our love of peace is perhaps greater than that of the other nations."

January 1936: "There is not a single German who desires war."

March 1936: "My aim is Peace, Peace founded on an equality of rights amongst the peoples."

September 1936: "The German people has no other wish than to live in peace and friendship."

June 1937: "The German in his whole character is not only peaceable and peace-loving."

...

January 1939: "[W]e have always only one wish, that in the coming year, too, we may succeed in contributing to the general pacification of the world."

April 1939: "... the Czech people will have more freedom than the down-trodden peoples of the virtuous nations! I have thus, I believe, done a great service to the cause of peace."

etc. etc.

LudwigPastorius

(9,110 posts)
31. "Colleagues. In people's hearts and minds, Crimea has always been an inseparable part of Russia."
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 02:14 PM
Oct 2021

"This firm conviction is based on truth and justice and was passed from generation to generation, over time, under any circumstances, despite all the dramatic changes our country went through during the entire 20th Century." - Putin 2014

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
40. Which is why the "we must defend democracy" in Taiwan arguments here are a joke
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 03:55 PM
Oct 2021

When one of our major parties is in thrall to a wannabe authoritarian and said party’s mission is to undermine democracy at every turn, our would-be freedom fighters are standing on a very rickety set of legs to put it mildly. Don’t think that Xi (and the world at large) hasn’t noticed.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
7. though it will never happen I'm glad the word peaceful was used. Now, if Taiwan had a corporate run
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:11 AM
Oct 2021

political system allowed to be twisted by corporate media they probably would see demonstrations to unite with China but think God they aren't as corrupt as the US.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
21. The majority of Taiwanese citizens do not consider themselves Chinese.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 12:48 PM
Oct 2021

You wont see many demonstrations to "reunite" because most citizens do not want to be taken over by the communists

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
33. but the majority of Americans hate fascism yet fascism thrives here, the power of money & unfettered
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 02:39 PM
Oct 2021

capitalism at work. So it doesn't matter what the majority thinks, is all about the system and whether its corrupt or not.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
47. The point is that most people & their govt dont want China.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 05:28 PM
Oct 2021

The only way the small minority that WOULD ever get their way is if China takes over. The US & others have sworn to protect them from that disaster.
We'll see how far china wants to push their nonsense

christx30

(6,241 posts)
42. I mean, he's kind of right in that
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:02 PM
Oct 2021

taking the island without military conflict is in china’s best interests. One nation forcing another nation to capitulate under threat of force, but not force itself, is always in the best interest of the conqueror. It won’t be good for Taiwan either way. But all Xi cares about is his lifetime presidency and his power. The desires of the citizens are a slightly interesting, but irrelevant factor in the matter.

orangecrush

(19,430 posts)
49. Straight out of Sun Tzu
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 10:01 PM
Oct 2021



Victory without fighting.

Unfortunately, they proved in Hong Kong what to really expect.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
9. Mainland China
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:17 AM
Oct 2021

Let the wealthy rulers over the mainland stop enriching themselves through communism and become a democracy.

Then, the free people of mainland China can reunify with the free people of Taiwan, not the other way around.

GB_RN

(2,334 posts)
12. Taiwan Is Not Part Of China...
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:29 AM
Oct 2021

Yeah, people and governments may give lip service to “One China”, but Taiwan is effectively its own country and an invasion is the only way Xi Jin Pingpong and the Chinese Communist Party will ever change that. From what I can tell, the Taiwanese want nothing to do with Xi and his CCP dictatorship. Especially after he/they reneged on every agreement on Hong Kong’s democracy and self governance.

Hekate

(90,562 posts)
51. China is convinced they are the center of the world. They refer to all descendants of emigrants...
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 12:08 AM
Oct 2021

… as “overseas Chinese,” and they mean it.

Whether a 3d-generation American or a Taiwanese feels that way is another matter. An American is secure within our borders — but a Taiwanese on Taiwan is not. Taiwan has maintained its independence from China all these decades by being a satellite of the US. It served the US to maintain this relationship throughout the Cold War, but the moment we turn away, they will be extinct.

China is very expansionist. Remember PNAC? The Project for a New American Century? The Neo-Cons were short-sighted in the extreme. The 21st Century is becoming the Chinese Century.

GB_RN

(2,334 posts)
58. No, But Biden Said Yesterday That...
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 04:18 PM
Oct 2021

The US will defend Taiwan if Xi and the CCP invade. CBS is not the only source for that story, either.

GB_RN

(2,334 posts)
61. That's Why We're Selling Nuclear Subs...
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 06:56 PM
Oct 2021

To Australia. The deal pissed off the French, who were selling the Aussies outdated, loud and detectable diesel models, which were over budget and behind on delivery too, IIRC.

We’ve been selling military equipment to Taiwan since forever and we have special forces advisors there training some of their troops, too.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
17. There's a thinly veiled threat
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 12:09 PM
Oct 2021

Like if I told my neighbor "I really hope we can resolve this fence issue without me punching you in the face".

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
20. Xi is a psychopath, just like trump, except he has a functioning brain.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 12:48 PM
Oct 2021

Wonder what happened to him as a child..??

GB_RN

(2,334 posts)
23. May Not Have Been Anything From His Childhood...
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:01 PM
Oct 2021

It could be as simple as the old saying: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

And this asshole pretty much has absolute power.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
24. I would still posit that his, or anyone's, willingness TO BE corrupted
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:05 PM
Oct 2021

starts in childhood.. or perhaps also inherited. Although, I would think more the former.

