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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 08:06 PM Oct 2021

House Capitol attack panel ready to urge prosecution of Trump aides, says Schiff

Source: The Guardian

The House select committee investigating the deadly assault on the US Capitol on 6 January is prepared to urge federal prosecution of former aides to Donald Trump who refuse to comply with subpoenas, a key panel member said.

Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, deputy chief of staff Dan Scavino, strategist Steve Bannon and Pentagon aide Kash Patel are defying subpoenas for documents and testimony, under instruction from the former president.

Amid fears that the panel will not take legal action to enforce its will, Adam Schiff, a member of the panel as well as chairman of the House intelligence committee, spoke to CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday.

The 6 January committee, he said, “wants to make sure that these witnesses come in and testify, and we are prepared to go forward and urge the justice department to criminally prosecute anyone who does not do their lawful duty”.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-capitol-attack-panel-ready-to-urge-prosecution-of-trump-aides-says-schiff/ar-AAPlpvi?li=BBnb7Kz

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House Capitol attack panel ready to urge prosecution of Trump aides, says Schiff (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
Lock them up...Lock them up. Funtatlaguy Oct 2021 #1
I hope so! bluestarone Oct 2021 #2
Should I hold my breath? JohnSJ Oct 2021 #3
Be "ready to urge" Effete Snob Oct 2021 #4
heh Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #9
Here's the plan: LiberalLovinLug Oct 2021 #42
No more talk and threats, It's long past time for action. Enter stage left Oct 2021 #5
Should we be planning a citizen's committee to procure the arrests? Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #6
How does that work? Ocelot II Oct 2021 #7
Citizens Arrest Committees Effete Snob Oct 2021 #30
I doubt the conspiracy against the United States will cooperate other than plead the 5th Amendment bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #8
Give Bannon immunity. He can't help running his mouth Walleye Oct 2021 #10
Just give him a bottle of vodka. Mr. Evil Oct 2021 #14
👍🥃 Walleye Oct 2021 #15
If I was Bannon's liver, I would take him to court for abuse. Clearheadsam Oct 2021 #22
Right! He doesn't deserve immunity. From ANYTHING. dchill Oct 2021 #24
So he could pull an Oliver North and take blame for everything?... n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #34
Bounties. Just like TX. Round 'em up. I'm joking unless they don't enforce subpoenas. Then warrants Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #11
"Bounties," you say? Botany Oct 2021 #41
How would they handle thugs? Marthe48 Oct 2021 #12
vote Criminal Contempt bottomofthehill Oct 2021 #13
Seems to me I remember mobsters And the like being hauled before congressional committees Walleye Oct 2021 #16
Yes Marthe48 Oct 2021 #18
Two old-fashion Republican politicians on the Committee. Justice matters. Oct 2021 #35
talk is cheap -------------- do it & get it done ! they think it won't happen ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #17
Avowed Leninist Steve Bannon, Chief Strategist to Trump? czarjak Oct 2021 #19
Attack Panel! maxsolomon Oct 2021 #20
I think they have to 'fail to appear' stillcool Oct 2021 #21
they already have failed to produce the documents. drray23 Oct 2021 #29
Republicans don't respond to subpoenas Tacan Oct 2021 #23
"urge?" - what does that mean? mrsadm Oct 2021 #25
It means you send them a suggestive letter. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #28
But only if you have reached full "ready to urge" levels Effete Snob Oct 2021 #31
More seriously the House must vote a contempt and the matter gets "referred" to the DOJ... PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #32
Simple - the committee lacks the power to prosecute FBaggins Oct 2021 #37
An actual president... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #26
Well........................... do it ! HUAJIAO Oct 2021 #27
I Hope They Would Also Pursue Obstruction Of Justice DallasNE Oct 2021 #33
Republicans who betrayed America Champp Oct 2021 #36
I will believe it when I see it. Javaman Oct 2021 #38
If they don't follow through with this we are doomed to have it happen again, only worse SouthernDem4ever Oct 2021 #39
Do it, damn it! Trust_Reality Oct 2021 #40

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
2. I hope so!
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 08:12 PM
Oct 2021

I have full faith in this panel! If they do not succeed, it will NOT be their fault. (just my personal view)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
42. Here's the plan:
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 08:15 PM
Oct 2021