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
26. The entire Chinese government supports his position
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:37 PM
Oct 2021

Unification has been China's policy since the 40's. If he didn't say it, their next leader would.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
27. Yup. They are all psychopaths.. care nothing for human beings.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:51 PM
Oct 2021

Sort of like some we know of in the US of A.

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
28. Yeah
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:53 PM
Oct 2021

It's how they were raised, you got that right. I'm pretty sure that they teach that in Chinese schools about Taiwan being theirs.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
35. Yes, you are right. Of course it is taught in schools.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 03:09 PM
Oct 2021

And June 4th never happened.

Interesting how too much of the same type of national lies are taught in US schools as well..

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
22. In other words, "surrender". Prepare, Tawian
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 12:50 PM
Oct 2021

If attacked, inflict as much pain as possible. And hope the world comes to your aid

Crowman2009

(2,490 posts)
25. I highly doubt the people of Taiwan want peace with those who drove their great-grandparents out.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:21 PM
Oct 2021

of their homes.

diverdownjt

(701 posts)
29. So why all the flyover's with airforce these past weeks?
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 02:02 PM
Oct 2021

He is saying that it will be peaceful only if you comply........force is imminent.

ancianita

(35,938 posts)
38. There are flyovers in response to the intel that our military has special ops doing military
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 03:49 PM
Oct 2021

training on Taiwan.

Original scoop has a paywall...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-troops-have-been-deployed-in-taiwan-for-at-least-a-year-11633614043

no paywall

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/575759-us-troops-secretly-training-forces-in-taiwan-for-past-year-report

U.S. forces have been secretly training Taiwan’s military forces in the country for at least a year amid concerns of Chinese aggression toward the self-ruled island, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

Roughly two dozen members of U.S. special operations and support troops are training small units of Taiwanese ground forces, while a contingent of the U.S. Marines is helping local maritime forces with small-boat training, U.S. officials told the Journal.


 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
30. It is a China and Taiwan issue.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 02:02 PM
Oct 2021

America needs to stay out of it - if there are problems we can support UN resolutions.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
36. I must disagree in spirit, and probably in action as well.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 03:12 PM
Oct 2021

The Chinese do NOT want a war with the US. They will push to see how far WE, and other countries, will go.

The UN on it's own is too cowardly to do anything.

Hekate

(90,562 posts)
53. Agreed. Taiwan only exists in the 21st century because they were a US satellite in the 20th...
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 07:09 AM
Oct 2021

We defended them during the Cold War, and I think we owe them protection now. Beyond that, ceding them to China would be a bad mistake — for our own future.



soryang

(3,299 posts)
45. Exactly
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:56 PM
Oct 2021

instead we are unnecessarily provoking China by increased military presence, shows of force, and public statements and diplomatic acts which in fact, contradict prior communiques by previous US presidents. It's the United States of Amnesia all over again.

American delusions about what terms they can dictate to China are delusional in the same sense as delusions about Korea and Vietnam before those wars in which millions died. It's up to Taiwan and China to work this out peacefully. All the macho tough talk is reminiscent of the racist gunboat diplomacy in the 19th and 20th Centuries that ultimately led to WW II. The US is habitually wrong about Asian issues.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
48. "UN resolutions"? What a joke
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 05:32 PM
Oct 2021

China has veto power over any resolution. And even if one passed, the UN is powerless to accomplish anything without the US.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
37. Sure thing, Xi. Because Taiwan is noticing how scrupulously China has adhered ...
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 03:17 PM
Oct 2021

to the promises they made regarding Hong Kong.

Martin68

(22,768 posts)
43. Pardon me while roll around on the floor laughing. After an enormous show of force, involving 38
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:21 PM
Oct 2021

attack jets, this comes off as the joke of a Mafia don in regard to a weak competitor who tied to muscle in on his "territory."

Ford_Prefect

(7,872 posts)
44. We've already had a taste of China's peaceful methodology in Hong Kong.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:11 PM
Oct 2021

The only kind of peace China wants involves a choice of silence or the grave.

Kid Berwyn

(14,803 posts)
50. A man of integrity. Not.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 10:18 PM
Oct 2021

Xi silenced his opponents by accusing them of corruption. Meanwhile, his own family acquired billions as he made himself emperor for life. Censored NYT out of China for writing about it. Example of strong leadership for Dim Donnie Drumpf.

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
54. Taiwan is worth going to war over
Tue Oct 12, 2021, 11:29 AM
Oct 2021

Taiwan has 63% of the world's semiconductor industry. If China took them over, they're basically taking the world economy over all at once. China would have absolute control over every industry in America that needs chips.

GB_RN

(2,334 posts)
55. This Situation Undoubtedly Plays Into Why...
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 11:58 AM
Oct 2021

Intel is becoming a “foundry” and bringing chip/processor production back to the US.

orangecrush

(19,430 posts)
56. Xi is the Chinese Trump
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:51 PM
Oct 2021


Fuck him, and the Chinese people better come up with a way of getting rid of this "president forever", unless they enjoy the idea of being incinerated en masse.

GB_RN

(2,334 posts)
59. I'd Say He's Their Version Of Putin
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 04:37 PM
Oct 2021

He’s more intelligent and competent than tRump. Not really fair to Xi to say he’s the “Chinese Trump”, even as I agree with your dislike of both of them.

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