1. get ready to urge

2. start to urge

3. Ramp up urging

4. Strongly worded letter

5. A new letter with even stronger words.

6. Complain to the news media

7. Threaten with enforcement

8. Second warning on enforcement

9. Third warning

10. Oh...not enough time now before the mid terms. We'll for sure for sure make them comply once we win more seats.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
30. Citizens Arrest Committees
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:59 PM
Oct 2021

...typically involve several pickup trucks, a random assortment of firearms and enough beer to go around.

bucolic_frolic

(43,133 posts)
8. I doubt the conspiracy against the United States will cooperate other than plead the 5th Amendment
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 08:37 PM
Oct 2021

It is irrational to expect them to become patriotic for the good of the country. My guess is they probably still want to overthrow the US government in favor of their own set of stooges.

Marthe48

(16,936 posts)
12. How would they handle thugs?
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 08:55 PM
Oct 2021

Like punks who break laws, but aren't politicians, or political hacks. Treat them like they would regular punks, and if they defy subpoenas, destroy evidence and so on, arrest them for the laws they are breaking and lock them up until they comply.

Sick of punks running and ruining my country.

Walleye

(31,009 posts)
16. Seems to me I remember mobsters And the like being hauled before congressional committees
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:26 PM
Oct 2021

These are basically just PR guys. We certainly should be able to compel them to testify. Scavino was just a Twitter man

Marthe48

(16,936 posts)
18. Yes
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:44 PM
Oct 2021

Whatever action the panel takes, the members will be accused of going after political enemies. In a different time, people like bannon, et all would be described as our country's enemies

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
35. Two old-fashion Republican politicians on the Committee.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 03:10 AM
Oct 2021
So it is not just Democrats who want to get all the facts about the insurrection.

I want a subpoena to the former guy before the end of the hearings...

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
20. Attack Panel!
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:59 PM
Oct 2021

I love it. Great branding.

Whatever legal procedure you've got lined up, Schiff, start now. 2024 is staring me in the face.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
21. I think they have to 'fail to appear'
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:04 PM
Oct 2021

before they get locked up. Silly of me to think laws matter, but I don't think saying something equates to doing it.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
29. they already have failed to produce the documents.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:50 PM
Oct 2021

These subpoenas were not just for appearing later this month, they were also for providing documents for which the deadline has passed.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
32. More seriously the House must vote a contempt and the matter gets "referred" to the DOJ...
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 11:59 PM
Oct 2021
Following the refusal of a witness to produce documents or to testify, the committee is entitled to report a resolution of contempt to its parent chamber. A Committee may also cite a person for contempt but not immediately report the resolution to the floor. In the case of subcommittees, they report the resolution of contempt to the full Committee, which then has the option of rejecting it, accepting it but not reporting it to the floor, or accepting it and reporting it to the floor of the chamber for action. On the floor of the House or the Senate, the reported resolution is considered privileged and, if the resolution of contempt is passed...

Following a contempt citation, the presiding officer of the chamber is instructed to refer the matter to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia; according to the law it is the duty of the U.S. Attorney to refer the matter to a grand jury for action.


(From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress )

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
37. Simple - the committee lacks the power to prosecute
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 08:52 AM
Oct 2021

So they would be recommending that the full House vote on contempt or asking the DOJ to consider asking a court to enforce the subpoena.

SergeStorms

(19,195 posts)
26. An actual president...
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:29 PM
Oct 2021

would tell his subordinates to protect themselves from legal jeopardy and testify. That's what an actual president would do.

Asshole45 says, " protect ME, PROTECT ME! Sacrifice yourselves and protect me!"

But of course, that's what any honest, guilt free president would do, right? Everyone has to fall on their swords to protect the most criminal "president" to ever be elected by Vladimir Putin.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
33. I Hope They Would Also Pursue Obstruction Of Justice
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 01:03 AM
Oct 2021

Against TFG at the same time. "Under instruction from the former president" looks pretty cut and dried to me.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
38. I will believe it when I see it.
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 09:54 AM
Oct 2021

we've been down this road before about issuing subpoenas and them being ignored with no repercussions.

this is how you jade a public into thinking the government is ineffective.

threats, harsh words mean nothing to me.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
39. If they don't follow through with this we are doomed to have it happen again, only worse
Mon Oct 11, 2021, 11:19 AM
Oct 2021

Quit the sandbagging and prosecute according to the law and don't wait for them to screw around.

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